Weber till the end?

BoogeyMan - the Quarterback in football is the most vital position,and will always recieve too much credit for a win and too much blame for a loss

These are opposing statements you know.
 

The defense isn't a part of this argument, its about the starting quarterback but to appease you I will also agree to playing more of the second and third string defense in hopes of overcoming Kevin Cosgrove's defensive gameplan.
Now, I stand by what I said when stating that I want to see what Gray or Alipate can do for that matter. We can also mix it up at running back and go down the depth chart there! JFC!

As I've said, I completely agree. I would even like to see Gray play every third series or so as has been mentioned here in some cases. Without question I want to know what we have to look forward to next year. I want to know what he's capable of.

But to say he should be starting in place of Weber is just not bright. I still maintain Weber has been pretty good this year and it has little to do with just stats. I don't have a problem saying it. The real key for me is when you actually go back and watch the replay of the game as opposed to just live. Every time I've watched the replay, Weber looked better in the replay than during the game.

People like to point to the McKnight TD to take the lead against USC as being a great pass, and it was; perfect, right on the money. But what about the TD in the alleged "garbage time" to finish the game to Gray. You can say it was against backups but in watching the replay, Gray was covered fairly well and the pass was perfect.

My guess is, for whatever the reason, we'll see Gray take some snaps along the way here. Time will tell....
 

To give Brewster some credit, at least they are playing their best player this year (M. Gray).
 

Please can anyone name a big game that Weber has won in the 4 years of being starting QB??? Haloween vs Michigan State is the closest I can think of! Decker saved his ass for the most part of his career. Another qb needs to be taking snaps at center for some progress towards the future. I wish Gray could but he's becoming a stud and 1/2 at wr and would leave us with Da'jon Mcknight as our only descent wr. Remember him and Brewster have 0 trophy games and lots of embarassments. YOUR WELCOME!!!
 

Godddd, Weber puts up some yardage against prevent D in a 23-point outing, and loss, to a MAC team. Wow, what a f'ing stud!

No one here EVER said that Weber is the Gophers ONLY problem - but he IS a problem. The QB is the most important person on a football team. He is also a captain, and he's supposed to lead. He doesn't do either. And I've already gone over his deficiencies as a QB (as have plenty of others) before, let's not go there again; but needless to say, he does not excell in any single skill set as a QB, including and certainly not limited to turnovers.

Weber got the raw end of the deal after he came back from knee injury - the coaches prevented him from doing ANYTHING. I don't think that was his fault. But at some point, if he didn't like it, then it was up to him to speak up. If he didn't care, then he is indeed a problem. My guess is that he too feels like he no longer has the ability to move like he did as a freshman. And because of that, he is a liability at the most important position we have on the team.

Now, do we have any other QB that could outperform Weber? Who the hell knows - no one else ever gets a chance. But loss after loss, turnover after turnover, stalled drive after stalled drive, overthrow after underthrow, there comes a point when you HAVE to try something else. The Gophers obviously have a loser's mentality with Weber starting at QB. So change it up and see if a spark doesn't happen.

Weber seems like and probably is a good kid. That doesn't make him a winning football player, and doesn't help the football team win games.

By the way, in Penn State's down years the past decade, they started two horrific quarterbacks: Matt Seneca and Adam Morelli. Was it simply coincidence that when Morelli finally graduated, such that JoePa could start a gentleman by the name of Michael Robinson that Penn State rallied together and finally became a good team again?
 





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