I still feel like it really hinges on who they hire for AD but if I had to go one way or the other I would go with the field under the assumption that they will hire an outside AD to run the department and he will want to bring in his own coach to run things, especially with Kill out of the picture.
Would love to see Claeys end up with it if he proves he is up to the challenge but I am guessing they will end up going a different direction.
So, next year the players self coach themselves? Leidner coaches the offense and Poock the defense? Or, you are going to hire a coach in August? It's all silly...we have investigations to complete before we begin to hire an A.D., then we have to search for one and before he/she even knows anybody's name, you want his/her first task to be hiring a football coach? A real big maybe...it could go faster if Beth or Dan got the job...but I'm guessing they'd be leaning to Claeys...wouldn't they? The idea of talking about hiring a football coach is silly... (1) You don't tout a proven staff staying together as being the greatest strength of your organization and then fire them because the boss retires. (2) We don't have an A.D. and won't for some time...making the hiring of a football coach pretty difficult. (3) If you rush to the process of hiring an A.D. just to hire a football coach, that's even sillier.
Claeys is the coach. See what he does and then talk about it. But I don't see how any of this works without Claeys being the coach next year? You are not hiring a coach by January? Signing date is February...we presently have some great recruits and Coughlin says he committed to the staff and the University. Support what we have in place is my advice.
And the language in Kill's contract provides for him to transition to an athletic department position should this health scenario happen. So Kill is not "out of the picture" moving forward at the U of M, if he desires to be here. They have $80 million dollars to raise.
Seeing that we won't have a permanent AD until spring (at the earliest), the only logical thing is to keep Claeys on as Head Coach.
If we are actually going to have to wait until next spring to hire an AD then I would agree it would make sense to give Claeys a contract with a low buyout number for a few years. That way when the new AD does get hired they will have some flexibility to either rework the contract into something better if Claeys is working out or cut ties and bring in their own choice to run things.
A perhaps more interesting question is how many wins in the last five will automatically earn Claeys the job?
Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin
I think three wins and it's a slam dunk. Two wins and it's likely. One win against someone other than Illinois and it's a maybe. One win against Illinois or zero wins and we've got a coaching search.
Went with the field. I am not of the group that Claeys should just be handed the job no matter what happens the rest of this season. Hiring the football coach just might be the most important hire an AD makes at a P5 school. Keeping the interim tag on Claeys certainly won't help recruiting through next season but that seems the way this is heading unless Goetz or O'Brien are hired sooner rather than later.
I think the only way Claeys gets the HC job is if President Kaler does the hiring. No way do I see them letting an interim AD make the hire. This is not like a Harbaugh at Michigan type of deal.
Went with the field. I am not of the group that Claeys should just be handed the job no matter what happens the rest of this season. Hiring the football coach just might be the most important hire an AD makes at a P5 school. Keeping the interim tag on Claeys certainly won't help recruiting through next season but that seems the way this is heading unless Goetz or O'Brien are hired sooner rather than later.
I think the only way Claeys gets the HC job is if President Kaler does the hiring. No way do I see them letting an interim AD make the hire. This is not like a Harbaugh at Michigan type of deal.
So, under your scenario, are we hiring a new coach over the summer? That seems pretty unlikely. Kaler has said a permanent AD won't be in place until the spring at the earliest. The U is in a pretty tough spot here.
Agree a hire in the summer is unlikely. It seems at least to me the interim tag may stay on Claeys through next season. Certainly not ideal but this "give him a 4 year deal" it will be cheap and see where we are at in 2 years doesn't seem like the best course either but they may be the only way out.
You're correct - the U is in a pretty tough spot.
I don't think they can drag the interim thing out beyond the end of this season. They either need to hire Claeys or find someone else because you would kill recruiting to keep the interim label on there. How hard are the coaches going to want to work at recruiting if they don't know what their future at the school looks like? How do you sell a recruit on your vision if that recruit has no clue if you are going to even be the head coach when they get to campus?
One way or another you have to commit to a direction. It isn't fair to anyone involved to string things out.
Agree a hire in the summer is unlikely. It seems at least to me the interim tag may stay on Claeys through next season. Certainly not ideal but this "give him a 4 year deal" it will be cheap and see where we are at in 2 years doesn't seem like the best course either but they may be the only way out.
You're correct - the U is in a pretty tough spot.
The thought of hiring Claeys and reevaluate in a couple years won't help recruiting either.
If you hire Claeys he needs the security of a 5 year deal not a 3 year deal.
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there is no chance this is correct. Claeys will be hired. It's the only choice to make, barring something really bad happening in November. The fans and the admin are happy with this staff and the progress we have made. firing the whole staff seems incredibly unlikely, when there really isn't any better option any where else, and there is a ton of competition for coaching at some big time programs.
An interim label through multiple seasons? Has that ever happened before at any other school? Claeys wouldn't even accept that.
It is highly unlikely an interim label will go through multiple seasons. I understand that. There are other alternatives the U can pursue before making a decision. What doesn't make sense is saying hiring Tracy Claeys is the only choice.
Good points - the administration has dragged its feet on the AD job and now makes this very questionable statement that they have to have an AD before they can hire a coach, thus crashing into all kinds od deadlines. Not a smooth operation over there.So, next year the players self coach themselves? Leidner coaches the offense and Poock the defense? Or, you are going to hire a coach in August? It's all silly...we have investigations to complete before we begin to hire an A.D., then we have to search for one and before he/she even knows anybody's name, you want his/her first task to be hiring a football coach? A real big maybe...it could go faster if Beth or Dan got the job...but I'm guessing they'd be leaning to Claeys...wouldn't they? The idea of talking about hiring a football coach is silly... (1) You don't tout a proven staff staying together as being the greatest strength of your organization and then fire them because the boss retires. (2) We don't have an A.D. and won't for some time...making the hiring of a football coach pretty difficult. (3) If you rush to the process of hiring an A.D. just to hire a football coach, that's even sillier.
Claeys is the coach. See what he does and then talk about it. But I don't see how any of this works without Claeys being the coach next year? You are not hiring a coach by January? Signing date is February...we presently have some great recruits and Coughlin says he committed to the staff and the University. Support what we have in place is my advice.
And the language in Kill's contract provides for him to transition to an athletic department position should this health scenario happen. So Kill is not "out of the picture" moving forward at the U of M, if he desires to be here. They have $80 million dollars to raise.
This makes no sense. You hire Claeys now, you keep this class together, and the work they've done on the '17 class as well. That helps recruiting.
It doesn't really matter if he has a 4 or 5 year deal. If he doesn't keep the momentum of the team going, he's probably on a shorter leash than a new coach would have. Length of deal isn't going to matter, buyout is what would matter.