With three-peat in hand, the Big Ten has shifted the conference bragging rights battle

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But Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti doesn’t avoid the spotlight and doesn’t mince words about his team and the conference. Not only has the Big Ten won the last three national titles, but six of its members have reached, at least, the semifinals within the last three seasons, with Washington (2023), Penn State (2024) and Oregon (2025) joining the champs. The Huskies were still in the Pac-12 at the time of their appearance, which culminated in a CFP title game loss to Michigan.

“The results speak for themselves,” Cignetti said this week. “Those are facts.”

The Big Ten has come a long way from its overrated past, when Ohio State waved the banner and the rest of the league barely kept up. At the end of the 2006 and 2007 seasons, the Buckeyes lost BCS Championship Games decisively to Florida and then LSU, the start of seven consecutive titles for the SEC through 2012. Ohio State’s 2014 title in the first year of the four-team College Football Playoff gave the league an adrenaline shot, but the Big Ten won only one CFP game after that until Michigan broke through in 2023.

It wasn’t until players could receive payment for their name, image and likeness beginning in 2021 that the Big Ten started to assert itself again. This football season was the first during which schools could provide payment directly to athletes, and each of the Big Ten’s 18 members planned to spend to the $20.5 million cap across all sports. Most schools allocate much of that revenue sharing to football, which has facilitated an influx of elite transfers who have spurred the Big Ten to heightened success.


Go Gophers!!
 

Ole Miss over Tulane was the only game in the playoff the SEC won, that wasn’t SEC vs SEC. Talk about overrated. Unless I missed something, I’m sure I’ll be corrected, if I’m wrong.
 





Love to see it, but I’m not going to be like an Arkansas fan making sure everyone knows our conference is the greatest thing ever.
 


Love to see it, but I’m not going to be like an Arkansas fan making sure everyone knows our conference is the greatest thing ever.
Yeah ive always said


Conferences don’t win games, teams do.


Since Indiana, Ohio state, and Michigan won the last 3 titles I guess that means that Maryland is better than Kansas state next year
 




I just think the B1G seems to have a more developmental process to how rosters are being built in the new era of football. SEC teams seem to be so preoccupied with high end recruits, transfers, and HC's, their product is losing the fundamentals of team sport.
 

I just think the B1G seems to have a more developmental process to how rosters are being built in the new era of football. SEC teams seem to be so preoccupied with high end recruits, transfers, and HC's, their product is losing the fundamentals of team sport.
Indiana’s fundamentals were off the charts. Zero fumbles lost in like 63 quarters of football. Few penalties. I watched all their postseason games and there were very, very few missed tackles which was critical many times in preventing first downs. This is as big a reason for 16-0 as any $.
 

Love to see it, but I’m not going to be like an Arkansas fan making sure everyone knows our conference is the greatest thing ever.

I hope you're not trying to somehow equate the Arkansas football program to Gopher football.

Since 2017 when Fleck arrived, Minnesota is 66-44.

Since 2017, Arkansas (in comparison) is 40-69.

 




Yeah ive always said


Conferences don’t win games, teams do.


Since Indiana, Ohio state, and Michigan won the last 3 titles I guess that means that Maryland is better than Kansas state next year
Here is why I think it makes a difference. Maybe winning a national title doesn't feel like an achievable goal right now for teams like us, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, but making the playoff at least feels like it could be in reach. Whether it's the 12 team format or a future 16 team format eve more so. The 5th place SEC team got in the playoffs this year and some thought Texas or Vanderbilt should have been included (a 16 team playoff would have). We could be the team on the bubble at some point and the narrative that the B1G is the dominant conference in college football helps us get in.
 

Here is why I think it makes a difference. Maybe winning a national title doesn't feel like an achievable goal right now for teams like us, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, but making the playoff at least feels like it could be in reach. Whether it's the 12 team format or a future 16 team format eve more so. The 5th place SEC team got in the playoffs this year and some thought Texas or Vanderbilt should have been included (a 16 team playoff would have). We could be the team on the bubble at some point and the narrative that the B1G is the dominant conference in college football helps us get in.

Brilliant post. I'm frankly amazed that some folks don't seem to grasp this.

This also applies to the infamous preseason polls. Teams with a high ranking early in the season often appear to reap the benefit of those accolades even after it becomes apparent that they were very over rated from the start.
 

Brilliant post. I'm frankly amazed that some folks don't seem to grasp this.

This also applies to the infamous preseason polls. Teams with a high ranking early in the season often appear to reap the benefit of those accolades even after it becomes apparent that they were very over rated from the start.
Exactly. If it had been a 16 team field this year the SEC would've taken 7 of the 16 spots. The success of the conference boosts everyone in the conference. We're already battling ESPNs SEC bias. I'll always pull for a B1G team over the SEC whether I like them or not.
 

Here is why I think it makes a difference. Maybe winning a national title doesn't feel like an achievable goal right now for teams like us, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, but making the playoff at least feels like it could be in reach. Whether it's the 12 team format or a future 16 team format eve more so. The 5th place SEC team got in the playoffs this year and some thought Texas or Vanderbilt should have been included (a 16 team playoff would have). We could be the team on the bubble at some point and the narrative that the B1G is the dominant conference in college football helps us get in.
My point wasn’t that it makes no difference

My point is that the difference it makes is stupid
 


? Please explain.
I’m saying that you shouldn’t judge team 15 vs 16 based on who won the national title 3 years ago

In 2008 Florida won the national title so in 2026 Vanderbilt is rated ahead of Iowa
 

I’m saying that you shouldn’t judge team 15 vs 16 based on who won the national title 3 years ago

In 2008 Florida won the national title so in 2026 Vanderbilt is rated ahead of Iowa
So, you're not arguing that teams that are ranked early every year have an advantage? Or teams from the SEC (traditionally) and BIG 10 now, don't have an advantage? If that wasn't your argument, sorry for the question. Just wanted clarification.
 

I just think the B1G seems to have a more developmental process to how rosters are being built in the new era of football. SEC teams seem to be so preoccupied with high end recruits, transfers, and HC's, their product is losing the fundamentals of team sport.
Big ten does have more academically prestigious universities where as the SEC resides where illiteracy, meth, and obesity are the way of the land.
 

So, you're not arguing that teams that are ranked early every year have an advantage? Or teams from the SEC (traditionally) and BIG 10 now, don't have an advantage? If that wasn't your argument, sorry for the question. Just wanted clarification.
i am saying breaking ties with history is dumb
 




It’s what is currently done in college football rankings

The SEC used to have a built-in advantage in preseason rankings — and in the rankings in general — and they loudly celebrated their superior status; "It Just Matters More" is a statement of that claim to primacy.

The recent results on the field, head-to-head, have blown that claim of SEC superiority to smithereens.

The SEC and their close friends at ESPN can no longer plausibly assert that the SEC is the very best conference in college football. The B1G has shoved them off of their high horse. The result is that ESPN's continued and increasingly pathetic water-carrying for the SEC has become a ridiculous joke, and we football fans can smile, sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

The B1G's dominance in the postseason leaves no doubt as to which conference is the best. Will the B1G now reap the benefits of fawning media worship in the preseason polling (particularly at ESPN) that the SEC used to enjoy?
 
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The SEC used to have a built-in advantage in preseason rankings — and in the rankings in general — and they loudly celebrated their superior status; "It Just Matters More" is a statement of that claim to primacy.

The recent results on the field, head-to-head, have blown that claim of SEC superiority to smithereens.

The SEC and their close friends at ESPN can no longer plausibly assert that the SEC is the very best conference in college football. The B1G has shoved them off of their high horse. The result is that ESPN's continued and increasingly pathetic water-carrying for the SEC has become a ridiculous joke, and we football fans can smile, sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

The B1G's dominance in the postseason leaves no doubt as to which conference is the best. Will the B1G now reap the benefits of fawning media worship in the preseason polling (particularly at ESPN) that the SEC used to enjoy?
I am not sure but if the system is going to be stupid I’d prefer it be stupid in the gophers favor. So I hope so
 

The SEC used to have a built-in advantage in preseason rankings — and in the rankings in general — and they loudly celebrated their superior status; "It Just Matters More" is a statement of that claim to primacy.

The recent results on the field, head-to-head, have blown that claim of SEC superiority to smithereens.

The SEC and their close friends at ESPN can no longer plausibly assert that the SEC is the very best conference in college football. The B1G has shoved them off of their high horse. The result is that ESPN's continued and increasingly pathetic water-carrying for the SEC has become a ridiculous joke, and we football fans can smile, sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

The B1G's dominance in the postseason leaves no doubt as to which conference is the best. Will the B1G now reap the benefits of fawning media worship in the preseason polling (particularly at ESPN) that the SEC used to enjoy?
The answer is still NO. ESPN is too far gone and still employs full time SEC lobbyist Paul Finebaum. He offered to leave the country if the SEC didn't win the national title this year but last I knew he was still here (unfortunately). My guess is the SEC bias will still show in the preseason polls for next season.
 

It's definitely been an improvement from those years between 2008-2013.

During that time there were no national championship game appearances, let alone titles. Plus, during that time the Big Ten had no Heisman winners, no Maxwell Award winners, no Bronko Nagurski winners, Chuck Bednarik winners, Manning award winners and two Doak Walker winners.

So there were just two major national awards won in that time frame. Our FCS losses and Michigan falling other Appalachian State in 2007 didn’t help, either.

This was the bowl record over those years:
  • 2008, Big Ten bowl record was 1-6, including 0-2 in BCS games, and 1-1 in Citrus/Outback
  • 2009, Big Ten bowl record was 4-3, including 2-0 in BCS games and 1-1 in Citrus/Outback
  • 2010, Big Ten bowl record was 3-5, including 1-1 in BCS games and 0-2 in Citrus/Outback. The 1 BCS victory was later vacated
  • 2011, Big Ten bowl record was 4-6, including 1-1 in BCS games and 1-1 in Citrus/Outback
  • 2012, Big Ten bowl record was 2-5, including 0-1 in BCS games and 0-2 in Citrus/Outback
  • 2013 Big Ten bowl record was 2-5, including 1-1 in BCS games and 0-2 in Citrus/Outback
  • Overall bowl record was 16-30. BCS was 5-6. Citrus/Outback was 3-9
Also, in early season games featuring either ranked Big Ten teams or programs considered the class of the Big Ten, the conference went 9-17
  • 2008: Cal defeated Michigan State
  • 2008: Utah defeated Michigan
  • 2008: Notre Dame defeated Michigan
  • 2008: Michigan State defeated Notre Dame
  • 2008: No. 1 USC defeated No. 5 Ohio State
  • 2009: No. 3 USC defeated No. 8 Ohio State
  • 2009: Notre Dame defeated Michigan State
  • 2009: Michigan defeated Notre Dame
  • 2010: Michigan defeated Notre Dame
  • 2010: Alabama defeated Penn State
  • 2011: Michigan State defeated Notre Dame
  • 2011 Ohio State defeated Miami* Vacated
  • 2011: No. 3 Alabama defeated No. 23 Penn State
  • 2011: Michigan defeated Notre Dame
  • 2012: No. 2 Alabama defeated No. 8 Michigan
  • 2012: No. 13 Michigan State defeated No. 24 Boise State
  • 2012: No. 22 UCLA defeated No. 16 Nebraska
  • 2012: Oregon State defeated No. 13 Wisconsin
  • 2012: Virginia defeated Penn State
  • 2012: No. 20 Notre Dame defeated No. 10 Michigan State
  • 2012: No. 11 Notre Dame defeated No. 18 Michigan
  • 2013: No. 22 Northwestern defeated Cal
  • 2013: No. 17 Michigan defeated No. 14 Notre Dame
  • 2013: No. 16 UCLA defeated No. 23 Nebraska
  • 2013: Arizona State defeated No. 20 Wisconsin
  • 2013: No. 22 Notre Dame defeated Michigan State
From 2014 and onward, the conference's profile has improved significantly. Even before the recent three-peat, the conference looked much more competitive in the latter 2010s.
 




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