Twins/Vikings/Wild/Wolves Championship appearance drought tracker

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GopherGrit said:
This analysis is false because it ignores the fact that playing so well in the regular season that you get a bye in the first round of the playoff is exactly equivalent to advancing from the first round.
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I presented absolutely no analysis whatsoever.

Just facts. Irrefutable.
 

Ope3 said:
I presented absolutely no analysis whatsoever.

Just facts. Irrefutable.
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I don't trust you. You might end up being correct anyway ... but if you aren't taking first round byes into account, your "facts" may very well be wrong.
 

GopherGrit said:
I don't trust you. You might end up being correct anyway ... but if you aren't taking first round byes into account, your "facts" may very well be wrong.
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Feel free to post whatever facts you want to including Byes.
 

Ope3 said:
Feel free to post whatever facts you want to including Byes.
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I won't lift a finger.

I'll just point out that your "facts" may be wrong, since you employed faulty research.
 

GopherGrit said:
I won't lift a finger.

I'll just point out that your "facts" may be wrong, since you employed faulty research.
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So you're willing to make a point of contention but too lazy to provide any conflicting information.

Good one.

How about just celebrating the Wolves extremely rare achievement in this market, which was the main point of my post to begin with?
 
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Ope3 said:
So you're willing to make a point of contention but too lazy to provide any conflicting information.

Good one.

How about just celebrating the Wolves extremely rare achievement in this market, which was the main point of my post to begin with?
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You're the one who falsely injected the Vikings into the discussion in the first place, as is your want to be a Vikings troll.

You also falsely implied that Vikings had continuous ownership over 1997-2000, when in fact McCombs didn't become the owner until the 1998 season.
 
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Total number of NFL playoff advancements (which obviously includes a first round bye = automatic advancement from the first round):

McCombs (1998 - 2004 seasons):
1998 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
1999 +1 (WC win)
2000 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
2004 +1 (WC win)

Wilfs (2005 - current seasons):
2009 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
2017 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
2019 +1 (WC win)

McCombs up only by one.

Those are the accurate numbers currently for the Vikings
 
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GopherGrit said:
You're the one who falsely injected the Vikings into the discussion in the first place, as is your want to be a Vikings troll.

You also falsely implied that Vikings had continuous ownership over 1997-2001, when in fact McCombs didn't become the owner until the 1998 season.
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Hey math wiz, McCombs taking over in 1998 means the Final 3 Seasons of Playoff wins/advancements of that streak were while he Owned the Vikings.

The good old days. The good old days in my lifetime were any owner pre-Wilfs. I didn't attribute anything originally to McCombs.

Also an error on your part, the 4 Season Playoff Win steak was from 1997 - 2000 (not through 2001).

2001 was not a success. Denny Green was canned and Tice took over as Interim Coach for the finale.
 
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GopherGrit said:
Total number of NFL playoff advancements (which obviously includes a first round bye = automatic advancement from the first round):

McCombs (1998 - 2004 seasons):
1998 +1 (WC win)
1999 +1 (WC win)
2000 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
2004 +1 (WC win)

Wilfs (2005 - current seasons):
2009 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
2017 +2 (bye, Divisional win)
2019 +1 (WC win)

Currently tied.

Those are the accurate numbers currently for the Vikings
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You made an error omitting the 15-1 Vikings #1 Seed Bye in 1998 into the Division Round which they Won. You shortchanged Red's Purple Pride squad 1 "playoff advancement".

So not Tied. Wilfs behind according to your metric.

Wow, that really makes the Wilf Ownership look horrible. Currently 21 seasons to achieve less than what McCombs did in 8.

Plus the Vikings did advance 3 seasons in a row under McCombs (adding on to one under the group lead by Roger Headrick) as pointed out in the post celebrating this year's Wolves achievement.

The Wilfs have not even made the Playoffs in 3 consecutive seasons, much less Win games in back-to-back campaigns.

Uffda. Horrible 2+ decades currently.

That #1 Seed in 1998 was the only one for the Vikings since 1977 under Max Winter, if memory serves correct.
 
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Ope3 said:
Hey math wiz, McCombs taking over in 1998 means the Final 3 Seasons of Playoff wins/advancements of that streak were while he Owned the Vikings.

The good old days. The good old days in my lifetime were any owner pre-Wilfs. I didn't attribute anything originally to McCombs.

Also an error on your part, the 4 Season Playoff Win steak was from 1997 - 2000 (not through 2001).

2001 was not a success. Denny Green was canned and Tice took over as Interim Coach for the finale.
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I never said it wasn't three consecutive season of making the Divisional round. I correctly pointed out your false implication on ownership continuity.

Thanks for noticing my one digit typo, corrected.
 

Ope3 said:
You made an error omitting the 15-1 Vikings #1 Seed Bye in 1998 into the Division Round which they Won. You shortchanged Red's Purple Pride squad 1 "playoff advancement".

So not Tied. Wilfs behind according to your metric.

Wow, that really makes the Wilf Ownership look horrible. Currently 21 seasons to achieve less than what McCombs did in 8.

Plus the Vikings did advance 3 seasons in a row under McCombs (adding on to one under the group lead by Roger Headrick) as pointed out in the post celebrating this year's Wolves achievement.

The Wilfs have not even made the Playoffs in 3 consecutive seasons, much less Win games in back-to-back campaigns.

Uffda. Horrible 2+ decades currently.

That #1 Seed in 1998 was the only one for the Vikings since 1977 under Max Winter, if memory serves correct.
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I accidently looked at the 1997 season instead of the 1998 season, thanks for correcting me, fixed now. McCombs is up one.


McCombs bought into a great team and coach, then ditched the franchise after only seven years of ownership.

That's not stable ownership, which is key to being a great franchise. The Wilfs have offered stability at ownership while being top three ownership in the league. It doesn't get much better than that!

The Vikings and its fanbase are very fortunate to have them.
 

GopherGrit said:
I never said it wasn't three consecutive season of making the Divisional round. I correctly pointed out your false implication on ownership continuity.

Thanks for noticing my one digit typo, corrected.
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Again I never stated anything regarding "ownership continuity", regarding 1997 - 2000.

I simply stated pre-Wilf was the "good old days". Ripping the Wilfs does not equate to lauding McCombs or anyone else, specifically.
 

GopherGrit said:
I accidently looked at the 1997 season instead of the 1998 season, thanks for correcting me, fixed now. McCombs is up one.
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You're welcome. I genuinely appreciate the acknowledgement.

GopherGrit said:
McCombs bought into a great team and coach, then ditched the franchise after only seven years of ownership.

That's not stable ownership, which is key to being a great franchise. The Wilfs have offered stability at ownership while being top three ownership in the league. It doesn't get much better than that!

The Vikings and its fanbase are very fortunate to have them.
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Stable track record of non-success for the current Vikings Ownership group.

There is undoubtedly "better than that" for lots of fanbases across the NFL. Some even make it to Canton, OH.
 





So if the Wolves or Wild cannot make it to their respective finals, that will be a combined 57 straight playoff appearances without making it to a finals/championship.

Twins 10
Vikings 17
Wolves 14
Wild 15
N Stars 1
 

GophersInIowa said:
So if the Wolves or Wild cannot make it to their respective finals, that will be a combined 57 straight playoff appearances without making it to a finals/championship.

Twins 10
Vikings 17
Wolves 14
Wild 15
N Stars 1
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Conversely, between 1965, which was the 1st Playoff appearance for any of the existing franchises though 1991 when the streak began, the local teams made it to the Championship Round on 9 occasions in 36 Postseason attempts.

North Stars - 16 Playoffs / 2 Stanley Cups
Vikings - 15 Playoffs / 4 Super Bowls
Twins - 5 Playoffs / 3 World Series
Wolves - Zip (did not exist until 1989)

Granted there were fewer levels of Playoffs. The 1965 Twins advanced to the World Series by finishing 1st in the American League Standings. The 1987 & 1991 Twins advanced just by winning the ALCS.

No Wild Card round for the NFL either until 1978.
 

Two more notches in the LOSERVILLE record of not even making a championship let alone winning a title.

Anyone just under 40 and under has only known pathetic pro sports.
 

Loserville USA

And we don't even make up for it as the best state to live in anymore.
 


The flowering crab trees in the tc area have never had more flowers.
 

It's not the most epic collapse on the list since the team was already down 3 games to 1 but blowing a 3-0 lead in an elimination game by giving up 3 goals in the final 7:25 of game time has to at least warrant it's inclusion on the list of choke jobs/heartbreak, especially on the hockey side.
 

DarrenTheGreek said:
It's not the most epic collapse on the list since the team was already down 3 games to 1 but blowing a 3-0 lead in an elimination game by giving up 3 goals in the final 7:25 of game time has to at least warrant it's inclusion on the list of choke jobs/heartbreak, especially on the hockey side.
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With the Wild drawing first blood just 34 seconds into the game I was positive this was at least going to Game 6. Never occurred to me this could be the finale until the Avs closed it 3-2 with 3:33 to go. I really should have known better. That's on me.

After the lead was cut to 1, the switched flipped and I knew there was very little chance the Series was coming back to St Paul.
 




The Wolves elimination is going to be far less dramatic than their immediate streak extending predecessor.
 


BleedGopher said:

Go Gophers!!
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Nights like tonight are cause to lament the missed opportunity for the Wolves to end this in 2024 against the Mavs.

Had home court advantage. Lost one possession heartbreakers in Games 1 & 2 and could not recover.
 


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