Be carefull Vanek26, You are talking
about one of Bonin21 favorite teams.
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about one of Bonin21 favorite teams.
Not to mention the 16-17 BU team that had 5 1st rounders ( including a BIG goalie), and 4 2nd rounders that did not make it to the Frozen Four.
I know, I've never seen a person (Bonin21) who says he is a Gopher fan but gushes about other teams as much as he does. When he does talk about the Gophers, it's ALL negative.
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Lmao these two are adding top 10 and first overall picks and this is the reasoning you come back with on why the Gophers will look like a single A team against them and not their recruiting prowess as the Gopher recruiting fell off a cliff almost two years ago now
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Yes I’m more concerned about the team we didn’t beat last year returning almost everyone including a hobey finalist and the best goalie in the country more so than Ryker Lee and Cayden Lindstrom. The freshmen will do some good things. The same as the umpteen random 1st rounders we brought in in the past did. MSU will go where Howard, stramel, and Augustine carry them.
PSU will go where their returning Hobey candidate, stud goalie, depth and mid round older guys with a year of seasoning take them. Jackson Smith will be good and Misa might occasionally do some fun stuff as a mid round pick, but I’ll go with Gadowsky, Fink, Cerrato, Laubach, Dimarsico and Sergeev are the far more worrisome parts of that roster
Saying first rounders are what you should be scared of is like you thought und would be good because of Boisvert but their team was ass. Same as Casey mittelstadt couldn’t carry a mediocre roster. First rounders can only help take a good team over the top. Not to mention we’ve gotten to watch so so many 1st rounders come in and need to acclimate, especially defensemen (see Rinzel, Hensler, Emery for recent ones off top of head).
So yeah, I’m worried about the talent on those rosters that was already there, is experienced, a year older and stronger, with one team that was better than us last year all coming back and one that was even with us, not that they added a couple first round picks. One was #1 or 2 all year and the other made the FF. Would be like having us bringing Cooley back in 23-24 but Moore and Rinzel were the real ones you that you were saying we should worry about
If it is McKenna or this years Misa, that’s a different supposition as those are viewed as generational type players (McKenna moreso than Misa). They haven’t committed yet so why would I be hypothetically looking at a roster projection and saying they’ll out skate us?
Edit: yes I’m aware McKenna visited PSU and msu and that those are only visits scheduled so far. We’ll see. There are going to be 3-4 grossly “talented” teams in terms of draft picks. The last multiple of those also haven’t won it all, MN included
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Jack Pridham no longer committed to BU (OHLer, 3rd round pick in 2024) as sounds like going to sign with the Blackhawks and stay in the OHL another season
BU's recruiting is falling apart
Not gonna happen.
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Ritchie seems to confirm BU. Is also why I would say wait and see on McKenna as they’re friends and Ritchie’s dad is McKennas agent.
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per the story
“Penn’s operation is one of the best in college hockey,” one NCAA source said. “They’ve built an environment that's very competitive financially, but also a highly attractive experience for the student-athlete.”
yeah, he's going there for money. that's the first one that's an immediate "game changer" comparatively imo (similar to Fantilli, Celebrini, etc) and he could be akin to McDavid playing college hockey. definitely moves PSU ahead of BU/MSU for the title favorites for next year imo and is the joy of Pegula being very ok with throwing a ton of money at kids to buy a title somewhere when he knows he's an ass owner
On that note, this is 1000% somewhere the NHL and NCAA needs to put in legislation, as there is nothing in place right now against him steering any and all kids he drafts to PSU at this point and paying them outside the NHL bounds for contracts
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Motzko should have not choked away 2023. Gophers are toast now going forward.
I wouldn't be surprised if Misa goes there too now with his brother and McKenna and Smith.
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The expectation is Martone is going to go pro. Schloss saying he'd be someone they'd look at, well no crap. Everyone would be happy to add Martone. I expect he's wearing a Flyers jersey or he signs his ELC and goes back to Canada and comes in end of next year
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Misa is going to be playing the NHL this fall and that is what he wants to do. He's basically been the best player in every Sharks report from their dev camp. He'll make the roster.
And yet, the Gophers never get even mentioned while UND already added two first rounders out of Canada and therefore has way more legitimacy in getting Martone.
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sure? The gophers were mentioned for Lakovic, McKenna, and Misa all at separate times. Schloss lists him as one of the 3 uncommitted RWs from the draft. The same as they're all getting jazzed about maybe Carter Bear is going there because of family ties when I'd expect he goes pro after next year.
We all know getting them is all that matters and so far they've landed 2 guys who play for a guy who won a Natty at UND. Would be like saying we're going to recruit 5 stars well there because we got Wood. Bob, or whoever is the next Gopher coach as if he doesn't recruit better this coming cycle he will not remain here, will need to figure out the balance.
It will forever remain pulling MN kids at a high clip and then addressing how you're filling gaps with 5star talent. Bob has recruited Cooley and Knies as high profile out of staters and has gotten guys in the portal (I know you love to bang the drum of well they recruited themselves; idk how they end up here as long as they do) who were highly sought after. If he doesn't do better this fall and the team struggles on the ice, I'd envision his leash to keep doing this and with the program is going to be pretty short.
Problem is our pipeline is ass for coaches. Would hope if we go the route of replacing Bob, we do the smart thing that UND did and also hire someone as a GM. We have the money and resources to do so and it would go a damn long way to hire an alum or just someone established somewhere, preferably a Canadian, NTDP, or National team connection, though it doesn't super matter, to take that role particularly given Bob is older.
That's a lot of writing to say the main point. The U is toast because there is no money to compete with the big money schools. Even with Motzko out.
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there is and we all well know there is. If hockey tanks here, unless Fleck starts winning titles in football, Coyle's not going to have a job.
The new alumni NIL group will be interesting. We may not have Pegula money, but it isn't like our ath dept is broke and sure as hell compared to the rest of the country in terms of who cares about hockey, we have a very large budget.
Athletic donations compared to the rest of the Big Ten have been ass for decades.
I wouldn't be surprised if rich St Thomas alumni make their hockey donation base competitive with the Gophers. Or UST closer to the Gophers than the Gophers to MSU/PSU.
Still waiting for you to reply on what the NIL money is at Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State compared to Minnesota.
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we're much less than OSU, PSU and Michigan yes (see a theme here with football?). We'll see what happens with the new alumni group coming out and starting a group focused on hockey. You don't need millions like in football given the roster size is small and the market is less and you're competing with pro contracts that are capped.
UST made the national tournament 7 times since 2000 playing in the MIAC. They're not going to have a hockey rabid fanbase. I think if they're going to sell out somewhere, it's going to be MBB as you can see the success of something like GCU being easily translatable and the money is so much more potent. Maybe I've missed someone who's a big hockey backer there along the way who wants to Pegula it but I doubt it as they could've been doing this already
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Who cares about reidler lol? He was mediocre in Omaha last year. Their team needs average goaltending and that’s about it. Then we get to see what happens when it matters. He 0% is going to impact their title odds to anyone outside of you. You like because he’s big and drafted, bro because you scouted di pasquo and reidler and decided.
On your assessment of the lines for pp1, probably not though maybe start of year. That team is full of scorers and Gadowsky is a great defensive pick mover as will be smith. Would envision it’s one or other and cerrato or a net front guy is out there. I understand you like names, but you have better hockey sense than this. Someone has to stand in front of the net or they’ll look like the gopher pp just dinking around the edges and that’s not how they’ve run their pp
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As an aside on McKenna, kind of fucked up that a random guy totally ruined committing for McKenna. Nothing out of mckennas camp and it’s on sportsnet in canada now already running with it.
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And speaking of Omaha, they went hyper Usports portal this year. Basically Canadian college hockey all star team on their transfer portal guys. Much older comparatively. Will be interesting to see how they do as well
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Rumored price tag for McKenna was 700k. Absolute insanity and I guess that makes perfect sense why PSU then as he's basically collecting a rookie ELC deal prior to even being eligible.
People not believing the numbers we knew about for other high end players being 250K ish months ago