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I keep forgetting that Wolitarsky is 6'10"! How the hell do other teams stop him?

Offensive line looks huge with decent back-ups.

Good to see Antoine Winfield Jr. made the depth chart as a back-up. If he plays like his dad that won't last long!
 

Otis said:
I keep forgetting that Wolitarsky is 6'10"! How the hell do other teams stop him?

Offensive line looks huge with decent back-ups.

Good to see Antoine Winfield Jr. made the depth chart as a back-up. If he plays like his dad that won't last long!
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Wozniak is 6'10.
 


Otis said:
I keep forgetting that Wolitarsky is 6'10"! How the hell do other teams stop him?

Offensive line looks huge with decent back-ups.

Good to see Antoine Winfield Jr. made the depth chart as a back-up. If he plays like his dad that won't last long!
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Why didn't Limegrover have some special goal line or short yardage jump ball play for him?
 

beavergopher said:
Why didn't Limegrover have some special goal line or short yardage jump ball play for him?
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What's his vertical and such? Being tall helps but it's not everything on a jump ball.

Not to defend Limegrover.... still worth a shot.
 


gophers141 said:
Where is Ace Rogers?
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I am 99% sure Claeys has said in one of his recent interviews (facebook show maybe) that Rodgers is working with the 3rd team to "ease him back in". He should climb the depth chart if he stays healthy.
 

John Galt said:
There are no "facts." How do you know Mitch will be starting at QB?
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There are most definitely facts. Here are some:

1. No depth chart has been released for the 2016 season. Ergo, there is no way of knowing that Everett Williams is "4th string" (PS, doesn't exist) on the depth chart, nor that Jaylen Waters is "3rd string" (PS, doesn't exist) and ahead of him.

2. A "position chart" (whatever that is) has been released for the 2016 season. Neither Jaylen Waters nor Everett Williams are listed on it. Though it's not a depth chart, if you want to use it as a proxy for a depth chart, it still doesn't help your case, as neither are listed and there is no way to know which one is the fictional/magical "3rd string"/"4th string" on the nonexistent depth chart.

3. Mitch Leidner is listed at 1st string QB on the "position chart". Again, we don't know where he will be on the unreleased-as-of-yet depth chart, but once again, if we want to use the "position chart" as a proxy for a depth chart, it's a pretty safe bet that he'll be listed at 1st string QB when it comes out.

4. "Starting" isn't a term that comes into play on a depth chart. A depth chart has 1st- and 2nd-string players listed on it, a key explanation for why some refer to it as the "2 deeps".

5. To expand on fact 4, "3rd string" and "4th string" on a depth chart aren't things that exist. They are figments of your imagination.

Hope this helps.
 

dpodoll68 said:
There are most definitely facts. Here are some:

1. No depth chart has been released for the 2016 season. Ergo, there is no way of knowing that Everett Williams is "4th string" (PS, doesn't exist) on the depth chart, nor that Jaylen Waters is "3rd string" (PS, doesn't exist) and ahead of him.

2. A "position chart" (whatever that is) has been released for the 2016 season. Neither Jaylen Waters nor Everett Williams are listed on it. Though it's not a depth chart, if you want to use it as a proxy for a depth chart, it still doesn't help your case, as neither are listed and there is no way to know which one is the fictional/magical "3rd string"/"4th string" on the nonexistent depth chart.

3. Mitch Leidner is listed at 1st string QB on the "position chart". Again, we don't know where he will be on the unreleased-as-of-yet depth chart, but once again, if we want to use the "position chart" as a proxy for a depth chart, it's a pretty safe bet that he'll be listed at 1st string QB when it comes out.

4. "Starting" isn't a term that comes into play on a depth chart. A depth chart has 1st- and 2nd-string players listed on it, a key explanation for why some refer to it as the "2 deeps".

5. To expand on fact 4, "3rd string" and "4th string" on a depth chart aren't things that exist. They are figments of your imagination.

Hope this helps.
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what a waste of oxygen and typing.
 

My biggest concern reviewing this is that we are counting on Jalen Myrick to be an everydown cornerback and the punt/kick returner and his opposites and back ups are all freshman. Punt return is an injury magnet and I don't think you can afford to risk your one experienced corner at that spot.
 



John Galt said:
what a waste of oxygen and typing.
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Translation: "Waa, I'm butthurt because I made a statement with no basis and now I'm being called out on it. Rather than manning up and admitting my error, I'll attack the other poster and name-call. Waaa!!!"
 

LakerFan said:
My biggest concern reviewing this is that we are counting on Jalen Myrick to be an everydown cornerback and the punt/kick returner and his opposites and back ups are all freshman. Punt return is an injury magnet and I don't think you can afford to risk your one experienced corner at that spot.
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Agreed. Myrick is a great weapon in the return game, but it's a HUGE risk to have back back there this season considering he is far and away our best and most experienced CB.

Cue return to pointless arguments among the most annoying posters regarding our position chart.
 

Has Wolitarski returned punts before?

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Hardin will most likely be the punt returner if healthy. While he's probably the starter at CB opposite Myrick, he's not as valuable so I'd be fine with him returning punts. As for kickoffs, I'd prefer Myrick isn't back there. That's how he got hurt last year.
 



LakerFan said:
My biggest concern reviewing this is that we are counting on Jalen Myrick to be an everydown cornerback and the punt/kick returner and his opposites and back ups are all freshman. Punt return is an injury magnet and I don't think you can afford to risk your one experienced corner at that spot.
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Good point. I had the same thought. Myrick may be our best returner, but I don't think he is so far ahead that we can risk him back there.


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jaymil said:
Hardin will most likely be the punt returner if healthy. While he's probably the starter at CB opposite Myrick, he's not as valuable so I'd be fine with him returning punts. As for kickoffs, I'd prefer Myrick isn't back there. That's how he got hurt last year.
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I always wished we put Streveler back there with his speed.

But yeah we need Myrick.
 





dpodoll68 said:
Translation: "Waa, I'm butthurt because I made a statement with no basis and now I'm being called out on it. Rather than manning up and admitting my error, I'll attack the other poster and name-call. Waaa!!!"
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I'll reiterate again: it's obvious to everyone who has watched practice that Williams is our 4th string MLB. He would play after Poock, Rallis, and Waters. Pretty simple, despite no official list of "4-deeps."
 


Regarding the #2 QB debate: as Leidner has noted, the new offensive coordinator has gone to a new system. This system requires the QB to come up to the line of scrimmage, survey the defense, and based on certain keys, the QB is expected to switch the play call if he thinks the play called in the huddle will not work against the defensive alignment.

Maybe - just maybe - Rhoda handles that aspect of the QB position better than the younger players. Maybe - just maybe - that's why he's listed as #2 on the position chart/depth chart. It comes down to this - who does the coaching staff trust to carry out their assignments and run the offense correctly if Leidner is hurt. It's not all about "ability" or "talent," - it's about running the offense, and avoiding mistakes.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Regarding the #2 QB debate: as Leidner has noted, the new offensive coordinator has gone to a new system. This system requires the QB to come up to the line of scrimmage, survey the defense, and based on certain keys, the QB is expected to switch the play call if he thinks the play called in the huddle will not work against the defensive alignment.

Maybe - just maybe - Rhoda handles that aspect of the QB position better than the younger players. Maybe - just maybe - that's why he's listed as #2 on the position chart/depth chart. It comes down to this - who does the coaching staff trust to carry out their assignments and run the offense correctly if Leidner is hurt. It's not all about "ability" or "talent," - it's about running the offense, and avoiding mistakes.
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Yea, but Gopherhole posters are convinced it's all an elaborate ruse since Croft has so much more talent!!
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Regarding the #2 QB debate: as Leidner has noted, the new offensive coordinator has gone to a new system. This system requires the QB to come up to the line of scrimmage, survey the defense, and based on certain keys, the QB is expected to switch the play call if he thinks the play called in the huddle will not work against the defensive alignment.

Maybe - just maybe - Rhoda handles that aspect of the QB position better than the younger players. Maybe - just maybe - that's why he's listed as #2 on the position chart/depth chart. It comes down to this - who does the coaching staff trust to carry out their assignments and run the offense correctly if Leidner is hurt. It's not all about "ability" or "talent," - it's about running the offense, and avoiding mistakes.
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Uh, that's what I said too! Many on this post think they know more than the coaches, I think maybe they don't.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
It comes down to this - who does the coaching staff trust to carry out their assignments and run the offense correctly if Leidner is hurt. It's not all about "ability" or "talent," - it's about running the offense, and avoiding mistakes.
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The depth chart doesn't have to reflect that at all.
 

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MaxyJR1 said:
Johnson seemed firm about Rhoda being the No. 2 QB. Praised his consistency and huddle presence, says the other backups are still young.
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Rhoda is red shirt junior and Johnson must think he's ready. This may be the best thing for the young QBs and I think it will help Croft if he can have his red shirt year to gain some weight and get more comfortable with the new aspects of the offense.

Next year, we could possibly see Rhoda start with one of the younger guys as the backup.

This is a good way to build QB depth, something we haven't had for what seems a decade or more.


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dpodoll68 said:
Translation: "Waa, I'm butthurt because I made a statement with no basis and now I'm being called out on it. Rather than manning up and admitting my error, I'll attack the other poster and name-call. Waaa!!!"
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This is usually your tactic, so I guess you know it when you see it.
 

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