The Case for Niko (aka Niko’s Case)

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Spaulding!No! said:
Yes, but he was playing the U. This place hasn’t had a cogent team on the floor for at least 20 years.
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Niko beat down the gophers so bad in the 2023 secret scrimmage game that Ben didn't even schedule one before this last season. Just added a 2nd exhibition game against a D3 opponent to avoid further preseason embarrassment. Just a hunch.
 


GopherBlood777 said:
Niko beat down the gophers so bad in the 2023 secret scrimmage game that Ben didn't even schedule one before this last season. Just added a 2nd exhibition game against a D3 opponent to avoid further preseason embarrassment. Just a hunch.
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Thorson probably scheduled that and was banned from doing any of this year's schedule.
 

My two cents on CSU’s first round win:

Their continuous sets were methodical, but patient on offense. They rank in 200s in pace but upside is they don’t turn the ball over. Also their zone offense was quite effective and it was refreshing to see them generate some outside shooting when needed. I really liked the defense. It felt there were some schemes where they almost played a hybrid zone/man scheme.

I don’t know if medved can fix the gophers but if he is the choice, and his schemes were an indication, Gophers will be more competitive in the BigTen.
 

orangegopher15 said:
My two cents on CSU’s first round win:

Their continuous sets were methodical, but patient on offense. They rank in 200s in pace but upside is they don’t turn the ball over. Also their zone offense was quite effective and it was refreshing to see them generate some outside shooting when needed. I really liked the defense. It felt there were some schemes where they almost played a hybrid zone/man scheme.

I don’t know if medved can fix the gophers but if he is the choice, and his schemes were an indication, Gophers will be more competitive in the BigTen.
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Ive never understood the focus on pace of play as a metric for performance. You alternate possessions, so it doesn't matter if there are a lot or not many possessions, what matters is whether you score more on yours than they do on yours.

Ive seen fast teams that push the pace and are hard to defend, and face teams that recklessly turn the ball over and chuck up bad shots.

Ive seen slow teams that aimlessly pass the ball around before forcing up a bad shot to beat the shot clock, and slow teams that methodically work their offense and find a good look.
 


Taurus Samuels Fan Club said:
In general with guys coming from mid-level and lower jobs, I think it's interesting to try to at least guess at how well-resourced they are *relative to the rest of their league*. For example, I see all the time in the rumor mill about Ryan Odom (and guys who've come from VCU in the past) that the job is extremely well-resourced compared to the rest of the A-10.

In the Mountain West I don't know much about how the hierarchy shakes out, other than I would guess SDSU is one of the better, if not the best, resourced, and San Jose State and Air Force are almost certainly at the bottom. So how CSU fits in compared to New Mexico, Boise, Utah State, UNLV, etc. when it comes to resources, I don't know, but I'd be interested to try to learn.

Having said that, I'd be shocked if CSU spent as much on their roster as Memphis did on theirs.
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I have no idea what their NIL is like, but if you go to https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/ and select "Compare Data for Multiple Schools" you can see their Men's Basketball budgets (it's a bit old, I think it is the 2022-23 school year) which is showing roughly:

CSU - $5.9M
UNM - $4.9M
Boise - $4.8M
SDSU - $9.1M
UNLV - $4.7M

(Gophers $8.6M)
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
Ive never understood the focus on pace of play as a metric for performance. You alternate possessions, so it doesn't matter if there are a lot or not many possessions, what matters is whether you score more on yours than they do on yours.

Ive seen fast teams that push the pace and are hard to defend, and face teams that recklessly turn the ball over and chuck up bad shots.

Ive seen slow teams that aimlessly pass the ball around before forcing up a bad shot to beat the shot clock, and slow teams that methodically work their offense and find a good look.
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Well stated. What I like about this CSU team is that they emphasize taking care of the ball, increasing their efficiency.
 

GopherGrit said:
I have no idea what their NIL is like, but if you go to https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/ and select "Compare Data for Multiple Schools" you can see their Men's Basketball budgets (it's a bit old, I think it is the 2022-23 school year) which is showing roughly:

CSU - $5.9M
UNM - $4.9M
Boise - $4.8M
SDSU - $9.1M
UNLV - $4.7M

(Gophers $8.6M)
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Where does the Gopher compare to rest of BIG 18 for BB budget?
 

What happens if Colorado State keeps winning? Our potential next coach gets exposed to more programs trying to fill vacancies - some with much more noteriety than us. Whats the backup plan? This is a complete disaster if we have to settle for a perceived backup plan.... Meanwhile, New Mexico is moving on.... 4 years....
 





akgo4 said:
What happens if Colorado State keeps winning? Our potential next coach gets exposed to more programs trying to fill vacancies - some with much more noteriety than us. Whats the backup plan? This is a complete disaster if we have to settle for a perceived backup plan.... Meanwhile, New Mexico is moving on.... 4 years....
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You seem to have a very positive outlook on things
 

akgo4 said:
What happens if Colorado State keeps winning? Our potential next coach gets exposed to more programs trying to fill vacancies - some with much more noteriety than us. Whats the backup plan? This is a complete disaster if we have to settle for a perceived backup plan.... Meanwhile, New Mexico is moving on.... 4 years....
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Calm down. Get a hold of yourself.

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In the last week I have watched Niko in interviews and other assorted YouTube video and I have read about him. Nothing more. He seems like a good guy and a good coach. I am pulling for him and CSU to go deep as they can. Fort Collins is a great town and he has had success there. I suspect it will be hard for him to leave. If he goes anywhere I think the U has a better chance than anyone given his attachments.
 



Spaulding!No! said:
I read somewhere that he is going to WV. Suddenly, a mid major coach is our only hope.
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If he chooses to go to a lesser conference that might blow up in a few years instead of his former school in one of the 2 premierconferences, then we might as well close the program down.

LOL!
 

Gopheritnow said:
Where does the Gopher compare to rest of BIG 18 for BB budget?
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It only lets me compare four schools at a time. And again this is 2022-23 school year numbers:

Iowa - $10.4M
Wisconsin - $11M
Nebraska - $10.2M
Illinois - $14.2M
 

akgo4 said:
What happens if Colorado State keeps winning? Our potential next coach gets exposed to more programs trying to fill vacancies - some with much more noteriety than us. Whats the backup plan? This is a complete disaster if we have to settle for a perceived backup plan.... Meanwhile, New Mexico is moving on.... 4 years....
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So let me get this straight....do you honestly think there are places with coaching vacancies that are completely unaware of Medved and would only become aware of him if CSU keeps advancing in the tournament?

I mean I guess that might be true of some fans but any AD looking for a coach who might be interested in hiring Medved is already aware of him.
 

MNVCGUY said:
So let me get this straight....do you honestly think there are places with coaching vacancies that are completely unaware of Medved and would only become aware of him if CSU keeps advancing in the tournament?

I mean I guess that might be true of some fans but any AD looking for a coach who might be interested in hiring Medved is already aware of him.
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+1

A headline grabbing run might marginally up the bidding price, but he's not going to magically appear on someone's radar by making the sweet 16.
 

MNVCGUY said:
So let me get this straight....do you honestly think there are places with coaching vacancies that are completely unaware of Medved and would only become aware of him if CSU keeps advancing in the tournament?

I mean I guess that might be true of some fans but any AD looking for a coach who might be interested in hiring Medved is already aware of him.
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What about "he was on our radar but we didn't consider him worthy of an offer until seeing what they did in the tournament"?

I have no idea if that's a thing, hope not.

I guess I don't see why we wouldn't do it like Wade did at McNeese, with the early announcement, if the deal is basically already done. They (McNeese) still even won a game.
 


alchemy2u said:
All you do is go onto new threads and bitch about how they should not have been created. If you really think that, then just ignore them and they will die on their own. wtf.
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I can't answer for Unregistered User but I agree with him because I care about the quality of discourse. Maybe he feels the same. I've never been on another forum where people can kick an exhausted horse for as long and as often as they do here.
 

MNVCGUY said:
So let me get this straight....do you honestly think there are places with coaching vacancies that are completely unaware of Medved and would only become aware of him if CSU keeps advancing in the tournament?

I mean I guess that might be true of some fans but any AD looking for a coach who might be interested in hiring Medved is already aware of him.
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No - More the opposite.... Is Coyle willing (or able) to get into a bidding war? They went cheap on Johnson. They can't do that again and be credible.
 

MNVCGUY said:
So let me get this straight....do you honestly think there are places with coaching vacancies that are completely unaware of Medved and would only become aware of him if CSU keeps advancing in the tournament?

I mean I guess that might be true of some fans but any AD looking for a coach who might be interested in hiring Medved is already aware of him.i
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I think if they advance, it'll probably get him a higher pay day and better chance at maybe bringing more CSU players here / landing higher level transfers
 

akgo4 said:
No - More the opposite.... Is Coyle willing (or able) to get into a bidding war? They went cheap on Johnson. They can't do that again and be credible.
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If they want Medved they will have to pay because he will have options. Totally different situation then hiring a guy like Johnson who was an unknown.

I compare this to the Fleck hiring situation. Coyle identified Fleck as the guy he wanted and he went out and got him.
 


MNVCGUY said:
If they want Medved they will have to pay because he will have options. Totally different situation then hiring a guy like Johnson who was an unknown.

I compare this to the Fleck hiring situation. Coyle identified Fleck as the guy he wanted and he went out and got him.
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It was smart of Coyle to sign him up before the bidding war started.
 


In my opinion his going to West Virginia is very likely…because of his father-in-law (whom I know but haven’t spoken to for about a year) who is a very wealthy mover and shaker in the state of West Virginia (past member of WV Board of Regents etc etc). If f-in-law were so inclined (and I wouldn’t know) he could contribute more NIL money just by himself than Minnesota has
 

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