TIM BREWSTER HAS DESTROYED MINNESOTA FOOTBALL

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He has taken a mediocre program, driven it into the ground, and left it for dead. This is an absolute disgrace.

FIRE BS'TER NOW :mad:
 




calminnfan said:
Wasn't that much to destroy.
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Mason's team was at least respectable and occasionally pulled the upset and had some ranked teams, not to mention the best run game in the nation.

Now we're just pathetic. Talentedly pathetic.
 



calminnfan said:
Wasn't that much to destroy.
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Agreed. Mason was 32 - 48 in the Big 10. He had an extremely below average record during his 10 years. Minnesota football was destroyed before either Brewster and Mason.
 

magpie said:
Mason's team was at least respectable and occasionally pulled the upset and had some ranked teams, not to mention the best run game in the nation.

Now we're just pathetic. Talentedly pathetic.
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With Mason we had respectability, now, holy cow, can it get any worse.

The question I have, would you trust the person that hired Brewster to hire the next coach.
 

For Christ's sake, SHUT UP about Mason.

MASON IS NOT OUR COACH ANYMORE.

TIM BREWSTER is our coach.

AND HE SUCKS!!!!
 



Mason was 32 - 48 in the Big 10. He had an extremely below average record during his 10 years
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He is also had three straight bowl wins and two 8 win seasons and a 10 win season.

I know its only slightly better than two 1-11 seasons in 4 years.
 

Destroyed? What do you mean destroyed? There still are 6 national championships to brag about.
 

But when we fired mason, the expectation was that we were prepared to take the next step upward.

Why not apply that mindset to Brew's tenure. This program needs to take a step upward and Brewster can't do it. Bring someone else in here.

AND DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In other words, we should let him take the bus (or helicopter or whetever he uses to get to places) back to Minn just so that he can collect his things and go crying back to Texas.
 

Brewster equals Wacker. Lets get a real coach this time!
 



gopherweirdo said:
He is also had three straight bowl wins and two 8 win seasons and a 10 win season.

I know its only slightly better than two 1-11 seasons in 4 years.
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He was also the coach of the greatest collapse in bowl history

He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory so often that even a late 20 point lead was worrisome.
 

MrGopher said:
But when we fired mason, the expectation was that we were prepared to take the next step upward.

Why not apply that mindset to Brew's tenure. This program needs to take a step upward and Brewster can't do it. Bring someone else in here.

AND DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In other words, we should let him take the bus (or helicopter or whetever he uses to get to places) back to Minn just so that he can collect his things and go crying back to Texas.
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He has certainly taken a huge step into the upper echelon of ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.
 

He was also the coach of the greatest collapse in bowl history

He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory so often that even a late 20 point lead was worrisome.
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What is this "victory and "lead" you speak of? I dont understand these words.
 

A good running game and OL was the only thing to credit Mason with and those would let him down at times. Respectability and Mediocrity are two heads on the same coin. Mason never could figure out what to do with Defense and given what was at MN when he was fired, he was not going to make it any better.

Gophers rolled the dice with Brew and missed. Now the Admin needs to ask if they are going to prioritize FB and get it right.
 

Mason may have been 32-48 in conference but that's winning 40%. Brewster is 6-20 going on 6-27. Mason at least won at Ann Arbor, Columbus, Happy Valley, had eight All-Americans, went 8-3 and 9-3 in '99 and '03, regular season, and Mason did not go winless against Iowa and Wisconsin.
 


SickAndTiredOfLosingToWI said:
For Christ's sake, SHUT UP about Mason.

MASON IS NOT OUR COACH ANYMORE.

TIM BREWSTER is our coach.

AND HE SUCKS!!!!
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The mistake people are making is comparing Brewster to Mason. Mason was fired because of his attitude after a historical loss.

We should be comparing Brewster to the other coaches that could have been hired. The names bandied around were: Lane Kiffen, Bo Pelini, and Charlie Strong.

Strong is in his 1st season at Louisville and is 2-2, losing to the 2 BCS teams they have played.

Kiffen did an admirable job at Tennessee, taking a team that was below .500 in 2008(including a HC loss to Wyoming) to 7-6 and a Bowl Game in 2009.

The big one is Bo Pelini. The job he has done bringing the Huskers back shows he can coach.
 

It's not Brewster's fault, or even his predecessors. It was Malcolm Moosand his admunistration in the mid 60's who 'wanted to de-emphasize sports', He effectively did that and it has been successful for approaching 50 years. The only thing that will save Gopher football is if influencial alumni/donors rise up and cut the school off until they improve. That won't happen. The profitability of football is the same even if they continue to finish dead last due to B10 revenue sharing. They could field an intramural team with student coaches and do as well (actually much better) financially.
 

idagopher said:
It's not Brewster's fault, or even his predecessors. It was Malcolm Moosand his admunistration in the mid 60's who 'wanted to de-emphasize sports', He effectively did that and it has been successful for approaching 50 years. The only thing that will save Gopher football is if influencial alumni/donors rise up and cut the school off until they improve. That won't happen. The profitability of football is the same even if they continue to finish dead last due to B10 revenue sharing. They could field an intramural team with student coaches and do as well (actually much better) financially.
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The U may have deemphasized sports in the 60's, but that doesn't have anything to do with today. We've spent money on first class facilities. Cutting of donations will just make the matter worse. Threatening to cut off funding until football does better assumes that the U knows how to get better at football, but is, for some reason refusing to do so. We have the new stadium, we have a locker room that is a palace. The dome is GONE.

The U took a gamble in hiring Brewster. That gamble didn't pay off. Minnesota football is not destroyed. Brewster has 6 more games left and then he is GONE. We'll have a new coach in 2 months.

An intramural team is one that only plays teams from the same university. By definition, we could not play a Big Ten schedule with an intramural team. I can only guess that you meant a team made up of random players from the campus. This team may be bad, but it would be much worse with some random players, and no, it would be much worse financially, no one would attend.
 

No Tim Brewster has not destroyed Minnesota football. We've been horrible for a long, long time. Grinning Glen Mason somehow got TEN (TEN!!!) years and produced a 6-14!!! record against Iowa and Wisconsin including many horrific blowouts (occasionally when the Gophers were favored to win the games). Wacker was terrible before him, and like Mason, got way too much time.

The good thing is that it seems like Gopher fans have FINALLY had enough and won't accept years and years of crap anymore.
 

6-14 looks pretty good right now

Actually the performances at Iowa and Wisconsin, especially when Mason had decent teams was one reason I was OK with his firing.

I was fine with firing Mason if they hired a competent coach. I knew they did not hire a competent coach immediately after Timmy started flapping his gums.

Why Pelini wasn't offered the job is the question Maturi should be asked when he is told he will have nothing to do with hiring the next coach.
 

MrGopher said:
But when we fired mason, the expectation was that we were prepared to take the next step upward.

Why not apply that mindset to Brew's tenure. This program needs to take a step upward and Brewster can't do it. Bring someone else in here.

AND DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In other words, we should let him take the bus (or helicopter or whetever he uses to get to places) back to Minn just so that he can collect his things and go crying back to Texas.
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He hasn't even come close to where Mason had us.
 

We weren't prepared to take the next step upward, because the program had been trending downward for a long time. Look at the recruiting classes that Mason put together late in his tenure and how few of those guys played D-1 football anywhere. The results on the field and in recruiting were consistently getting worse. The University has a habit of waiting too long to move on firing coaches. Also, 6-14 against Iowa and Wisconsin does not look "good" compared to what Brewster has accomplished. Both resumes against rivals deserve an "F" grade, although Brewster's "F" is lower than Mason's. Mason gets maybe a "D" for his overall resume through ten years while Brewster gets an "F" for four years.
 

gopherweirdo said:
He is also had three straight bowl wins and two 8 win seasons and a 10 win season.

I know its only slightly better than two 1-11 seasons in 4 years.
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his 10 win team was down 40-6 at Iowa in the third quarter.

And lost his last seven at Iowa and Wisconsin by an average of 24.

His first 8 win team didn't play 6-2 Michigan or 6-2 Michigan State.

His second eight win team lost to Iowa by 24 and Wisconsin by 18.

Glory days indeed
 


Don't forget about losses to teams like N.D. State and South Dakota who were still in the transition period from D-II to FCS. (And a 10-9 win against N.D. State.)
 

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EG#9 said:
We weren't prepared to take the next step upward, because the program had been trending downward for a long time. Look at the recruiting classes that Mason put together late in his tenure and how few of those guys played D-1 football anywhere. The results on the field and in recruiting were consistently getting worse. The University has a habit of waiting too long to move on firing coaches. Also, 6-14 against Iowa and Wisconsin does not look "good" compared to what Brewster has accomplished. Both resumes against rivals deserve an "F" grade, although Brewster's "F" is lower than Mason's. Mason gets maybe a "D" for his overall resume through ten years while Brewster gets an "F" for four years.
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If you cannot coach at all, recruits do not matter too much.

You again have missed the point. They fired a competent coach in Mason and did not hire a competent, but better coach like Pelini.
Instead,Maturi hired the lunchroom Coordinator to run the school district with predictable results.

Being a big time college coach is probably harder than being an NFL coach. Brewster probably would have fared slightly better had be been hired to run the Broncos. He still would have been fired, though.

Maturi screwed the pooch, and it was obvious that the Brewster hire would be a train wreck.
 

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