Way-too-early look at next year's Big Ten football power rankings (10. Minnesota)

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It’s just nice to have the Hole back in fighting spirits. It was a sad, sad 15 years there. But you beat the two worst Badger teams in the last 20 years (all it took was our backup QB vomiting all over himself) and just like that! The juice is back.

Enjoy the axe, Goofs. See you next year 😉
 

RowTheBoatUrah said:
Oh come on now Bob - we're resorting to personal attacks on me and my family? Or are we doing some projection? I meandered over here during the Luke Fickell hiring to see what our friendly neighbors thought about the hire and I unearthed an absolute treasure trove of delusion and unprompted truly mean-spirited Badger smack talk that was too good not to partake in. This board has become a great source of entertainment for me and the friends I share these engagements with. We take great delight in the delusion of our oldest rival. But to resort to personal attacks, now that's truly empty.
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To say you are thin skinned and shallow is insulting to those who are.
 

bigdsrip said:
It’s just nice to have the Hole back in fighting spirits. It was a sad, sad 15 years there. But you beat the two worst Badger teams in the last 20 years (all it took was our backup QB vomiting all over himself) and just like that! The juice is back.

Enjoy the axe, Goofs. See you next year 😉
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You waited three years to come post this?
 




MNVCGUY said:
Wow....this thread is drawing all the Sconnie trolls lurking around here out into the open....now if only we had a way to make them vanish back under their rocks and stay there.... :)
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Fellas. This entire fanbase is pathetic. One guy comes on here and obviously trolls and the entire board melts down. It’s too easy.
 


RowTheBoatUrah said:
Oh come on now Bob - we're resorting to personal attacks on me and my family? Or are we doing some projection? I meandered over here during the Luke Fickell hiring to see what our friendly neighbors thought about the hire and I unearthed an absolute treasure trove of delusion and unprompted truly mean-spirited Badger smack talk that was too good not to partake in. This board has become a great source of entertainment for me and the friends I share these engagements with. We take great delight in the delusion of our oldest rival. But to resort to personal attacks, now that's truly empty.
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The truth hurts eh skunky!
 




Some guy said:
Of those 4 4 star quarterbacks I’m guessing they’ll only start 1
Which is the same number of 4 star quarterbacks they started last year


They got a wideout who couldn’t get playing time

They got a kicker and an all conference linemen from the 6th best conference in the country. These two are really good gets.



Yeah, they’re going to get guys. We will see how it goes for them.



You are wrong, it isn’t nice to be a wisconsin fan. I might end up on an opposing teams message board like you lol
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This is a great response!!
 

RowTheBoatUrah said:
You know who else doesn't use logic? Vegas. Those guys are dumb clowns....just like Fickell and Wisconsin. I simply don't get how they can't see the unbridled greatness of PJ Fleck and our beloved Gophers.

Wisconsin +6,000
Minnesota +20,000
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You have to remember Wisconsin is the same state that sells worthless pieces of paper to their fans of their NFL franchise, so they can be an “owner” (with no actual ownership rights). Of course they are also going to buy worthless pieces of paper that would pay out if they won a natty (which they’ve never done).
 

RowTheBoatUrah said:
Fellas. This entire fanbase is pathetic. One guy comes on here and obviously trolls and the entire board melts down. It’s too easy.
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Think you are way overestimating how much any of us really care about your BS. I mean it is fun to argue with morons on the internet sometimes but in the end the people who get off on trolling other teams message boards just come off looking pathetic.
 





B10 rank, based on total wins:

‘22 - 4th
‘21 - 5th (3 way tie)
‘20 - 7th (3 way tie)
‘19 - 2nd (2 way tie)
‘18 - 7th (2 way tie)
‘17 - 9th (2 way tie)

10th in “power ranking” next year seems like a crazy stretch.

Granted, Minnesota has a very difficult schedule next year. But that’s not supposed to be reflected in a “power ranking”.
 

RowTheBoatUrah said:
Fellas. This entire fanbase is pathetic. One guy comes on here and obviously trolls and the entire board melts down. It’s too easy.
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Meltdown? Interesting observation that you think this is a meltdown.

But, hey, whatever you need to get your jollies I guess.
 

Meltdown?

I don’t even see Global Warming in this forum.

You want to see meltdown go to the basketball board.
 


Ski U Mah Gopher said:
The meltdown is on hold after last night's win at OSU:)
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yeah, basketball board is definitely more pleasant today. Have been avoiding that place most of the time of late because the negativity is off the charts. I mean I get it but holy cow it is tough to wade through some of the threads over there.
 



I love the 2023 schedule. I think we have built a team to withstand the grind next year will present. For the first time the pollsters will not be able use any schedule bias against us when it comes to rankings.
I really appreciate the passion of all the wonderful GH posters.
 

Why am I not suprised the Cornhuskers are rated above the Gophers?
 

All national and even B1G pundits will see is we lost Morgan and Mo, who are the only FB players they know or care about. They won't see we have a starting QB who proved to be as good, with a higher ceiling than Morgan. They won't see the talent returning on the D side of the ball. They won't see the WR's we got in the transfer portal and now RB.

What they do see is 2 coaches who have national reputations being hired by rivals.

Any writer who has paid attention to MN will know they are a solid team who will be back towards the top of the West next year. Any person even remotely removed will assume the worst.
 

I think MN could be anywhere from 4-11 in the B10 next year. OSU, Michigan, and PSU are the top 3 IMO then MN, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Purdue, Illinois, MSU, and Maryland are all kinda close. If I had to bet I would guess somewhere between 4-6 B10 wins and 7-8 total wins.
 

jonnyganas said:
"Power" rankings have a lot to do with external perceptions.
When the power rankings are in the off-season, the teams that are making external-facing moves (splashy coaching hires, getting lots of transfers from the portal, high recruiting rankings, etc) will be ranked higher.

When the power rankings are in-season, they are based more on tangible results (W/L record, style of play, strength of schedule)

Despite the lip service about maintaining their dominant ground-game identity, WI has basically shook the Etch-A-Sketch and started over with big time coaching hires, highly ranked recruits, and hoarding tons of talent from the transfer portal. That stuff will quickly add up to pre-season hype regardless of whether it actually shows up on the field next season.

MN has mostly stayed the course. Large assistant coaching turnover was dealt with by internal promotions and unproven talent (RB coach is still open). We lost a lot of talent to graduation and are filling primarily with in-development "next-guy-up" players. Our recruiting is stable, but not headline grabbing. Our transfers will fill immediate needs, but they are from lower conference teams and won't create buzz.

tldr; MN at 10 out of 14 for a pre-season "buzz" ranking makes sense, but won't predict our performance this season.
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Why would style of play affect a ranking?
 


To get back to the original topic of how betting sites make money, they make their money by taking a cut from every bet.
They avoid heavy losses by adjusting the spread or the odds based on how the bets come in so the money bet is equally divided as possible.
I spent a goodly portion of my youth at the race track, playing poker in saloons, where the house dealt and cut each pot, and betting at bookie joints.
The betting sites do not care who wins or loses and believe it or not, do not have an innate bias against MN.
 

Plato said:
To get back to the original topic of how betting sites make money, they make their money by taking a cut from every bet.
They avoid heavy losses by adjusting the spread or the odds based on how the bets come in so the money bet is equally divided as possible.
I spent a goodly portion of my youth at the race track, playing poker in saloons, where the house dealt and cut each pot, and betting at bookie joints.
The betting sites do not care who wins or loses and believe it or not, do not have an innate bias against MN.
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Good job refuting an argument nobody made
 

jonnyganas said:
If your team "looks" like an inferior team, you are likely not going to be high in the power rankings.
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I guess I misunderstood your intended meaning of "style." I thought you meant hurry-up versus methodical, pass-oriented v rush-oriented, conservative v high-risk, etc. To me, the inferior/superior scale is measured by points scored v points allowed not by how that is accomplished.
 

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