Who should be in the 12 team playoffs?

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- Notre Dame should have been in over Bama. ND is one of the best teams in the country right now and they were shafted.
- Bama getting in is entirely due to the incestuous ESPN-SEC relationship going back to late 2000's when they signed their TV deal.
- Auto qualifiers for JMU and Tulane is a waste of everyone's time. I'm happy for smaller programs to get the chance, but Tulane already lost to Ole Miss 45-10 this year.
- If conference championships still matter (they don't) then there needs to be a change in who qualifies to play in them. Miami didn't play in the ACC champ game and the two teams that did aren't in the CFBP.
- Kind of bummed that Indiana doesn't get to play a home game. Wish they gave the top 4 seeds home games as well, only seems fair.
 

BigGopher69 said:
It's not about entertainment, it's about getting the best teams in the playoffs. If you think James madison is a better team then notre dame, texas, etc your crazy. The playoffs arent a charity case. Now if we expand the playoffs sure I am in, but in a 12 team playoff there is no way 2 non p4 teams should be in
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Agreed 100%. I said it above but the fact that we had an entire CFB season and one of the playoff games is a rematch of Ole Miss vs Tulane (was 45-10 before) at home, is absurd. Complete waste of everyone's time and we might as well just given Ole Miss a bye week.
 

LongLiveMilesTarver said:
And again, SEC gets three home games!!!
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It will be very interesting if the two teams that play in the title game are two who've had first round home games (similar to OSU/ND last year, also Texas had a home game last year too) I know PJ hates momentum but there's a reason other coaches love it. It works.

Also, I think everything TAMU is annoying but how are you going to give them a 12pm Kyle Field kickoff time against Miami? and Give Ole Miss a home game? TAMU vs Miami is a far better game.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
My argument:

They lost to 5-7 FSU and were destroyed yesterday.

Notre Dame lost two close games by a few points to two playoff teams in the first two weeks of the season.
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This is it. Notre Dame lost a close game in August to a playoff team. They then looked like one of the best teams in the country the rest of the year. Bama lost to a terrible FSU team, and while they had a good run against good teams, they also had close games against bad teams and then got spanked in their last game.

It all comes back to the committee and ESPN smugly circlejerking about "SEC depth" so they can hype up SEC team's schedules at the end of the year.
 

Some Day...Maybe said:
Ridiculous. You can’t penalize them for playing in their title game. Look at Notre Dame’s schedule, they have 2 good wins, and only played 4 good teams.
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How many FBS teams did each play? Given that, there should not be a non-counting game for Bama when they get whooped.
 


I would take Tulane and JMU out and put ND and then maybe Vandy, Texas, or BYU...
 

GophEnEspaña said:
- Notre Dame should have been in over Bama. ND is one of the best teams in the country right now and they were shafted.
- Bama getting in is entirely due to the incestuous ESPN-SEC relationship going back to late 2000's when they signed their TV deal.
- Auto qualifiers for JMU and Tulane is a waste of everyone's time. I'm happy for smaller programs to get the chance, but Tulane already lost to Ole Miss 45-10 this year.
- If conference championships still matter (they don't) then there needs to be a change in who qualifies to play in them. Miami didn't play in the ACC champ game and the two teams that did aren't in the CFBP.
- Kind of bummed that Indiana doesn't get to play a home game. Wish they gave the top 4 seeds home games as well, only seems fair.
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The top five ranked conference champions got auto bids. That included JMU and Tulane. I love how this is so upsetting to people.
 

CycloneGopher said:
ESPN shills saying no group of 5 team should make it in the future is dumb. I agree having both JMU and Tulane in over some other teams is a little much. But a spot should be reserved each year for a team from one of those leagues. The way the game is organized right now and the bias in rankings would make it nearly impossible for them to make it in the future.
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It is but that's more on the ACC and to a lesser degree the American conference for their tie breakers. Putting five loss Duke (credit to them for winning the game) in the ACC title game instead of Miami opened the door for that to happen. In the American I will maintain Navy didn't have their starting QB in their two losses, I think they would have given Tulane a better game than North Texas. I also would have flipped A&M and Ole Miss and Bama and Miami to avoid rematches
 

The blame for Tulane and JMU displacing some good Power 4 teams falls on the weakness in the ACC (and also the Big 12 to a lesser extent). The conference championship game Virginia vs Duke was a joke in the context of the "best" teams. There really isn't a Power 4 when it comes to elite teams. It's really a Power 2 AA, Power 2 A, and G5.

On a side note, BYU had more of a claim on the CFP than Notre Dame IMO. The CFP told BYU to get into a conference if they wanted to get placed, so they did, and went undefeated to teams not named Texas Tech.

Notre Dame took their $20 million in CFP money last year and didn't need to share it with anyone unlike every other team. I think the SEC and BG10 people are telling them to get into a conference or go undefeated to make it. Notre Dame's schedule will get easier in the future as good Power 4 opponents pull away, but it will harder for them to make the CFP.
 



Consistently inconsistent. From the committee and just in generally with people making arguments.

- I'm convinced Miami is only in to make sure the ACC has one team represented. If Virginia wins Saturday, I don't think they make the switch. That's the only logical reason to switch two teams that didn't play this past weekend. It's fine to argue Miami should have been ahead of ND to begin with but they weren't, switching now is ridiculous.
- Everyone talks about the Alabama win over Georgia earlier this year, but ignores that they have the worst loss by far of anyone in the discussion of the last few spots. Bad losses should mean as much as good wins.
- Several years ago Florida St was left out due to an injury. If they're willing to do that, then I think how a team is playing should factor into the decision as well. Alabama has lost 2 of last 3 against P4 and barely beat a bad Auburn team.
- In the last 3 years, only one team has lost their conference championship and not dropped in rankings. TCU did the same in 2022 but that was after losing in OT in their conference championship. The argument that a team shouldn't be punished for losing a conference championship is ridiculous IMO. If you get beaten badly, it should. It has for almost everyone else (including BYU this year). Inconsistent. At this point they should get rid of the conference championship games as they're pretty meaningless. In the 4 team playoffs, Georgia and Alabama likely were playing for a spot in the playoffs. Now it didn't affect either team in any way. Just play 13 regular season games.
- I see people making the argument that teams shouldn't be punished for losing in the conference championship while also saying it's not fair that ND doesn't have to play in one. Both can't be true.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Consistently inconsistent. From the committee and just in generally with people making arguments.

- I'm convinced Miami is only in to make sure the ACC has one team represented. If Virginia wins Saturday, I don't think they make the switch. That's the only logical reason to switch two teams that didn't play this past weekend. It's fine to argue Miami should have been ahead of ND to begin with but they weren't, switching now is ridiculous.
- Everyone talks about the Alabama win over Georgia earlier this year, but ignores that they have the worst loss by far of anyone in the discussion of the last few spots. Bad losses should mean as much as good wins.
- Several years ago Florida St was left out due to an injury. If they're willing to do that, then I think how a team is playing should factor into the decision as well. Alabama has lost 2 of last 3 against P4 and barely beat a bad Auburn team.
- In the last 3 years, only one team has lost their conference championship and not dropped in rankings. TCU did the same in 2022 but that was after losing in OT in their conference championship. The argument that a team shouldn't be punished for losing a conference championship is ridiculous IMO. If you get beaten badly, it should. It has for almost everyone else (including BYU this year). Inconsistent. At this point they should get rid of the conference championship games as they're pretty meaningless. In the 4 team playoffs, Georgia and Alabama likely were playing for a spot in the playoffs. Now it didn't affect either team in any way. Just play 13 regular season games.
- I see people making the argument that teams shouldn't be punished for losing in the conference championship while also saying it's not fair that ND doesn't have to play in one. Both can't be true.
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And IMO, Bama had a couple of games given to them by the zebras.
 

When Notre Dame shares their TV revenue then maybe I'll care? Was it fair this time? Maybe not. Did they care when they had an advantage? Probably not.

Summary: 🥱🤷‍♀️
 




MaxyJR1 said:
24 team playoff elimination of conference championship games.

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The NFL owners have tried to get to 18 regular season games up from 16. The players union is not as enthusiastic. Risk of injuries, so on.

Without leverage the college players are at the mercy of people like Tony Pettiti and his facilitators. He is looking for larger contracts, revenue. Do the players want this? Do fans? Playing up to 4 extra games on an unpaid status may set off some legal machinations, I’d think.
 

gopherbadgerman said:
I would take Tulane and JMU out and put ND and then maybe Vandy, Texas, or BYU...
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You can't take both out based on the current rules of the top 5 Conference Champs getting it.

Indiana, Georgia, TT, Duke, Tulane is who I would put in. It's absurd to not put a P4 Conference Champ in the field for a second G5. (Expansion will fix it.)

tOSU
Oregon
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Miami
Notre Dame

Many of these teams have warts just as the others in contention.

24 if the sweet number for getting teams in. Yes, it borders on 8-4 teams getting in. 2022 had four 8-4 teams ranked in the CFP top 25.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
You can't take both out based on the current rules of the top 5 Conference Champs getting it.

Indiana, Georgia, TT, Duke, Tulane is who I would put in. It's absurd to not put a P4 Conference Champ in the field for a second G5. (Expansion will fix it.)

tOSU
Oregon
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Miami
Notre Dame

Many of these teams have warts just as the others in contention.

24 if the sweet number for getting teams in. Yes, it borders on 8-4 teams getting in. 2022 had four 8-4 teams ranked in the CFP top 25.
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I get that, I was just going on the best 12 teams overall.
 

25% of the CFP Field will be playing with Interim and/or Lame Duck Coaches. One of them (Ole Miss vs Tulane) will be going to the Sugar Bowl to take on Georgia.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
You can't take both out based on the current rules of the top 5 Conference Champs getting it.

Indiana, Georgia, TT, Duke, Tulane is who I would put in. It's absurd to not put a P4 Conference Champ in the field for a second G5. (Expansion will fix it.)

tOSU
Oregon
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Miami
Notre Dame

Many of these teams have warts just as the others in contention.

24 if the sweet number for getting teams in. Yes, it borders on 8-4 teams getting in. 2022 had four 8-4 teams ranked in the CFP top 25.
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We also only had 9 conferences this year, which is weird.
 

GophEnEspaña said:
Agreed 100%. I said it above but the fact that we had an entire CFB season and one of the playoff games is a rematch of Ole Miss vs Tulane (was 45-10 before) at home, is absurd. Complete waste of everyone's time and we might as well just given Ole Miss a bye week.
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Alabama-OU is also a rematch, and it's utterly ridiculous OU needs to beat them again after they already did it IN Tuscaloosa.
 

Am I the only one that thinks if Ole Miss is going to have a bunch of players opt out and have a mass exodus that they shouldn't be in the playoff?
 

DrunkDons said:
Am I the only one that thinks if Ole Miss is going to have a bunch of players opt out and have a mass exodus that they shouldn't be in the playoff?
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I hadn't heard anything about Ole Miss players opting out. Unlike the other schools, the rumor was that they weren't really all that upset about Kiffin leaving and not coaching the playoff game.
 

disco said:
We also only had 9 conferences this year, which is weird.
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Next year two conference with 8 and 9 teams

Pac12: Washington State, Oregon State, San Diego State, Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, Utah State, and Texas State.

Mountain West: Air Force, Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico, San Jose State, UNLV, UTEP, Northern Illinois and Wyoming.

For 2026
B1G: 18
SEC: 16
ACC: 17
B12: 16
American: 14
MAC: 12
SunBelt: 14 Adding Louisiana Tech
Conference USA: 11
Mountain West: 9
PAC 12: 8
 

disco said:
I hadn't heard anything about Ole Miss players opting out. Unlike the other schools, the rumor was that they weren't really all that upset about Kiffin leaving and not coaching the playoff game.
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Go tell that to the rioters in Oxford - they looked pretty upset if you ask me. The players on the other hand is a different story for sure.
 

Not having a power 4 conference champion in the playoff sets a dangerous precedent and devalues the hell out of conference championship games. Duke isn't great - but they did what they needed to do. Slap in the face to the ACC if you ask me.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
24 if the sweet number for getting teams in. Yes, it borders on 8-4 teams getting in. 2022 had four 8-4 teams ranked in the CFP top 25.
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The week 14 2022 CFP rankings, and I'm sure that the viewers here will be shocked at the names ranked with 4 losses:

College Football Playoff - Rankings

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17 - LSU 8-4
19 - South Car 8-4
20 - Texas 8-4
21 - ND 8-4
22 - Miss St 8-4
23 - NC St 8-4
 

DrunkDons said:
Not having a power 4 conference champion in the playoff sets a dangerous precedent and devalues the hell out of conference championship games. Duke isn't great - but they did what they needed to do. Slap in the face to the ACC if you ask me.
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Maybe a little slap, but the AAC did mess this up by only playing 8 conference games which led to a 5 way tie for second place. If they play 9 conference games, there most likely would have been fewer ties and a better chance Miami gets into the conference championship game.

Then the scenario could have been if Miami wins, they count as one of the conference champions, leaving a slot for Notre Dame.
 





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