Wisconsin D-Coordinator Dave Aranda leaving for LSU

You might want to go back and look at the salaries of assistants in the Big Ten and where they rank in comparison to the SEC. Then take a look at the number of assistants that have left Big Ten schools for SEC schools in the last 5 years or so. It is a problem. I would like to know where you got the idea that Aranda was leaving for a HC job. He was rumored for multiple DC jobs.

Assuming it is a "problem", how is it a not a bigger problem for the ACC, Pac12 or (especially) the BigXII? They all have more teams with very little resources.

Or, are you suggesting that the Power 5 is really the Power2 (and their 3 little sisters), and the B1G is really only competing against the SEC in major college football?
 

Their troubled line killed us. Aranda is a big loss, but PC is a really good offensive coach.

That "troubled line" of the Badgers averaged around 315-320, freshmen or not, and lined up against a Gopher line that (without Richardson and S. Ekpe) averaged about 260 up front.

The Badgers should have rolled up 600 yards rushing against the Gophers. Good grief, there was a Sam Renner sighting in the Badger game (yes, the 249 lb freshmen DL Sam Renner). By my (albeit vague) recollection, Shoub Timms was the only DL that took the field all day against the Badgers that tipped the scales over 265 or so.

It was THAT ugly...
 

The Badgers should have rolled up 600 yards rushing against the Gophers. Good grief, there was a Sam Renner sighting in the Badger game (yes, the 249 lb freshmen DL Sam Renner). By my (albeit vague) recollection, Shoub Timms was the only DL that took the field all day against the Badgers that tipped the scales over 265 or so.

It was THAT ugly...

I very much doubt that Sam Renner played against Wisconsin. He's not listed in the participation report, and he was a true freshman walk-on.

To your latter point, Stelter and Carr are both around 280.
 

They could not run at all against Northwestern. We are undersized because of our recruiting decisions.
 

They could not run at all against Northwestern. We are undersized because of our recruiting decisions.

Our recruiting decisions or the decisions of those we tried and failed at recruiting?!


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It's the one real issue I have with Claeys' scheme. I think it relies on too much stunting up front and to do that, the decision has been made to go for smaller guys in the interior (for the most part). I think at the B1G level, a team has to have a stay-at-home roadblock in the middle to eat up a couple of blockers and let the other guys stunt away to their hearts' content.
 

I think that things are changing on the defensive line, Merrick Jackson wasn't on the radar before Coach Kill stepped down, at 310 lbs he'll go a long ways towards shoring up the DL.
 

What are the college rules (if there indeed are any) about contacting coaches (assistant or otherwise) for job openings at other schools during the season? Given the relatively unexpected (and rapid) departure of Andersen from Wisconsin last year, the assistants were kind of left holding the bag. I don't know Aranda's personal situation as to whether or not he has kids in school, but I wonder if he just stayed put in Wisconsin for a year (no way Chryst was letting him go) for a year to let the dust settle before putting out feelers to see what else might be out there. Just spitballin' here.

I don't believe that there are any rules against it. Most schools ask that you wait until after the season for formal interviews, but I don't think there's anything they can do to prevent it, especially if it's a promotion. I'm nearly certain Maturi talked to Tubby during the season before hiring him.
 

Just curious about this statement. I'm not saying u r wrong, I'd just like to know if u can point to some article that proves this because I would like to see how big the disparity is if what u r saying is true. It isn't important enough for me to do the leg work myself so I didn't look at all schools. I did however compare the athletic websites of Minnesota and Georgia. Obviously SEC schools are not gonna have hockey so toss that sport out the window. I see the same sports on both websites except Minnesota has rowing and wrestling which Georgia doesn't have, but Georgia has equestrian which Minnesota doesn't list. At least between these two schools there doesn't seem to be much difference overall.

Looking at specific sports overcomplicates it. Georgia has 18 sports, LSU has 16. Minnesota has 23. Miss St (picked at random) has 15. Tennessee (again picked at random) has 14. Florida has 19.

After looking that up, I went searching and Wiki lays it out pretty nicely. The Big Ten has a total of 149 men's sports and 176 women's sports. The SEC has 118 men's sports and 148 women's sports. So, on average, there are are 4.2 more sports per B1G school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Conference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference

This disparity increases if you look at sports the schools participate in outside of the B1G, like women's hockey. There are 25 such school-sport combos in the Big Ten, but only 14 in the SEC. I'd also have to think that expenses for women's hockey (popular in B1G) are much higher than those for rifle (popular in SEC). I'm not sure where LSU does their beach volleyballing, but I can't imagine it costs as much to maintain as the ice sheet at Ridder.

Almost all female athletes will be on scholarship to balance out the Title IX restrictions. If you say that's 10 per team, and assume it's even $30K per year per scholarship, this adds up pretty quickly. This, of course, is to say nothing of the travel, equipment, staff, coaches, etc. This article lists some of the random sports' salaries and they range between $75k and $150k. http://www.twincities.com/ci_22742857/eight-other-gophers-coaches-received-contract-extensions-2012

I'm making this up, but I'd think your average non-revenue sport has at least $500k/year in expenses, all-told. At ~5 sports per school, that's $2.5M. And I have to think I know where most SEC schools are spending that money.

I will admit that this is only part of the disparity. I would also guess that the donors at those SEC schools give a higher percentage of their money to the athletics department rather than to the University itself. Again, speculation, but I'd also think that more Big Ten athletic departments give money back to the University too.
 



The Badgers beat the Gophers 9 times in a row before Aranda arrived. I don't see how him leaving will make any difference.

After reading on this board for the last four years how bad Stave is, his departure should be viewed as a plus.

Will be another good year for the Badgers next year, possibly a great one. Thanks for the concern.
 

The Badgers beat the Gophers 9 times in a row before Aranda arrived. I don't see how him leaving will make any difference.

After reading on this board for the last four years how bad Stave is, his departure should be viewed as a plus.

Will be another good year for the Badgers next year, possibly a great one. Thanks for the concern.

Might want to take a look at your schedule next season. I am not like some in here that predict a Badger demise each year but your schedule next season is brutal much like ours was this past season.
 

The Badgers beat the Gophers 9 times in a row before Aranda arrived. I don't see how him leaving will make any difference.

After reading on this board for the last four years how bad Stave is, his departure should be viewed as a plus.

Will be another good year for the Badgers next year, possibly a great one. Thanks for the concern.
Goodluck with that schedule. Powers that be decided to gang rape you with no lube
 

All you have to do is look at the USC game to see why we are glad Aranda is gone. He found and exploited a flaw in their protection scheme disrupting their offense and allowing Wisconsin to win. Defensive minds that sharpe are rare so we're glad to see him go. Wisconsin's offensive line hasn't been quite as good lately without Coach Bolstad, their defense will also take a step back, without Coach Aranda.
 




The Badgers beat the Gophers 9 times in a row before Aranda arrived. I don't see how him leaving will make any difference.

After reading on this board for the last four years how bad Stave is, his departure should be viewed as a plus.

Will be another good year for the Badgers next year, possibly a great one. Thanks for the concern.

After the past decade, it's really hard to refute this with any authority...but it's impossible to think that losing Aranda won't hurt you guys at all? We're just talking about badger hurt right now...nobody cares about the past and we all know it might not matter in the future. But this is bad for the badgers, so I'm happy.
 

Biggest thing I hope is they switch back to a 4-3 as I'm sure it would affect their recruiting in a negative way
 

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/p...eds-a-new-story-for-coaches-leaving-wisconsin

1. I don’t buy Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez’s rationale for losing another good coach to the SEC. Defensive coordinator Dave Aranda went to LSU for a reported $1.3 million per year, more than double what Wisconsin paid him ($520,000). Three years ago, Badgers coach Bret Bielema left for Arkansas after tussling with Alvarez over paying assistants. Alvarez blames the discrepancy on Wisconsin sponsoring 23 sports, while LSU and Arkansas have only 19. So what about Stanford (36), Ohio State (35) and Penn State (29)? Shouldn’t they be struggling? They’re not.
 

Ohio State's top assistants are paid half a million less than Aranda got. So would that writer consider that struggling?
 

So LSU's DC will basically make as much money as Tracy Claeys. Crazy.
 

So LSU's DC will basically make as much money as Tracy Claeys. Crazy.

Welcome to the world of the SEC. That conference is the driving force behind the insane inflation of coaching salaries in recent years. Lower level schools and even schools in the Big Ten really have no shot of trying to keep pace because they just aren't willing to sink that kind of money into coaching salaries and frankly I don't blame them.
 




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