Tubby and Maturi To Determine Royce's Status Today

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GopherLady said:
...let the record show, I never any point of what the punishment for Royce should be. I've not done this, because I'm guessing we know a fraction of the big picture, and Tubby knows a lot more, so I trust him to do the right thing. I don't think I could make a jugdement based on the few details and rumors we know.
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Good point.

I also think that neither Maturi nor Tubby will be looking at the resolution of White's status as simply a "character-building" issue or a "we need the wins" decision. It's going to be a synthesis of those factors. And it's likely going to be influenced by a number of related issues such as effect upon the team, consistency within the athletic department, etc.

As I've said before, the "just win" crowd would probably be happier switching their fan-dom to the pro teams. (well, maybe not the T-wolves for a couple of years)
 

SelectionSunday said:
IMO, the combination of Royce's talent and his past behavior (HS & post HS) don't point to him being long for a college campus. Based on history (that's all we have to go by), I think Royce has a difficult task remaining in the program for 2-3 days/weeks/months, let alone 2-3 years.
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I agree. I'll be shocked if he's here past April 2011 even in the best-case scenario. It'd be best for him and the program to be here 3-4 years, but I just don't see it happening for all of the above reasons. Either he'll keep his nose clean, play great, and his 'friends' will convince him he's the next big thing and must to the 'the league' immediately or he'll get himself in more trouble.
 

Twitter updates say that Bostick will play Saturday and Mbakwe and White's status is unchanged.

Have to agree. Let's *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# or get off the pot here with Royce.
 

In terms of eligibility for next semester, does anyone know for sure that Royce has been attending classes as required?
 



In terms of eligibility for next semester, does anyone know for sure that Royce has been attending classes as required?
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Per Mike Max the other day

While he awaits his standing on the team, the word is Gopher basketball player Royce White has been doing well academically.
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Thanks

That tells me a lot about whether a student-athlete should be given a second chance.
 

Blizzard said:
Per Mike Max the other day
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Good to hear. I don't think academics has ever been the problem, just his discipline. He had good grades in hs and scored well on his ACT (I think 24).
 

Not to beat a dead horse here, but honestly, does anyone know who is still investigating this laptop theft? The U Police? And whoever it is, what can they possibly still be doing? Interviewing every person who was in that dorm that night? What is that going to accomplish? This has to be the most over-investigated petty college dorm theft in history. I'm not excusing whoever did it, but stuff gets stolen from college dorm rooms all the time. I always understood that if you left your room unlocked and something was taken you were SOL. If the room had been locked then you took it up with your roomate. This is not that complicated. Geeze.
 



Anecdote:

We had stuff stolen all the time in my dorms. People left their doors open regularly and we would just walk in. The RA's were always telling us not to keep the outside doors propped open, but it was easy to get into any dorm or building anyway. All you had to know was which door could be opened with a credit card. It became so common place that my friend bought us blank keys to use because we were breaking our cards in half (I still keep it on my chain). When things went missing, Public Safety (we didn't have our own police) would tell us to call the police. The police wouldn't do anything.
 

Let's try and use some logic here. I know that is beyond the capability of many of you who can only think with your penis or your stomach (not necessarily in that order). The Adminstration knows everything that they are ever going to be able to find out about the laptop incident. There are only two possibilities going forward: 1) Royce White was in no way involved; 2) White was either involved with stealing the laptop, or he is in trouble by his mere presence in the dorm at that particular time.

If White did nothing wrong that night the Administration would have already publicly announced that information and we would no longer be talking about it. On the other hand, the evidence might indicate that White was implicated in one of the following ways:

1) He stole the laptop

2) He was with the person(s) who stole the laptop

3) He knows who stole the laptop, but is not talking

4) He was in the dorm without authorization or in violation of a restriction on his movements

If one of the above situations is true, the Administration was never going to finalize or publize the action they plan to take against White until the MOA theft and assault case was completed. Any discipline against White will necessarily have to include his actions during both incidents.

Since the MOA case was not resolved until yesterday, the U was not ready to issue its final determination concerning White's punishment. However, as I stated above, if White was totally blameless in the laptop incident, the U would have already made that announcement. Because they have not done so can only be bad news for White and his GopherHole cheerleaders.
 

Let's try and use some logic here.
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At this point I'm not sure if any theory is more plausible than another. According to the statements from his attorney Royce wasn't involved and is cooperating in the investigation. At this point, aside from it taking waaaaay to long, that's good enough for me. If he hasn't been arrested or charged six weeks after this happened it would seem unlikely he will be.

I've given up guessing at what's going to happen. :)
 

IIRC, both local papers stated earlier this week something to the effect that Royce's lawyer had not allowed Royce to talk to U officials about the laptop incident. They also reported that U officials want to talk to Royce as part of their investigation and that they have only one suspect. I'm hoping Royce is not that person. Clearly, Maturi's and Tubby's hands are tied until that investigation is complete.
 



The most complete description of the status of the investigation was from the Pioneer Press:

University police told athletics officials White was seen in Territorial Hall on Nov. 7 when a laptop computer was stolen and identified him as a possible suspect. White has not been arrested or charged with a crime, though investigators want to question him further about the incident.

"He provided a limited statement, but we're working with his attorney to schedule an interview to obtain whatever information he might have," said University Police Deputy Chief Chuck Miner.
White's attorney, F. Clayton Tyler, said his client denies stealing the laptop.

"This is a young athlete who hasn't done anything in connection with this particular computer theft case and he'd like to get it behind him so he can continue with his educational opportunities and his athletic opportunities," Tyler told reporters outside the Edina courthouse.

According to the lawyer, White was cooperating with police and hoped to clear his name soon.

"Royce has already made a statement to police. My office has taken a number of statements. I'm going to be supplying the police with those statements," Tyler said.

"The police have asked Royce to take a look at some videotape. We're doing everything that we can in order to put this matter behind us."
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http://www.twincities.com/ci_13908064?source=most_viewed

In addition, the Strib reported:

Deputy Chief Chuck Miner of the university police said he cannot identify a suspect in a case. In the laptop matter, Miner said, "We have been in discussions with our only known suspect's attorney and we hope to be able to interview the suspect in the near future."
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http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/78348802.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Reading these two items together, it would appear Royce is the only known suspect.
 

EmDub -off-topic...

EmDub...

regarding our past dust up pertaining the def of petty misemeanor, you were correct and I was wrong. I also apologize for suggesting you might be a CG sockpuppet.
 

how is it possible that UMPD are still able to claim themselves as cops, a labtop investigation is taking this long, how long would a real investigation take?
 

EmDub said:
The most complete description of the status of the investigation was from the Pioneer Press:



http://www.twincities.com/ci_13908064?source=most_viewed

In addition, the Strib reported:



http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/78348802.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Reading these two items together, it would appear Royce is the only known suspect.
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Thanks for putting these two things together it makes a bit more sense now. If Royce's lawyer is stone-walling them to deal with the MOA thing, the delay makes at least some sense. However, they seem to indicate he's given them a brief statement in which I assume he denied the accusation. They also don't seem to have enough evidence to arrest him, or they'd have done it already. I'm not exactly sure what they think they're going to gain from doing a more 'extensive' interview with him? I guess they could try to give him enough rope to hang himself, etc. but I still think the amount of time and effort being wasted on an indicent that would have been completely ignored by U Police 99% of the time is unjustified.
 

Unjustified? This is F*CKED UP! Didn't she get the laptop back? It's as if they are trying to find something, anything that they can pin on RW...in a case they would've usually long ago forgotten about. Sad.
 

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