Until we stop bargain bin shopping for coaches, the result will mostly be the same.

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Sundance Wicks from wyoming would be my guy!, Next in line would be Medved from Colorado State, or Jacobson from Northern Iowa
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Part of the NIL commitment is also on the head coach. When you're an executive, sales is 100% part of your job.
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People that have the kind of big money to throw around at NIL for fun want to bet on winning horses. It is an ego thing, and something they can brag about at parties or on the golf course. They do not want to support a dud and have their contemporaries mocking them for trying to back a loser.

Execs that aren't good at sales don't stay execs for long. If they can't rally investors to the cause and project an image of confidence and competence, they simply will not last. What we saw the other night against North Texas was an organization in disarray, with no identity and seemingly no path towards getting one.
 

DarthGopher said:
People that have the kind of big money to throw around at NIL for fun want to bet on winning horses. It is an ego thing, and something they can brag about at parties or on the golf course. They do not want to support a dud and have their contemporaries mocking them for trying to back a loser.

Execs that aren't good at sales don't stay execs for long. If they can't rally investors to the cause and project an image of confidence and competence, they simply will not last. What we saw the other night against North Texas was an organization in disarray, with no identity and seemingly no path towards getting one.
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Yep. They want to associate their spend with winning and they want to be able to feel like they influenced and made a difference in the decision. If you just pick a coach and then start asking people to help, that might not work. I am guessing that this approach might be a little too much for the elites in our administration to take...a blow to their egos.
 


EasyThere Pilgrim said:
I've been advocating for leaving the Big Ten. We will NEVER be competitive here. No, Dutcher would NOT be competitive in the Big Ten.

Dutcher had ONE great year. BEFORE unlimited free agency. If he was here, he couldn't keep a team together. If the Gophers were in the Mountain West last year...we'd have made the Sweet-16 too...San Diego State beat UAB and Yale before getting routed by 30 by UCONN.
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One great year? In his seven seasons as a head coach, he has two seasons of winning 30+ games and his other five seasons have been 21+ wins. He was in the Sweet 16 last year and in the National Championship game the season before that. He has won three conference titles in a tough league and never missed an NCAA Tourney.

It'll be interesting to see how "easy" it will be for the Gophers to beat Yale this weekend. UAB is picked ahead of North Texas in that league, so maybe beating UAB isn't as easy as you think, either.
 


tjgopher said:
One great year? In his seven seasons as a head coach, he has two seasons of winning 30+ games and his other five seasons have been 21+ wins. He was in the Sweet 16 last year and in the National Championship game the season before that. He has won three conference titles in a tough league and never missed an NCAA Tourney.

It'll be interesting to see how "easy" it will be for the Gophers to beat Yale this weekend. UAB is picked ahead of North Texas in that league, so maybe beating UAB isn't as easy as you think, either.
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They have an interesting couple weeks coming up. Besides playing Gonzaga, SDSU is at Creighton, hosting Oregon and at Texas A&M.
Maybe I'll become a San Diego State fan to watch good basketball.
 

STPGopher said:
I stand corrected. What I was trying to say is that he was an assistant at another school and had some success. Sometimes such coaches are considered for bigger roles such as the one coach Johnson is currently in. I was defending a possible thought consideration that AD Coyle may have had.

I felt that saying he was just a DEI hire dismissed other potential reasons for giving him a look. Ben Johnson - Xavier
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Up and coming.
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TNGophfan said:
You are truly delusional. How I would love to lose to the #1 team in the country in the Sweet 16, even in a rout. We're so far from that it's not even funny. So, he did pretty well last year, even in "free agency".

They host the Zags Monday. No idea, but bet it's a competitive game. Wouldn't it be fun to watch a game like that at Williams Arena.
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It's easy to point out 1 or 2 (out of 300) miracle teams every year and say "See...the Gophers should have a coach like that."

But that's totally delusional. I already said we can have a miracle season once every 30-40 years.

With free agency now, Dutcher will never be able to keep a team together either.
 
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EasyThere Pilgrim said:
It's easy to point out 1 or 2 (out of 300) miracle teams every year and say "See...the Gophers should have a coach like that."

But that's totally delusional. I already said we can have a miracle season once every 30-40 years.

With free agency now, Dutcher will never be able to keep a team together either.
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Maybe not, but I guarantee the teams he puts together and the players he brings in will be much better than what we are doing
 



EasyThere Pilgrim said:
I've been advocating for leaving the Big Ten. We will NEVER be competitive here. No, Dutcher would NOT be competitive in the Big Ten.

Dutcher had ONE great year. BEFORE unlimited free agency. If he was here, he couldn't keep a team together. If the Gophers were in the Mountain West last year...we'd have made the Sweet-16 too...San Diego State beat UAB and Yale before getting routed by 30 by UCONN.
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Preposterous statement of the year award......LMAO
 

I said this in another thread but I'll say it again.....open the checkbook and give Will Wade whatever he wants. His slimy recruiting is perfectly legal in today's game. He will win here.
 

One guy i might put in front of the Medved for the upcoming coaching hire.

Ben McCullum guy knows how to win.
 

gopherhoopsguy said:
One guy i might put in front of the Medved for the upcoming coaching hire.

Ben McCullum guy knows how to win.
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Fans in Iowa are already trying to shove McCaffrey out the front door to land him (he was born in Iowa City)
 



BTW, Dutcher and SDSU beat Creighton handily on neutral court last night. But no, he can't put a team together in current environment and we wouldn't be any better with him. Ha!
 
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howeda7 said:
My current list:

Tier 1:
-Niko Meved
-Craig Smith
-Leon Rice

Tier 2:
-Anthony Grant
-Chris Mack

Tier 3:
-Sundance Wicks
-Bryce Drew
-Will Wade
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Might want to add West Virginia Coach Darian DeVries from Drake and a Midwest guy. Might have to fight Iowa for him.

Just took down #3 Gonzaga.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Might want to add West Virginia Coach Darian DeVries from Drake and a Midwest guy. Might have to fight Iowa for him.

Just took down #3 Gonzaga.
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Iowa can only have 1 of DeVries and McCullum. I'd take the other (or even Fran for God's sake).
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Might want to add West Virginia Coach Darian DeVries from Drake and a Midwest guy. Might have to fight Iowa for him.

Just took down #3 Gonzaga.
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Since he's a first-year coach, he likely would owe a hefty buyout which we likely would be unwilling to pay. Forget DeVries at this point. He's making a very good first impression where he is so I don't know why he would want to leave just yet. Morgantown is kind of a dump for a college town but at least the weather is better there.
 



TNGophfan said:
Iowa can only have 1 of DeVries and McCullum. I'd take the other (or even Fran for God's sake).
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I’ve heard that Devries really wants the Creighton job when MvDermott retires there in a few years
 

Our women’s could guide him through this scenario.
 

bga1 said:
Yep. They want to associate their spend with winning and they want to be able to feel like they influenced and made a difference in the decision. If you just pick a coach and then start asking people to help, that might not work. I am guessing that this approach might be a little too much for the elites in our administration to take...a blow to their egos.
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This is why the administration won't hang the 1997 Final Four banner. It's absence allows for more despair and less aspiration for players. Knowing that this program has been close before, like football and their National Championships, motivates players and attracts recruits.
 
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GopherWeatherGuy said:
Brian Dutcher would have been the easy hire 4 years ago. Coyle wanted it. The old prez did not because of DEI. Now he's off the table with his new contract/buyout.
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Your DEI take on this is laughable, and you know it. I agree about Dutcher but was told by many out here back then that he was unproven and too old.
 



WCGopher said:
Ryan Saunders?
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Good lord no. The first question should always be "would any other power 6 school consider hiring this coach?" if they answer is no, you shouldn't either. No other school would have hired Ben and no other school would give Ryan Saunders a passing glance.

The next Gopher head coach absolutely must have previous college head coaching experience. And more than one year like Pitino.
 


howeda7 said:
Good lord no. The first question should always be "would any other power 6 school consider hiring this coach?" if they answer is no, you shouldn't either. No other school would have hired Ben and no other school would give Ryan Saunders a passing glance.

The next Gopher head coach absolutely must have previous college head coaching experience. And more than one year like Pitino.
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And this is where it's going to be interesting in terms of limiting the pool of candidates (at least those that are acceptable here). You're going to have guys like Kevin Kruger, who I haven't seen mentioned, but is now in his 4th year at UNLV? Is that enough experience? It tends to be group think/the same names eg Craig Smith, Niko Medved. Some are already saying Smith needs improvement at Utah this year. I like both Smith and Medved, but there will be plenty of others. And I do think Mark Coyle knows who they are, and will be better positioned to make the call this time.
 

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