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MaxyJR1 said:
Supposedly a fifth of eligibility will get approved this summer. Wonder if there is a group looking to challenge that they should get a 5th year if this was their 4th year.
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And next summer a sixth year. But that's it. We swear. We're still in charge here - The NCAA.
 

A hardship waiver (that's the term in the NCAA rule book) gives you an extra season of participation and an extra calendar year on your clock to use it.

While he technical doesn't meet the criteria laid out for the medical qualifier sub-section of that, you can always appeal and ask for a waiver anyway. Wild guess that is what he is doing.
 


mkAz said:
Interesting

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This is nuts.

If they are giving it to him, they will likely give it to others. The NCAA clearly doesn’t believe in itself and its role of maintaining some standards and competitive balance if they are too afraid to even defend duration of eligibility.

I’m signing on to the mass freshman lawsuit depriving them of making a living based on age discrimination.
 


Holy Man said:
This is nuts.

If they are giving it to him, they will likely give it to others. The NCAA clearly doesn’t believe in itself and its role of maintaining some standards and competitive balance if they are too afraid to even defend duration of eligibility.

I’m signing on to the mass freshman lawsuit depriving them of making a living based on age discrimination.
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Only thing worse than the transfer portal is April fools day.
 

mkAz said:
Interesting

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The crazy part is that this is almost certainly an April Fools joke.....but the world of college basketball is so messed up at this point that it could be real and it wouldn't be that shocking.

Dude has played 5 full seasons....doesn't seem like in any world he should be able to get another one. But would any of us truly be surprised if it was real?
 

Holy Man said:
This is nuts.

If they are giving it to him, they will likely give it to others. The NCAA clearly doesn’t believe in itself and its role of maintaining some standards and competitive balance if they are too afraid to even defend duration of eligibility.

I’m signing on to the mass freshman lawsuit depriving them of making a living based on age discrimination.
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Haha, that was an April Fools post.
 




Holy Man said:
This is nuts.

If they are giving it to him, they will likely give it to others. The NCAA clearly doesn’t believe in itself and its role of maintaining some standards and competitive balance if they are too afraid to even defend duration of eligibility.

I’m signing on to the mass freshman lawsuit depriving them of making a living based on age discrimination.
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I was actually thinking the same thing. Many kids coming out of high school will be forced to go to lower division schools as no room at D1.
 



Johnnyboy18 said:

Edmonds and Mitchell are now both in the portal. A low major should just play a team full of players with no eligibility left and worry about consequences later.
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The NCAA is and has been a total joke for a while. They have just rolled in money for years and years and just looked the other way when a tough decision needed to be made. Now when those chickens come home to roost they are left with their pants down looking incredibly stupid. Every time someone pushes them it goes to court, they are so unprepared they lose and a new precedent is set.

I think I 100% agree with the above. Say you are some low major team coming off a 6-25 year and lost 12 guys to the portal. Why not find 12 guys who just want to keep playing who cares if they played 5 years already, put them out there. What's the worst that could happen, ncaa says no, you sue them. You 1. Make a name for yourself 2. Tie it up long enough they can't stop you for the season or 3. You win in court. The ncaa is so terrible its bound to work out someway.
 



leib0039 said:
The NCAA is and has been a total joke for a while. They have just rolled in money for years and years and just looked the other way when a tough decision needed to be made. Now when those chickens come home to roost they are left with their pants down looking incredibly stupid. Every time someone pushes them it goes to court, they are so unprepared they lose and a new precedent is set.

I think I 100% agree with the above. Say you are some low major team coming off a 6-25 year and lost 12 guys to the portal. Why not find 12 guys who just want to keep playing who cares if they played 5 years already, put them out there. What's the worst that could happen, ncaa says no, you sue them. You 1. Make a name for yourself 2. Tie it up long enough they can't stop you for the season or 3. You win in court. The ncaa is so terrible its bound to work out someway.
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One thing you're overlooking - you're not alone in this thread and others - is that the NCAA is not the only partner institution that schools have. They are part of conferences, and the conferences also have rules. If a school were to intentionally and publicly run afoul of NCAA rules in this manner, the conference would kick them out. And going independent wouldn't be an option because no NCAA institutions would schedule them.

While the rules seem to either change or are interpreted differently each day, member institutions (schools and conferences) fall in line quickly and create mutual protections. The idea that some low major team would risk its status AND tie up the schools legal representation to sue the NCAA (and then its own conference) is a complete fantasy.
 




leib0039 said:
The NCAA is and has been a total joke for a while. They have just rolled in money for years and years and just looked the other way when a tough decision needed to be made. Now when those chickens come home to roost they are left with their pants down looking incredibly stupid. Every time someone pushes them it goes to court, they are so unprepared they lose and a new precedent is set.

I think I 100% agree with the above. Say you are some low major team coming off a 6-25 year and lost 12 guys to the portal. Why not find 12 guys who just want to keep playing who cares if they played 5 years already, put them out there. What's the worst that could happen, ncaa says no, you sue them. You 1. Make a name for yourself 2. Tie it up long enough they can't stop you for the season or 3. You win in court. The ncaa is so terrible its bound to work out someway.
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It worked for Gabe Kaplan in Fast Break.

Go Cadwallader U!
 

Scottsdale Gopher said:
One thing you're overlooking - you're not alone in this thread and others - is that the NCAA is not the only partner institution that schools have. They are part of conferences, and the conferences also have rules. If a school were to intentionally and publicly run afoul of NCAA rules in this manner, the conference would kick them out. And going independent wouldn't be an option because no NCAA institutions would schedule them.

While the rules seem to either change or are interpreted differently each day, member institutions (schools and conferences) fall in line quickly and create mutual protections. The idea that some low major team would risk its status AND tie up the schools legal representation to sue the NCAA (and then its own conference) is a complete fantasy.
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I certainly get your point and it seems unlikely, but think of how stupid some of these other things sound that are currently happening.

I dont think conferences are in the business of kicking out teams. Again, lawsuit would handle that. It's 2025, if you don't get your way cry about it then sue. And if you don't like the ruling just don't abide by it. It's dumb but it's unfortunately the way the world is going.
 

leib0039 said:
The NCAA is and has been a total joke for a while. They have just rolled in money for years and years and just looked the other way when a tough decision needed to be made. Now when those chickens come home to roost they are left with their pants down looking incredibly stupid. Every time someone pushes them it goes to court, they are so unprepared they lose and a new precedent is set.

I think I 100% agree with the above. Say you are some low major team coming off a 6-25 year and lost 12 guys to the portal. Why not find 12 guys who just want to keep playing who cares if they played 5 years already, put them out there. What's the worst that could happen, ncaa says no, you sue them. You 1. Make a name for yourself 2. Tie it up long enough they can't stop you for the season or 3. You win in court. The ncaa is so terrible its bound to work out someway.
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I nominate Doug Gottlieb and his Green Bay team. Extra publicity and what has he got to lose. Might even give him a nice "out" to end this horrible experiment if the league decides to kick him out.
 


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