Shedeur Sanders’ Slide in NFL Draft Cost Him $44 Million

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mcrow47 said:
Yes, but very mediocre for his career and I'm saying that's his ceiling.
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Wrong. Maybe I’ll lampoon your original post later this week if I’m bored!!!
You wanna bust my chops, no worries friend, but you can always expect the same in return!!!!


Your specific comp was from your post #133 below!!!!

“Maybe Andy Dalton in his prime sort of level.”
mcrow47 said:
mcrow47 said:
The thing about him is he has "enough" talent to play in the NFL but he tries to make plays like he's Patrick Mahomes. In college, you're going to get away with that a lot more than in the NFL. I think he's likely to be a turnover machine in the NFL. If he focused more on making the right play rather than trying to make the flashy play he might be a serviceable QB. I do not see him being a top half of the league QB. I think ceiling is bottom half starter or a good backup. Maybe Andy Dalton in his prime sort of level.
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mcrow47 said:
I wasn't comparing anyone other than saying they all had character issues. Not the same issues but they all had character issues. And Jamarcus Russell and Manziel are similar in character but at least Russell actually had the raw talent so that was more understandable why someone might take a chance on him.

I don't think all teams see character issues the same but they are definitely not tolerated the same anymore for QBs. If Sanders was a WR,DB, DE..ect nobody cares about his attitude. I think there was a time when QBs could get away with it, like Brett Favre for example probably would have been very scrutinized today if he were going to be drafted. I think it's because offenses have become so much more complicated and defenses too. You can't just go out there and dominate on raw ability and confidence anymore.
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Agree on him being a qb. You are the face of the team and franchise. The owner knows that for better or worse and it blacklisted Shedeur for a lot of owners and/or GMs.

Whether QBs like it or not, it’s probably the only position like that, though I’d imagine an OL who celebrated every pancake by flashing their fancy watch would probably also raise concerns. It’s a clashing with the image people have in their head.

He’s absolutely better talent wise than a 5th round pick though
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
I think there is a tendency to look at all character issues the same.

Baker Mayfield was cocky but the guy has always loved football and his teammateJams have always loved him. Manziel never gave a sh!t about football. Manziel is closer to Jamarcus Russell than he is Baker.

I don't bring this up to be nitpicky on your comparison, I bring it up because Shadeur's character issues remind me much more of Baker than they do Manziel. I have no reason to believe Sanders doesn't love football.
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Obviously a lot of the stuff we hear is hearsay, but Shedeur’s apparent lack of preparation for interviews and apparent aversion to film study is very Manziel-like. Also at least from my understanding Baker has always been a team-first guy who owns up to his screw ups. Sanders has thrown his teammates under the bus in interviews. I’m sure he loves football, but he also really loves himself.
 

Gophers1992 said:
Obviously a lot of the stuff we hear is hearsay, but Shedeur’s apparent lack of preparation for interviews and apparent aversion to film study is very Manziel-like. Also at least from my understanding Baker has always been a team-first guy who owns up to his screw ups. Sanders has thrown his teammates under the bus in interviews. I’m sure he loves football, but he also really loves himself.
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Reminds me of the story about how Gilbert Arenas got picked so low:


Some interviews can ... just be that bad.
 




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