This is bad, this is bad, this is bad...

We were 6-7 (5-7 vs bcs teams) and ended the season scoring 1 TD for every 25 offensive possesions. It was a bad year that ended very badly.
 

We were 6-7 (5-7 vs bcs teams) and ended the season scoring 1 TD for every 25 offensive possesions. It was a bad year that ended very badly.

In my 25+ years of watching football, I've always thought the most important metric was W-L. I am surprised to learn that it is now offensive efficiency. Thank you for updating me on this. Don't be concerned with adequate publicity - I will be sure to alert the media.
 

In my 25+ years of watching football, I've always thought the most important metric was W-L. I am surprised to learn that it is now offensive efficiency. Thank you for updating me on this. Don't be concerned with adequate publicity - I will be sure to alert the media.

You just can not forget the style points. :rolleyes:
 

I see the Badgers this way: They'll score a pile of points, but they could have problems keeping people from scoring.

I can see the 63rd Axe (which I will be attending) being another 38-35 or 42-39 type of game, where (again!) the team who capitalizes on more of the other's mistakes wins.
 

MN vs WI

here's the deal, BB, while we may not like him, has built a solid program. Granted he inherited a solid program from BA. The proof is in the pudding, and the Badgers keep beating us and playing in a top tier bowl game. Until that trend stops, we have no business critisizing him. John Clay is going to be running at us like a tank, and we'd better be more concerned about stopping him, than saying what a poor coach BB is. imho.
 


If he such a poor coach then how did he win 10 games? How can Brewster not beat him? That kinda crap just makes us look petty as a fan base. We can hate them all we want but saying BB is a poor coach makes us look silly. BB is a poor coach then what is Brewster?
 

here's the deal, BB, while we may not like him, has built a solid program. Granted he inherited a solid program from BA. The proof is in the pudding, and the Badgers keep beating us and playing in a top tier bowl game. Until that trend stops, we have no business critisizing him. John Clay is going to be running at us like a tank, and we'd better be more concerned about stopping him, than saying what a poor coach BB is. imho.

This. It sucks, but we can't say much until we beat them. Even then, you know what they will say, "It's just one game." "We got lucky." etc.
 

Interesting take on it Blocked Punt. I personally think the Gophers and Badgers are two programs going in completely different directions.

You should have stopped typing! You were right up to that point.

Great thread.
 

Whoa must have missed this thread when it first came out. For a program that has been owned by UW for the last 20 years you all talk an enormous amount of crap about the Badger program. I'm one of the biggest homers in the world, but when a program has our number I give them respect. I see that is not the route Gopher fans take.

Some of you more reasonable posters have it correct. Until you actually beat Bielema, what's the point in saying how terrible he is? Does that mean Brewster is extra terrible?

I understand home team/alma mater pride. I think there's a thin line between hope and delusion, and many in this thread have taken giant leaps over that line.

Good luck this year in Madison. These games are always crazy (except for a few pummelings in Madtown a few years back) and I'm expecting the Gophs to put up a good fight in Camp Randall.
 




Whoa must have missed this thread when it first came out. For a program that has been owned by UW for the last 20 years you all talk an enormous amount of crap about the Badger program. I'm one of the biggest homers in the world, but when a program has our number I give them respect. I see that is not the route Gopher fans take.

The problem is, Badger fans don't want respect. They want worship. God himself expects less respect. Excuse us for not throwing ourselves to the ground and for not tossing rose petals at your feet.
 

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How's that for "having a programs number" ?

Tubby Smith still doesn't know what losing to Madison might feel like

We'll take that respect to go please, thanks!
 

The problem is, Badger fans don't want respect. They want worship. God himself expects less respect. Excuse us for not throwing ourselves to the ground and for not tossing rose petals at your feet.

You are so, SO wrong Rodent Rampage! I have it on good authority that what we want is beer; if you have no beer, paint thinner will do, of course...
 



DL - this is where it gets scary. O'Brien Schofield is the only returning starter, and only real returning depth other than Dan Moore. Nzegwu and Brenden Kelly probably factor in at DE. You have to hope that Westphal (a **** DE recruit) can give them something/


Tyler Westphal according the Badger fans is transferring to NDSU so he can play right away, so YEAH!! We rescued a kid from that craphole madison!!

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The problem is, Badger fans don't want respect. They want worship. God himself expects less respect. Excuse us for not throwing ourselves to the ground and for not tossing rose petals at your feet.

Not true, IMO...

Gopher Fans want to rip the Badgers instead of looking in the mirror.


Can you imagine if these two programs records over the past 15 years were reversed, Wisky would hear no end of the Gopher fan bashing.

The OP looks really smart after this thread was rehashed, although there are lots of threads which would do the same.

Bottom line is that the Gophers are not on the same level as the Badgers. Maybe they will be in a few years, but as of now, the programs are not even comparable.
 

Maybe they will be in a few years, but as of now, the programs are not even comparable.

You're right.

The Vadgers could win the national title 5 years in a row and still not have as many as the Gophers.
 


Not true, IMO...

Bottom line is that the Gophers are not on the same level as the Badgers. Maybe they will be in a few years, but as of now, the programs are not even comparable.
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Wow....I mean, The Gophers have had a dry spell and haven't done well against the Badgers recently. But they are not even comparable? That's such an absurd statement from a geographic, competitive, and everything else standpoint. The only program in the Big Ten that is currently 'not even comparable' to the other programs is Ohio State. They have been on another level for quite some time. Michigan was on that level also before the recent Wolverine swoon.

I respect the success Wisconsin and Iowa have had, even if I don't exactly like either team (to put it charitably). So where do you get off claiming that when the shoes are on the other feet the Gopher fans will be oh so much worse than the Badgers? Do you have any evidence for that claim? Of course you don't.

Everyone knows you are a Badger fan. You are a repugnant troll who lives to throw sand in the eyes of actual Gopher fans. Get a life and return to your Badger brethren.

There is nothing wrong with being a Badger fan.

There is something VERY wrong with being a troll who pretends to like a team only to revel in taunting that team's fanbase.

You might as well be PantherHawk.
 

sorry for starting this!
i searched for tyler westphal and got this. MY BAD!
 

give credit

Ahlibobwa you just turned 40 years of being irrelevant in college football to a "dry spell".
 

Ahlibobwa you just turned 40 years of being irrelevant in college football to a "dry spell".
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rolls eyes. Pathetic on your part. Truly pathetic. You are really gonna go this route too? Why even post here?

The Gophers have been to 9 bowl games in 10 years. They have won 3 of them. They had an impressive 10 win season in 2003 that featured the most electrifying backfield in recent college football. In this span the Gophers have had players win the Thorpe award, Rimington Trophy, Mackey award, and Outland Trophy.

Have the Gophers been dominant. Obviously not. Irrelevant? Hardly.
 


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Wow....I mean, The Gophers have had a dry spell and haven't done well against the Badgers recently. But they are not even comparable? That's such an absurd statement from a geographic, competitive, and everything else standpoint. The only program in the Big Ten that is currently 'not even comparable' to the other programs is Ohio State. They have been on another level for quite some time. Michigan was on that level also before the recent Wolverine swoon.

I respect the success Wisconsin and Iowa have had, even if I don't exactly like either team (to put it charitably). So where do you get off claiming that when the shoes are on the other feet the Gopher fans will be oh so much worse than the Badgers? Do you have any evidence for that claim? Of course you don't.

Everyone knows you are a Badger fan. You are a repugnant troll who lives to throw sand in the eyes of actual Gopher fans. Get a life and return to your Badger brethren.

There is nothing wrong with being a Badger fan.

There is something VERY wrong with being a troll who pretends to like a team only to revel in taunting that team's fanbase.

You might as well be PantherHawk.

Dry spell? Is that what you call it? The gophs have had a couple of pretty good seasons over the past 20+ years - I believe they were 10-3 a couple of times with winning B10 records, which is very respectable. But that is not comparable, IMO, to what Wisconsin has done in the past 20+ years.

How bad does the UW basketball team get it on the BB board since they have not beaten the Gophers in x amount of games? That is where I drew my "evidence" you ask for.

For the record, I like both MN and Wisky, I just respond with thoughts to posts. Read all my posts, there are lots of "positive" ones out there, you just choose to bash me on the ones you do not agree with. I suppose that is the easy way. No offense meant or taken.
 

You're right.

The Vadgers could win the national title 5 years in a row and still not have as many as the Gophers.

This is my favorite argument for this supposed Minnesota supremacy. You are hanging your hat on National Championships from the segregation days. Congratulations! I'm sure the glory days are just around the corner. Keep waiting, the rest of the B10 is enjoying it!
 

This is my favorite argument for this supposed Minnesota supremacy. You are hanging your hat on National Championships from the segregation days. Congratulations! I'm sure the glory days are just around the corner. Keep waiting, the rest of the B10 is enjoying it!

Are you saying that national championships earned when the vote was taken in November before the team lost in a bowl somehow count less? Preposterous.
 

It beats hanging your hat on Wisconsin's legendary cannibalism and zoonecrophilia.
 

There is certainly some crow to be eaten. As it stands now, Minnesota doesn't (and never really did) have any reason to criticize the Wisconsin program. When the Gophers beat the Badgers, then and only then will there be any kind of permission to brag.
 

This is my favorite argument for this supposed Minnesota supremacy.

Didn't see anywhere that anyone posited any "Minnesota supremacy," but since you asked, there is no question that Minnesota is leaps and bounds ahead of Wisconsin from a historical perspective. For reference: 6-0. 18-11. 59-52-8.

You are hanging your hat on National Championships from the segregation days.

I'd rather hang my hat on those than the zero, ever, including segregation days, that Wisconsin has. I mean, Wisconsin was playing during the timeframe Minnesota won its titles, correct?

Congratulations!

Thanks! It feels good to know that my program is relevant historically! It also feels good to know that my school's program started before 1990!

I'm sure the glory days are just around the corner. Keep waiting, the rest of the B10 is enjoying it!

No one said or insinuated that past success has anything to do with future achievements! You are a master of strawman arguments!
 

its OFFICIAL. NDSU gets 4 star transfer from WISCONSIN. 6 6 245 DE Tyler Westphal.


suck on that SCONI' VILLE!!
 





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