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What grade for the season?
B. Not losing to Illinois and winning the bowl game would've bumped to an A.
Would you say the same thing 3 years ago? If we play meaningful, competitive football in November, that's all I can ask for.Not sure how 8-5 is ever an A. Have to get to 10 wins to be an A in my opinion, but this was a solid B.
Would you say the same thing 3 years ago? If we play meaningful, competitive football in November, that's all I can ask for.
Fair enough. I'm more then happy with a consistent 8+ wins per year. Hopefully we can get the + next year.Sure, the grading scale remains the same. We've just had a lot of D and F seasons in the past. It doesn't change the scale.
Would you say the same thing 3 years ago? If we play meaningful, competitive football in November, that's all I can ask for.
How does this make my expectations low? That means we are playing for a conference title the last couple weeks of the year. Do you think we're some sort of OSU or Wisconsin now?Why? Are expectations really that low for the program in your mind?
Last year we were 8-5, this year we were 8-5 with a tougher schedule. We improved and added some bricks. I graded us a B.
How does this make my expectations low? That means we are playing for a conference title the last couple weeks of the year. Do you think we're some sort of OSU or Wisconsin now?
On a year by year basis, I would want to play meaningful November games. If we play them, we'll eventually win some of them and take another step up.If your comment and expectation was just for this year, I apologize. I was thrilled to play meaningful games this year in November.
If your expectation is for all-time, my expectations are quite a bit higher than just competing and playing meaningful football.
On a year by year basis, I would want to play meaningful November games. If we play them, we'll eventually win some of them and take another step up.
How does this make my expectations low? That means we are playing for a conference title the last couple weeks of the year. Do you think we're some sort of OSU or Wisconsin now?
Don't disagree, but you might be waiting for a while if you expect us to have many seasons like OSU or Wisconsin has consistently. Just think it's a realistic goal to be in the thick of a Big Ten division race each year rather than expecting double digit wins.So long as we aren't some sort of OSU or Wisconsin, my grade won't be A. In my opinion, OSU and MSU get A's this year, Wisconsin an A-, and we were a solid B. We still lost five games, one was to a bad team, and of the other four one featured a collapse and blown lead that extended our unacceptably long losing streak to our biggest rival, one was a very sloppy bowl performance, and one was an absolute blowout. The OSU game is the only one of the losses that I look at and am comfortable with our effort, focus, and preparation.
Don't disagree, but you might be waiting for a while if you expect us to have many seasons like OSU or Wisconsin has consistently. Just think it's a realistic goal to be in the thick of a Big Ten division race each year rather than expecting double digit wins.
I understand, but we aren't going to turn into OSU overnight. Obviously I want to be on that level, but it isn't going to happen in the immediate future.With all due respect mcal, this is the attitude I hate from our fan base.