I don't consider Hastings non-metro. They're the county seat of Dakota County and they played in the St. Paul Suburban conference for years.
Agreed. Hastings is the last what I would call non-big school to win the largest class, in 2000 or 2001. Obviously before 6A was created.
Are you fully on board? QB pays better, you keep more teeth. It worked out for Patrick though Joe eschewed it.
I get what you are saying, but you should include Lakeville North and Lakeville South have combined for multiple titles in the last 10 years. I think North is the 26th largest and South is the 29th largest.
Pretty good argument to seed at the section championship games or earlier (going to a 32 team playoff) like a lot of other states do. And again its not an argument that we don't get the right champion, but an argument for more great games along the path to get there. Teams can get hot after a weird game that got away from them or like in Moorhead's case the injuries that they had to deal with. If they were in a lower class and had to get through that crazy last part of the season 6A doesn't deal with are they in the same position do to less rest and the injuries they were already dealing with? Maybe, maybe not8-4 Edina vs. 8-4 Moorhead for the title....the game everyone predicted
Overall quality of the semi final games was really very good. A couple blowouts but you'll always have some of those. However they choose to do it will never please everyone but if they are getting a lot of good competitive games I'd say it's pretty unlikely to change.
I just say 41 donut to people that expect semi-finals or finals to all be good games.
Other states that I have friends that coach in use a system similar to our sections but use those in this fashion
The semi final round this past weekend was overall awesome. The week before was not the same and generally isn't. There will always be blowouts along the way because style make fights and sometimes teams just don't match up even though they are both quality teams
There was a time I was made fun of for saying not much separated teams this year.8-4 Edina vs. 8-4 Moorhead for the title....the game everyone predicted
Health and the fact that you are dealing with high school kids who can be very unpredictable from week to week.
Moorhead won the regular season matchup 51-44 in mid October. Will be interesting to see if we get a similar shootout in the title game. Neither of these teams seem overly stout on the defensive end but can both clearly put up points in bunches.
Combined 39 points in the 4th quarter in that game.
Or even something simple like when you're down to two in a section, have them cross play against the top two of another section from a similar part of the state. So say #1 from Section 7 vs. #2 from Section 8, and #2 from Section 7 vs. #1 from Section 8. Then seed the final 8 for state. Then you still likely get teams represented from different parts of the state.
In 6a? Never
Maybe
Should it though? Or should it literally be the best teams in the tournament, regardless of geographical location in the state?
Nobody watches
I hear you on the athletic enrollment number, but both Lakeville schools check all the other boxes that show they belong in the largest class. No question about it.
Because having entertaining games should drive the sport up, drive up competion, participation. Having continuous blowouts during the state tournament keeps casuals away, keeps teams from participation if the incoming freshamn see the best team a town has ever had get smoked by 40 in the quarters. Shows how far they are away...
Methinks you vastly over estimate the interest in high school football in this state.
It’s the only box the MSHSL wants to acknowledge. It’s not actually the most important one.
I probably am. But that could have to do with how MN runs its post season. Where football is more popular, they dont run things even remotely close to how it is done here.