Why PJ flack is the correct coach for Minnesota..

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I'm seeing a lot of people here posting about PJ fleck needing to be replaced or hoping he goes somewhere else. Do you guys remember what we were like before him? I get that he has been good, not great (sans the 1 year). Do you realize how little money we have to play with?

In his time here, here are three stats that hopefully makes sense to everyone. And yes, I wish we could take the next step to become a consistent top 20 team, but we are Minnesota and we are a liberal school that puts little into the football program

P.J. Fleck at Minnesota (2017–2025)

📅 Year-by-Year Record & Bowl Outcomes
- 2017: 5–7 (no bowl)
- 2018: 7–6 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Georgia Tech)
- 2019: 11–2 → Outback Bowl win (vs. Auburn)
- 2020: 3–4 (COVID year, no bowl)
- 2021: 9–4 → Guaranteed Rate Bowl win (vs. West Virginia)
- 2022: 9–4 → Pinstripe Bowl win (vs. Syracuse)
- 2023: 6–7 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Bowling Green)
- 2024: 8–5 → Duke’s Mayo Bowl win (vs. NC State)
- 2025: Season ongoing and we made a bowl game....Again.


Minnesota vs. Wisconsin Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|---------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 31 – Minnesota 0 | Wisconsin |
| 2018 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 37 – Wisconsin 15 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 38 – Minnesota 17 | Wisconsin |
| 2020 | Madison, WI | Wisconsin 20 – Minnesota 17 (OT) | Wisconsin |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 13 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 16 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 28 – Minnesota 14 | Wisconsin |
| 2024 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 24 – Wisconsin 7 | Minnesota |


Minnesota vs. Nebraska Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|-----------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Nebraska 28 – Minnesota 24 | Nebraska |
| 2018 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 31 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 7 | Minnesota |
| 2020 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 17 | Minnesota |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 30 – Nebraska 23 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 20 – Nebraska 13 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 13 – Nebraska 10 | Minnesota |
| 2024 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 27 – Nebraska 20 | Minnesota |
| 2025 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 6 | Minnesota |


If you would have told me this when I was in junior high, high school, or college or even a few years after college I would have told you this is never going to happen. We couldn't beat Nebraska. We couldn't beat Wisconsin. We were lucky to make a bowl game once every 4 or 5 years.


I am just as frustrated as everybody that we haven't become consistently great, but this is the best decade run we have had in my lifetime. I'm at the point now or it's just time to enjoy it. Row the boat. Ski U Mah. Row the boat! Go beat the f*** out of the badgers tomorrow.
 

I do not think Coach Fleck should be let go, but he isn’t the second coming of …say Bud Grant. I think he should feel just a little heat, as far as the records against Wi and NE, Ithink at this point, it’s more due to their downswings than the Gophers upswing.
I am just going to post again, our last 3 recruiting and portal classes are almost identical overall to Indiana, NIL money a non factor, that bothers me.
 

Texan Gopher said:
I'm seeing a lot of people here posting about PJ fleck needing to be replaced or hoping he goes somewhere else. Do you guys remember what we were like before him? I get that he has been good, not great (sans the 1 year). Do you realize how little money we have to play with?

In his time here, here are three stats that hopefully makes sense to everyone. And yes, I wish we could take the next step to become a consistent top 20 team, but we are Minnesota and we are a liberal school that puts little into the football program

P.J. Fleck at Minnesota (2017–2025)

📅 Year-by-Year Record & Bowl Outcomes
- 2017: 5–7 (no bowl)
- 2018: 7–6 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Georgia Tech)
- 2019: 11–2 → Outback Bowl win (vs. Auburn)
- 2020: 3–4 (COVID year, no bowl)
- 2021: 9–4 → Guaranteed Rate Bowl win (vs. West Virginia)
- 2022: 9–4 → Pinstripe Bowl win (vs. Syracuse)
- 2023: 6–7 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Bowling Green)
- 2024: 8–5 → Duke’s Mayo Bowl win (vs. NC State)
- 2025: Season ongoing and we made a bowl game....Again.


Minnesota vs. Wisconsin Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|---------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 31 – Minnesota 0 | Wisconsin |
| 2018 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 37 – Wisconsin 15 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 38 – Minnesota 17 | Wisconsin |
| 2020 | Madison, WI | Wisconsin 20 – Minnesota 17 (OT) | Wisconsin |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 13 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 16 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 28 – Minnesota 14 | Wisconsin |
| 2024 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 24 – Wisconsin 7 | Minnesota |


Minnesota vs. Nebraska Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|-----------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Nebraska 28 – Minnesota 24 | Nebraska |
| 2018 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 31 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 7 | Minnesota |
| 2020 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 17 | Minnesota |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 30 – Nebraska 23 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 20 – Nebraska 13 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 13 – Nebraska 10 | Minnesota |
| 2024 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 27 – Nebraska 20 | Minnesota |
| 2025 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 6 | Minnesota |


If you would have told me this when I was in junior high, high school, or college or even a few years after college I would have told you this is never going to happen. We couldn't beat Nebraska. We couldn't beat Wisconsin. We were lucky to make a bowl game once every 4 or 5 years.


I am just as frustrated as everybody that we haven't become consistently great, but this is the best decade run we have had in my lifetime. I'm at the point now or it's just time to enjoy it. Row the boat. Ski U Mah. Row the boat! Go beat the f*** out of the badgers tomorrow.
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Interesting score for the 2024 Nebraska game, considering we didn’t play them last year.
 

I think PJ being conservative with respect to game planning, and a bit of a corny goofball in press is what gets a lot of people fucked up — like a week after week blue balling via WR screens and RUTMs leaves the guys on this forum yearning to blow the program up gambling 10 more years of eating shit for maybe being Indiana like.

It does seem like GH is a special hell hole where we would rather commit philosophical seppuku or at the very least a weekly humiliation ritual for likes [e.g. picking a very weak wisco to win tomorrow] because some haven’t gotten over the trauma of the metrodome era and don’t perceive themselves worthy of joy.

In general, I agree with your post.

RTB. SUM. GG
 

Texan Gopher said:
I'm seeing a lot of people here posting about PJ fleck needing to be replaced or hoping he goes somewhere else. Do you guys remember what we were like before him? I get that he has been good, not great (sans the 1 year). Do you realize how little money we have to play with?

In his time here, here are three stats that hopefully makes sense to everyone. And yes, I wish we could take the next step to become a consistent top 20 team, but we are Minnesota and we are a liberal school that puts little into the football program

P.J. Fleck at Minnesota (2017–2025)

📅 Year-by-Year Record & Bowl Outcomes
- 2017: 5–7 (no bowl)
- 2018: 7–6 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Georgia Tech)
- 2019: 11–2 → Outback Bowl win (vs. Auburn)
- 2020: 3–4 (COVID year, no bowl)
- 2021: 9–4 → Guaranteed Rate Bowl win (vs. West Virginia)
- 2022: 9–4 → Pinstripe Bowl win (vs. Syracuse)
- 2023: 6–7 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Bowling Green)
- 2024: 8–5 → Duke’s Mayo Bowl win (vs. NC State)
- 2025: Season ongoing and we made a bowl game....Again.


Minnesota vs. Wisconsin Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|---------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 31 – Minnesota 0 | Wisconsin |
| 2018 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 37 – Wisconsin 15 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 38 – Minnesota 17 | Wisconsin |
| 2020 | Madison, WI | Wisconsin 20 – Minnesota 17 (OT) | Wisconsin |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 13 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 16 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 28 – Minnesota 14 | Wisconsin |
| 2024 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 24 – Wisconsin 7 | Minnesota |


Minnesota vs. Nebraska Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|-----------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Nebraska 28 – Minnesota 24 | Nebraska |
| 2018 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 31 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 7 | Minnesota |
| 2020 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 17 | Minnesota |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 30 – Nebraska 23 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 20 – Nebraska 13 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 13 – Nebraska 10 | Minnesota |
| 2024 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 27 – Nebraska 20 | Minnesota |
| 2025 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 6 | Minnesota |


If you would have told me this when I was in junior high, high school, or college or even a few years after college I would have told you this is never going to happen. We couldn't beat Nebraska. We couldn't beat Wisconsin. We were lucky to make a bowl game once every 4 or 5 years.


I am just as frustrated as everybody that we haven't become consistently great, but this is the best decade run we have had in my lifetime. I'm at the point now or it's just time to enjoy it. Row the boat. Ski U Mah. Row the boat! Go beat the f*** out of the badgers tomorrow.
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Nebraska and Wisconsin suck now. Ya think PJ would be curb stomping the teams those schools rolled out in Mason’s era? You must not be watching the games the enjoyment factor is seriously lacking. I hope PJ turns it around tomorrow.
 


I don't want Fleck fired. I still think he can continue to build upon his successes here. I also absolutely do not want Coyle anywhere near hiring a replacement right now. Every other program at the University is in decline at the moment. He's got a lot of other things to worry about.
 

I really think if they (the admin) or PJ were to invest in better coordinators I think he might be able to start turning the corner but that’s my opinion. These guys just aren’t experienced enough.
 

PJ is the wrong guy for the job, if you want a higher ceiling for the program.
Convince me I’m wrong for wanting a higher ceiling.
If he left for another job, who would you want as interim HC?
I’ll wait...
 

Texan Gopher said:
I'm seeing a lot of people here posting about PJ fleck needing to be replaced or hoping he goes somewhere else. Do you guys remember what we were like before him? I get that he has been good, not great (sans the 1 year). Do you realize how little money we have to play with?

In his time here, here are three stats that hopefully makes sense to everyone. And yes, I wish we could take the next step to become a consistent top 20 team, but we are Minnesota and we are a liberal school that puts little into the football program

P.J. Fleck at Minnesota (2017–2025)

📅 Year-by-Year Record & Bowl Outcomes
- 2017: 5–7 (no bowl)
- 2018: 7–6 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Georgia Tech)
- 2019: 11–2 → Outback Bowl win (vs. Auburn)
- 2020: 3–4 (COVID year, no bowl)
- 2021: 9–4 → Guaranteed Rate Bowl win (vs. West Virginia)
- 2022: 9–4 → Pinstripe Bowl win (vs. Syracuse)
- 2023: 6–7 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Bowling Green)
- 2024: 8–5 → Duke’s Mayo Bowl win (vs. NC State)
- 2025: Season ongoing and we made a bowl game....Again.


Minnesota vs. Wisconsin Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|---------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 31 – Minnesota 0 | Wisconsin |
| 2018 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 37 – Wisconsin 15 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 38 – Minnesota 17 | Wisconsin |
| 2020 | Madison, WI | Wisconsin 20 – Minnesota 17 (OT) | Wisconsin |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 13 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 16 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 28 – Minnesota 14 | Wisconsin |
| 2024 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 24 – Wisconsin 7 | Minnesota |


Minnesota vs. Nebraska Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|-----------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Nebraska 28 – Minnesota 24 | Nebraska |
| 2018 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 31 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 7 | Minnesota |
| 2020 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 17 | Minnesota |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 30 – Nebraska 23 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 20 – Nebraska 13 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 13 – Nebraska 10 | Minnesota |
| 2024 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 27 – Nebraska 20 | Minnesota |
| 2025 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 6 | Minnesota |


If you would have told me this when I was in junior high, high school, or college or even a few years after college I would have told you this is never going to happen. We couldn't beat Nebraska. We couldn't beat Wisconsin. We were lucky to make a bowl game once every 4 or 5 years.


I am just as frustrated as everybody that we haven't become consistently great, but this is the best decade run we have had in my lifetime. I'm at the point now or it's just time to enjoy it. Row the boat. Ski U Mah. Row the boat! Go beat the f*** out of the badgers tomorrow.
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MN vs Iowa?
 



Texan Gopher said:
I'm seeing a lot of people here posting about PJ fleck needing to be replaced or hoping he goes somewhere else. Do you guys remember what we were like before him? I get that he has been good, not great (sans the 1 year). Do you realize how little money we have to play with?

In his time here, here are three stats that hopefully makes sense to everyone. And yes, I wish we could take the next step to become a consistent top 20 team, but we are Minnesota and we are a liberal school that puts little into the football program

P.J. Fleck at Minnesota (2017–2025)

📅 Year-by-Year Record & Bowl Outcomes
- 2017: 5–7 (no bowl)
- 2018: 7–6 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Georgia Tech)
- 2019: 11–2 → Outback Bowl win (vs. Auburn)
- 2020: 3–4 (COVID year, no bowl)
- 2021: 9–4 → Guaranteed Rate Bowl win (vs. West Virginia)
- 2022: 9–4 → Pinstripe Bowl win (vs. Syracuse)
- 2023: 6–7 → Quick Lane Bowl win (vs. Bowling Green)
- 2024: 8–5 → Duke’s Mayo Bowl win (vs. NC State)
- 2025: Season ongoing and we made a bowl game....Again.


Minnesota vs. Wisconsin Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|---------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 31 – Minnesota 0 | Wisconsin |
| 2018 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 37 – Wisconsin 15 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 38 – Minnesota 17 | Wisconsin |
| 2020 | Madison, WI | Wisconsin 20 – Minnesota 17 (OT) | Wisconsin |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 13 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 23 – Wisconsin 16 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Wisconsin 28 – Minnesota 14 | Wisconsin |
| 2024 | Madison, WI | Minnesota 24 – Wisconsin 7 | Minnesota |


Minnesota vs. Nebraska Results Under P.J. Fleck

| Year | Location | Final Score | Winner |
|------|-----------------|-------------|--------|
| 2017 | Minneapolis, MN | Nebraska 28 – Minnesota 24 | Nebraska |
| 2018 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 31 | Minnesota |
| 2019 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 34 – Nebraska 7 | Minnesota |
| 2020 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 17 | Minnesota |
| 2021 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 30 – Nebraska 23 | Minnesota |
| 2022 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 20 – Nebraska 13 | Minnesota |
| 2023 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 13 – Nebraska 10 | Minnesota |
| 2024 | Lincoln, NE | Minnesota 27 – Nebraska 20 | Minnesota |
| 2025 | Minneapolis, MN | Minnesota 24 – Nebraska 6 | Minnesota |


If you would have told me this when I was in junior high, high school, or college or even a few years after college I would have told you this is never going to happen. We couldn't beat Nebraska. We couldn't beat Wisconsin. We were lucky to make a bowl game once every 4 or 5 years.


I am just as frustrated as everybody that we haven't become consistently great, but this is the best decade run we have had in my lifetime. I'm at the point now or it's just time to enjoy it. Row the boat. Ski U Mah. Row the boat! Go beat the f*** out of the badgers tomorrow.
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I understand that this PJ Flack character is a good coach, but what about PJ Fleck?
 


Cobra said:
PJ is the wrong guy for the job, if you want a higher ceiling for the program.
Convince me I’m wrong for wanting a higher ceiling.
If he left for another job, who would you want as interim HC?
I’ll wait...
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Who do you think we could get? Kane Kiffen is not picking up our calls. Brian Kelly killed a kid and wouldn’t come coach here
 

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