Thanks Joel for letting Husker's, Badger's and Hawkeye fans in for a...

No reason they should treat visiting fans any better than they treat Gopher fans.
I can't believe I'm going to half defend a Badger troll...but what about saying Bingo implies anything about how opposing fans should be treated better??? I'm with people on how much it sucks to have opposing fans make their way into TCF (I just rewatched the Iowa game replay earlier this week and hated seeing so many Hawkeye fans in good seats). But they only group to blame for opposing fans making it into TCF is Gopher fans. We're the ones not selling out the stadium or being willing to sell our seats on StubHub for the money. We can all get pissy about it, and there are certainly things the athletic department needs to be doing differently or better, but at the end of the day this wouldn't be an issue if Gopher fans bought all the seats and didn't resell them. Period.
 

The only fact is that our marketing department sells out games by forcing fans (especially opposing fans) to buy tickets to games they are likely not see themselves.

This market doesn't have the demand to sell out most of the games with 100% gopher fans. Maybe not the demand to sell any games.

There is demand in the metro from Iowa, Wisconsin, NDSU, and Nebraska fans.

I find it amazing that some fans demand that we try harder to keep the opposing fans out. The only solution is to win. Win at home and win the big games. The fact is our marketing department is not trying at all (nor do the want to) to keep opposing fans out. They are just making money for the program.

The only way to keep out opposing fans is by lowering prices and selling to families. Which ultimately in the short and maybe long term hurts the program from a revenue standpoint.
 

Every sold ticket/hotdog/soda at TCF is money in the U coffers. This is a good thing.
 

This outta make the out of state Gopher fans, as well as the in-state non 16 year olds very happy.

Go Gophers!!

How many in-state 16 year olds will purchase a ticket on there own? Also, how many out of state Gopher fans make that decision on game day?
Bleed, if you don't want a sh-t pot full of Becky fans at TCF there are ways to make them pay for the value of the seat. I agree that my idea is a radical solution,but I would pay another 25.00 per season ticket just to keep the Becky's , Herkey's and Husker's from having more than 3,000-4,000
fans at TCF.
 

How many in-state 16 year olds will purchase a ticket on there own? Also, how many out of state Gopher fans make that decision on game day?
Bleed, if you don't want a sh-t pot full of Becky fans at TCF there are ways to make them pay for the value of the seat. I agree that my idea is a radical solution,but I would pay another 25.00 per season ticket just to keep the Becky's , Herkey's and Husker's from having more than 3,000-4,000
fans at TCF.
So you're saying you are a big fan of pointless showboating when it comes to tickets? Opposing fans are going to get in to TCF if they want to. And that's the fault of Gopher fans. Coming up with hairbrained schemes to keep them out only makes the U look silly and desperate.
 



goaupher: I totally resent your statement that ANYTHING is the fault of long-time...

season ticket holding fans of this Golden Gopher Football Program. I have been buying tickets for decade after decade and it is the stinking badger joel macturis of the administration who have TOTALLY blown the mission over decades that the program has walked in the wilderness.

Stinking badger joel macturi has totally let the long-time football season ticket holders down up until this point in time. He made the extensions...HE made the buyouts...HE made the hires and HE shoulders ALL the blame for not having an extremely long waiting list for season ticket holders in TCF BANK STADIUM in just it's 3rd season.

So, goaupher: take your unfounded charges that it is the fans fault that badger joel macturi can screw up a one man parade when it comes to running the revenue sports at the U of M. Put the stinking administrators on notice at the U of M that it is THEIR job to sell tickets and that they had BETTER put the revenue sports back on a competetive basis. What the hell good is an athletic director who can NOT direct successful and competetive REVENUE SPORTS PROGRAMS. What kind of an idiot athletic director can have a down-sized brand-new on-campus state of the art two year old stadium not sold out with a LONG waiting list?????????

goaupher: do NOT try to blame people like me who have been buying season tickets decade after decade. ALL the blame goes to badger joel macturi. He has been here about ten seasons now and he has totally failed with the revenue sports programs. Get him out of here NOW. Out the door...under the bus...totally ditched~

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Why not add other levels to those offered tickets? Right now season's ticket holders get first crack and then it goes out to the general public.

Why not give season ticket holders first crack and then tier the following way:
1. U graduates
2. Past buyers of single game tickets all sports except those who bought tickets for rivalry games
3. Minnesota residents (must have valid mailing address)

This would cut down on rival fans but then again is it worth the trouble?
 

Why not add other levels to those offered tickets? Right now season's ticket holders get first crack and then it goes out to the general public.

Why not give season ticket holders first crack and then tier the following way:
1. U graduates
2. Past buyers of single game tickets all sports except those who bought tickets for rivalry games
3. Minnesota residents (must have valid mailing address)

This would cut down on rival fans but then again is it worth the trouble?
A constructive idea! :) Not a bad suggestion at all.
 



As a newb to gopher football and an out of stater I think it comes down to winning in a saturated sports market. For the size of the twin cities I am amazed at how many times a sports fan's $ gets stretched and pulled. NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL. That's what the U has to compete with.Heck, I live in Orange county, ca. and we have NHL only, no d-1 football, same population base. Bottom line, win and they will come, otherwise the U has to package tickets to maximize profits. Madison only has Badger football as there is a 32 year wait list for Packer seats. The Badgers have been winning for 19 years now and demand is way up. Consistent winning will put maroon butts in the seats.I bet right now, students could buy a season package for $99, sell the top 3 games and see the other 4 games for free. Win on a consistent basis and very few will resell seats.
 

3. Minnesota residents (must have valid mailing address)

Including P.O. boxes? It would still cut down on the outstate tickets quite a bit, but I don't think it's much of a reach to think that a motivated buyer from outside MN would get a P.O. box specifically for this reason (and Canadian Viagra).
 

Why not add other levels to those offered tickets? Right now season's ticket holders get first crack and then it goes out to the general public.

Why not give season ticket holders first crack and then tier the following way:
1. U graduates
2. Past buyers of single game tickets all sports except those who bought tickets for rivalry games
3. Minnesota residents (must have valid mailing address)

This would cut down on rival fans but then again is it worth the trouble?

I think they already tried #3 in the dome, and I am sure it was a pain in the ass. My neighbor is a Hawkeye. All of these opposing fans live in the metro.

I think 1-2 seem like a good idea, but ultimately they need to grow the season ticket base. But implementing 1-2 it probably undercuts the point of buying season tickets and allows fans to cherry-pick.
 

Walrus - I don't think anyone is blaming the current season ticket holders. If we're going to blame someone, we can blame the U for its marketing efforts (or lack thereof). But, I think the real point is that not enough people are becoming new season ticket holders. It's been pointed out many times that the long-time fans like the Walrus are getting older, and there simply have not been enough younger fans buying season tickets and supporting the Gophers. When I've gone to games in the past (I live in outstate MN, and usually try to get to at least 1 game a year), it's painfully obvious that there's a gap in the fan base - plenty of fans in the 50-70 yr-old age group, but very few fans in the prize 25-50 age group, and a few younger fans that probably got in on discounted tickets.

Simply put, the Gophers have lost an entire generation of fans. There's no quick fix or easy solution to put bodies back in the seats. The Gophers have to play entertaining football, win games, qualify for some decent bowl games, and do some effective marketing. Then, and only then, will you see more demand for tickets, and maybe start to freeze out the visiting fans from gobbling up tickets. It's not going to happen in a year or two - it may take 5 or 10 years to build up the fan base to a point where the stadium is selling out every week with (close to) 100% of Gopher Fans. All the marketing in the world will not make up for the lack of a good product, and the Gopher FB program has just not put a good enough product on the field to make fans open up their wallets and pay for tickets.
 




I agree that it is the product S. O. N. People other than we loyal, stupid...

long time season ticket holders continued to buy tickets even when the chief administrator of the athletic department, the "career" administrators within the athletic department and elsewhere within the University systyem, the prexy of the University and the Board of regents have all combined over the past half-century or so to turn the University of Minnesota Football Program into a non-relevent, non-competetive graveyard of college football coaches. But, as we have either succumbed to old age or have totally given up, new potential season ticket buyers have scoffed at the tactics of the administrators who manage the football program at the U.

The problem is, the prexys and the athletic directors ONLY strategy at running a football program was:

1. collect the shared revenue that the Conference gave Minnesota for participating in the Big Ten Conference regardless of the competetive level the University of Minnesota put on the field. Then, use that money to pay for the bulk of Title IX and Non-Revenue sports programs at the U and try to score big in the "olympic" sports that NOBODY possibly would buy a ticket to support.

2. Every time the attendance got REALLY BAD for the football program and the product on the field was bottom third level or lower in the conference for three to five years to try appease and distract the stupid season ticket holders anger and frustration by firing ANOTHER coach.

3. By trying some stupid and lame "marketing" ploys to attract new fans, because the on-field product could NOT attract and sometimes even hold the attention of any but the most loyal long-term stupid season ticket holders (people just like me...)

The Only really decent Athletic Directors within the past twenty years were Mark Dienhart and Tom Moe. Under their direction, the football program at least became competetive within the Big Ten Conference

So goaupher: you can NOT blame the season ticket holders. After a while you can not even blame the coaches. They don't "buy themselves out". hire themselves or fire themselves. Follow the trail of the athletic director, the prexy and the Board of Regents. They are the people pulling the strings, making the moves, and deciding IF they want the Football Program to be competetive or not. Just LOOK at badger joel macturi's record and history with the Football Program. prexy b let the door hit him by staying around too long, tripped on his way trying to extend bjm before the new prexy came into office and broke his leg.

Put the blame where the blame belongs goaupher: badger joel macturi is guilty as sin for the current attendance problem in TCF BANK STADIUM. Don't try to blame we season ticket holders who have been stupid enough to not revolt against the administrators at the University of Minnesota for what they have given us for our loyalty. The administrators at the U of M have gotten exactly what they have wanted for the the Football Program. They just have NOT cared at all about the Football Program AND the season ticket buying public and potential new fans. And it shows...

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Don't be such a foolish unregistered person....I will always keep my season tickets..

but, for the past four or five years I at least had the common sense to give prexy b and badger joel macturi hell for their inept mismangement of the Football Program at the Unversity of Minnesota. The people who just "take it" and don't get really p.$$ed off at badger joel macturi and any and every prexy who puts up with the incompetent bjm will have to just be content with what the administration gives them. At least I've been speaking out about the incompetent administrators and the horrible job they have done in the past five or six years.

You can kiss badger joel macturi's butt if you want...but I will call it as I see it. Throw bjm under the bus NOW!

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but, for the past four or five years I at least had the common sense to give prexy b and badger joel macturi hell for their inept mismangement of the Football Program at the Unversity of Minnesota. The people who just "take it" and don't get really p.$$ed off at badger joel macturi and any and every prexy who puts up with the incompetent bjm will have to just be content with what the administration gives them. At least I've been speaking out about the incompetent administrators and the horrible job they have done in the past five or six years.

You can kiss badger joel macturi's butt if you want...but I will call it as I see it. Throw bjm under the bus NOW!

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Can you show me where I said, or alluded to kissing his ass? Go ahead...I'll wait.

And while you're at it, can you please quantify just how you have been giving Bruininks and Maturi "hell" for the past 4 or 5 years. And I'll need something more than ranting behind an alias on a public board.
 

Including P.O. boxes? It would still cut down on the outstate tickets quite a bit, but I don't think it's much of a reach to think that a motivated buyer from outside MN would get a P.O. box specifically for this reason (and Canadian Viagra).

I'm probably the only one that has this viewpoint, but if someone is willing to go through the trouble of setting up a P.O. Box just so they could get a higher priority selection of watching their team play @ Minnesota, I willing to just say "let the fu$%&# have the ticket."
 


There's nothing wrong with how the U sells it's tickets. Put a winning product on the field for long enough time will sell out the empty seats. No marketing gimmick is going to prevent opposing fanbases from infiltrating TheBank.. Especially Becky, Jerkeyes and Husker fans.

Oh, and just FYI.. There's nothing wrong with Duluth.
 


From a marketing perspective, sell Nebraska and Iowa in a package only. Must by Nebraska and Iowa and both the Miami and NDSU games. We would have generated revenue (the fan bases in NE and IA would have bought the tickets, and increased the likelihood of reduced opposing fans in the stands.

And by what necessity or rationale would you make NE or IA buy NDSU tickets? He made IA buy NDSU tickets in 2006 and plenty showed up. Maturi then sold them straight up to NDSU fans in 2007 and made a small fortune, as he will this year. New Mexico State and Miami-Ohio, sure, makes sense, but not NDSU when he can make more scalping their own tickets to fans who will pay anything.
 


The people who just "take it" and don't get really p.$$ed off at badger joel macturi and any and every prexy who puts up with the incompetent bjm will have to just be content with what the administration gives them.

Keep cutting those checks! That'll show 'em.
 

You can kiss badger joel macturi's butt if you want...but I will call it as I see it. )
No matter how much 11/7 kisses your butt your grammar still sucks, and I would appreciate you stop writing like a badger fan.
 

So you want 10k empty seats in the arena? Because if you limit the opposing teams tickets to the 3k the rest of the seats stay empty since Gopher fans arent buying them.
 

Hey there you silly little monk...I think I'll just call you "monkie" as my "pet"...

nickname for your grammar police routine.

As I stated: "...you can kiss badger joel macturi's butt...(BUT) I will call it as I see it..."

And as for my Gramma...she lived to be 106 and she was truely a kind and gentle soul. You had better genuflect when you start talking about my "Gramma..." you foul tempered little "monkie..."

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nickname for your grammar police routine.

As I stated: "...you can kiss badger joel macturi's butt...(BUT) I will call it as I see it..."

And as for my Gramma...she lived to be 106 and she was truely a kind and gentle soul. You had better genuflect when you start talking about my "Gramma..." you foul tempered little "monkie..."

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Why do you refuse to answer direct, succinct questions that are asked of you, my little pet Wren?
 

something a badger fan would write

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