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Ok its time to make the push for Tim Miles!! He has bounced around alot over his career so to ask him to come to minnesota after one season in Neb i dont think is out of the question. This guy gets turning around a program he has doen it everywhere he has been.
 


gopherhoopsguy said:
Ok its time to make the push for Tim Miles!! He has bounced around alot over his career so to ask him to come to minnesota after one season in Neb i dont think is out of the question. This guy gets turning around a program he has doen it everywhere he has been.
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Yes it is.
 


I like Tim Miles, but I think I'd pass.

This is a guy who has gone 86 - 106 and 33 - 63 in his 6 seasons as basketball coach at a major university. I can't imagine that some of the people who support Tim Miles would have any interest in him if he wasn't a guest on KFAN and didn't have the local connections. He might turn around Nebraska and I think he's a decent coach, but he'd have to be way under the likes of even Anthony Grant. I couldn't imagine an argument where Tim Miles is more qualified than Anthony Grant and he's pretty much despised on this board.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
I like Tim Miles, but I think I'd pass.

This is a guy who has gone 86 - 106 and 33 - 63 in his 6 seasons as basketball coach at a major university. I can't imagine that some of the people who support Tim Miles would have any interest in him if he wasn't a guest on KFAN and didn't have the local connections. He might turn around Nebraska and I think he's a decent coach, but he'd have to be way under the likes of even Anthony Grant. I couldn't imagine an argument where Tim Miles is more qualified than Anthony Grant and he's pretty much despised on this board.
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Agree. Never really bought into the Tim Miles hype.
 

Bet he bring Nebraska to a sweet 16 before Tubby brings MN
 


Hire Dutch for a year until the practice facility is built.
 



If Miles left Nebraska after one year when they gave him this big chance he is a jerk.
 

Any other year, he'd be a possibility. Minnesota is still a much better job than Nebraska, but Miles is too classy bail on them this soon.
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
I like Tim Miles, but I think I'd pass.

This is a guy who has gone 86 - 106 and 33 - 63 in his 6 seasons as basketball coach at a major university.
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If he's taking over at Kentucky, you can just look at straight numbers when it comes to his record. When he's taking over at powerhouses like Colorado State and Nebraska, you might want to look at the team he inherited and if he improved them. Since we can't really tell that with Nebraska yet, let's just look at Colorado State.

Year before he came: 17-13 6-10 T-6th
1st year: 7-25 0-16 9th
2nd year: 9-22 4-12 8th
3rd year: 16-16 7-9 5th CBI 1st Round
4th year: 19-13 9-7 4th NIT 1st Round
5th year: 20-12 8-6 4th NCAA 2nd Round

If you look at his previous experience at NDSU (D2 moving to D1 when he was there) and SMSU, you'll see a similar trend: improving record out and in conference, improving finish in conference, and improving postseason appearances each year he's there. It's kind of unfair to just look at straight record when someone is taking over a bad program.
 



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If he's taking over at Kentucky, you can just look at straight numbers when it comes to his record. When he's taking over at powerhouses like Colorado State and Nebraska, you might want to look at the team he inherited and if he improved them. Since we can't really tell that with Nebraska yet, let's just look at Colorado State.

Year before he came: 17-13 6-10 T-6th
1st year: 7-25 0-16 9th
2nd year: 9-22 4-12 8th
3rd year: 16-16 7-9 5th CBI 1st Round
4th year: 19-13 9-7 4th NIT 1st Round
5th year: 20-12 8-6 4th NCAA 2nd Round

If you look at his previous experience at NDSU (D2 moving to D1 when he was there) and SMSU, you'll see a similar trend: improving record out and in conference, improving finish in conference, and improving postseason appearances each year he's there. It's kind of unfair to just look at straight record when someone is taking over a bad program.
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Oh Oh, a new really really anonymous poster on a board that is all anonymous, we now have ...

Just remember, everything you say on the internet has to be truth. So if you tell a lie, your moniker will become: ...---...
 

... said:
If he's taking over at Kentucky, you can just look at straight numbers when it comes to his record. When he's taking over at powerhouses like Colorado State and Nebraska, you might want to look at the team he inherited and if he improved them. Since we can't really tell that with Nebraska yet, let's just look at Colorado State.

Year before he came: 17-13 6-10 T-6th
1st year: 7-25 0-16 9th
2nd year: 9-22 4-12 8th
3rd year: 16-16 7-9 5th CBI 1st Round
4th year: 19-13 9-7 4th NIT 1st Round
5th year: 20-12 8-6 4th NCAA 2nd Round

If you look at his previous experience at NDSU (D2 moving to D1 when he was there) and SMSU, you'll see a similar trend: improving record out and in conference, improving finish in conference, and improving postseason appearances each year he's there. It's kind of unfair to just look at straight record when someone is taking over a bad program.
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So he took a 6 win team and improved it by 2-3 wins over the course of 4-5 years? (looking at conference record only)
 

mattw1067 said:
So he took a 6 win team and improved it by 2-3 wins over the course of 4-5 years?
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Oh, but, but, but, the new Coach at CSU was in charge of the 5th year team, not Tim Miles.

And the year after he left, Saul Phillips was in charge at NDSU when they made the Dance.

:banghead:
 

He took a team that had gone to the NCAA tournament three times since 1969 and none in the four before he came and built them into a team that went twice in two years. Granted the team that went this year was coached by Larry Eustachy, but those were his recruits. Also the 6 win year was the best they'd had 6 years which doesn't mean we should discount it, but they weren't really competing in the Mountain West before him.
 

Dr.Don said:
Oh, but, but, but, the new Coach at CSU was in charge of the 5th year team, not Tim Miles.

And the year after he left, Saul Phillips was in charge at NDSU when they made the Dance.

:banghead:
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Just like Tubby Smith was in charge when Kentucky won that national championship, right?
 

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Just like Tubby Smith was in charge when Kentucky won that national championship, right?
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You were using Tim Miles. We got you in a gotcha, don't try get out of it that easily. Hang loose, buddy.
 

When Tim took over at CSU the program was in ruins.

The program has come light years from Miles' first season, when CSU went 0-16 in the conference.

"We were left with what could have been the fifth-best intramural team on a lot of campuses," Miles said of the 2007-08 team. The Rams needed the best intramural player on campus, current senior starting guard Adam Nigon, to merit Miles's claim of fifth-best.
Why so short-handed?

"Apparently our first meeting didn't go well," Miles said of the mass exodus after meeting his team in March 2007. "It was a melee for the next six weeks."
Of the nine inherited players with eligibility, seven left. Most transferred or quit playing. Freshman forward Xavier Kilby was kicked off the team after firing a gun into a couch during an argument with a teammate.

"We had to get rid of guys," Miles said. "The only smart guy was Jason Smith. He entered the NBA draft."


Read more: Miles gives win-starved CSU fans reason to cheer - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/csu/ci_17440080#ixzz2PBtmp8N6
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Also Tim Miles coached at CSU for five years, not sure what Dr. Don is talking about.

That said Tim has a new arena, practice arena and private plane at Nebraska...plus an athletic admin that is really supportive of him. There is no way he leaves.
 

FargoBison said:
When Tim took over at CSU the program was in ruins.



Also Tim Miles coached at CSU for five years, not sure what Dr. Don is talking about.

That said Tim has a new arena, practice arena and private plane at Nebraska...plus an athletic admin that is really supportive of him. There is no way he leaves.
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That is exactly my point....A good coach grows, as does his team. But ... seemed to think we should try pilfer him.
 

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He took a team that had gone to the NCAA tournament three times since 1969 and none in the four before he came and built them into a team that went twice in two years. Granted the team that went this year was coached by Larry Eustachy, but those were his recruits. Also the 6 win year was the best they'd had 6 years which doesn't mean we should discount it, but they weren't really competing in the Mountain West before him.
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Exactly, Tim was NOT Coaching them, Eustachy was. Just like the reference you made about Tubby National. Now, do you want to use who's recruits they were, or who was their coach? You have done both.
 

... Would you use the NDSU team that made the Dance a success for Miles, (the year after he left) or a success for Saul Phillips, who was the coach at the time?
 

Dr.Don said:
You were using Tim Miles. We got you in a gotcha, don't try get out of it that easily. Hang loose, buddy.
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Not sure where you "got me." I was making the point that many on this forum point out that Tubby won the NC with Pitino's recruits, and that Pitino therefore deserves some credit for that NC. This is analogous to Tim Miles deserving some credit for Colorado State's success this year, and as you pointed out, NDSU's success when they went to the dance (which was actually the second year after he left).

FargoBison said:
That said Tim has a new arena, practice arena and private plane at Nebraska...plus an athletic admin that is really supportive of him. There is no way he leaves.
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I agree, it's not gonna happen. I just wish he had stayed at Colorado State another year so he'd be an option for us this year.
 

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Not sure where you "got me." I was making the point that many on this forum point out that Tubby won the NC with Pitino's recruits, and that Pitino therefore deserves some credit for that NC. This is analogous to Tim Miles deserving some credit for Colorado State's success this year, and as you pointed out, NDSU's success when they went to the dance (which was actually the second year after he left).



I agree, it's not gonna happen. I just wish he had stayed at Colorado State another year so he'd be an option for us this year.[/QUOTE]


OK, now I got it. You are a CSU fan, and good for you, and a Tim Miles fan, good for you. To be honest, before the Gophers got Tubby Smith, I was hoping for him to come directly from NDSU to the Gophers. So, I guess we now agree on something.
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Dr.Don said:
Exactly, Tim was NOT Coaching them, Eustachy was. Just like the reference you made about Tubby National. Now, do you want to use who's recruits they were, or who was their coach? You have done both.
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Dr.Don said:
... Would you use the NDSU team that made the Dance a success for Miles, (the year after he left) or a success for Saul Phillips, who was the coach at the time?
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I don't think you have to assign all the credit to one or the other. Saul Phillips and Larry Eustachy should get credit for leading their teams to the dance, regardless of who recruited the team in the same way that Tubby should get credit for winning a NC. That said, Miles should get credit for having recruited those kids and having turned each of those programs from relatively unsuccessful programs into ones that were capable of going to the tourney.
 

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I don't think you have to assign all the credit to one or the other. Saul Phillips and Larry Eustachy should get credit for leading their teams to the dance, regardless of who recruited the team in the same way that Tubby should get credit for winning a NC. That said, Miles should get credit for having recruited those kids and having turned each of those programs from relatively unsuccessful programs into ones that were capable of going to the tourney.
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You are right on, ... The hangup is, the Gophers will NOT offer Tim Miles (which they shouldn't), AND he would not leave Nebraska (which he shouldn't). End of argument?
 

Dr.Don said:
OK, now I got it. You are a CSU fan, and good for you, and a Tim Miles fan, good for you. To be honest, before the Gophers got Tubby Smith, I was hoping for him to come directly from NDSU to the Gophers. So, I guess we now agree on something.
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Tim Miles fan? Yeah, because I think he's a good coach. CSU fan? Only because he was there.
 

Dr.Don said:
You are right on, ... The hangup is, the Gophers will NOT offer Tim Miles (which they shouldn't), AND he would not leave Nebraska (which he shouldn't). End of argument?
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Totally agree.
 

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Tim Miles fan? Yeah, because I think he's a good coach. CSU fan? Only because he was there.
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I can live with that, ... I am a Minnesota Gopher fan, hence I am a fan of whoever the Coach ends up being.
 

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