At least in terms of the student services fee and other things the kids are paying for, I fixed your sentence for you. The U isn't "making money" they are "taking money".
On a technicality, they are making it. No one is forcing anyone to go to the U. They’re then spending that money on athletes but the service the U is offering, people are willing to pay. We’ll see if it affects enrollment or not, but I doubt it in any real capacity that won’t be within the standard error
Strange semantics, and by your own logic this is incorrect. The product (a degree), and the service (education) is provided to those who willingly enroll and will pay either via massive loans, subsidies, or straight cold cash.
So you're living life with the toothless...
Yes but it isn't like you have to write the U a check for the $200. Its a line item on an already ridiculous bill that I bet you never read while you were there. (I only did when their clerical error screwed up my financing and forced me out of school) $200 won't even register as a noticeable change when they pay the bill.
And you knew every line item in the bill you paid if the bill went up a bit?
Its not condoning...I dont think any of us like this in any way. Its just not the problem people are making it out to be either. Where is all this discussion for the housing costs at the U for students? How about the price of books? ($200 didn't cover that in 1998) There are a much bigger fiscal issues than a fee no one would even notice if they weren't told about it.
So college education and athletics is not a product or service people are paying for? Ooof you might want to reword that.
I was referring to the $200 fee. Obviously people are willing to pay for an education or to go to games.
Example: (and this is just for illustration, as I am a generous tipper)
oh i don't disagree you that it is highly debatable that each student is "getting $200 worth of goods" from the new fee, the same that its debatable that you're getting ~16k "worth" of education each year as a resident and is a massive part of the disconnect in rising costs of education versus return in this country.Example: (and this is just for illustration, as I am a generous tipper)
That's kinda like saying when a restaurant automatically adds in a gratuity that the wait staff "made" that money. The person eating obviously wanted to pay for the food, so the profit of selling that food made the restaurant money. And if the tip was voluntary, then the wait staff would have made that tip money.
I guess we see slight differences in the technicality. I'm not responding to just argue back, as you write good posts. I just didn't think I explained my thought well enough in my original post. But I can also agree with what you're saying, that any revenue coming in counts as earned money.
Did Tony Soprano "earn" the money in those envelopes his underlings would bring him? Or was it extortion?
I just assumed Yah-e had it covered.
I dont think $200 will change anyone's mind...again I doubt anyone even remembers or notices. Its a drop in the bucket when it comes to tuition expenses and after a couple years everyone will memory hole it. (until they raise it and we get to do it all again!)
So much about this post is incorrect I am literally unable to process...
Give it a try.
Valued at more than $500?!?!?! No way!!!!
Yes, St. Thomas is a model exemplar in all things. After all, they have an unbelievable endowment of ~$700M and raised ~$125M last year. Meanwhile, our comparatively paltry numbers are a ~$6B endowment (4th largest in the Big Ten) and we only raised the meager sum of $392M last year. We really have a lot to learn from them.
Don't forget all the hockey arenas sitting empty in spite of them all being used from 6am to midnight.
Not the right place or time. We have enough to discuss here with the fees.
$500 million. A big word to miss!
It’s partially what prompted reply. Having spent 20 days between Tennessee and Georgia, I was shocked how wrong I have been. (Call it Mn bias). Traffic in Atlanta is brutal brutal but their ability to support what they they have for public school facilities with Georgia Tech, Georgia, Georgia State and Kennesaw State so close to each other amazed me. Especially their athletic facilities. Lake Point area 23 miles north near Marietta, amazing youth facilities like we do not have.
And the U is out of money, hasn’t paid for its most recent athletic facilities. Il’l never be a fan of STU but they have the Anderson’s a plan are using athletics to get them there as opposed to viewing athletics as a necessary evil.
I always tried to convince a girlfriend to get a waitress job. Or bartender. Anything that could get me free food/drinks.