Teague's expenses detail golfing trips, limo rides, steak dinners...

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short ornery norwegian said:
Considering what we know now, they may be taking a close look at the expenditures for alcohol.
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Doubt it. Personally, think some of you are way overthinking most of this stuff. The dude was an alcoholic. His specific expenditures on alcohol during his tenure, and considering that, will have zero bearing on future policy nor should they.

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A buddy of mine used to work for a place as a salesman and he spent $10,000 on a dinner for something like 15-20 people probably 20 years ago. He said the bill was half liquor, half food. The worst part? The food was the incredibly fancy but REALLY tiny portions, so he ended up leaving hungry and sober and had to stop at a fast food restaurant on the way home to not go home hungry.

When he sheepishly turned the bill in to his boss, his boss looked at him and said "You brought Client X to THIS restaurant and spent $10,000???? You got off CHEAP! Last time I took them, we spent closer to $20,000!".

I mean, if the guy is expensing $500 hotels in Indianapolis on a random weekday, he should rethink where he stays. But when you are in a town for an event, sometimes you gotta pay what you gotta pay.

For example, what if the $300 a night hotel meant he didn't need a rental car? Maybe saving the gas and parking and rental fees pays for the difference between that and the next less expensive hotel.

And a steak dinner - oh my, stop the presses! Next time, take the potential donor to Applebee's and insist they order a meal less than $10. And don't let them upgrade from fries to onion rings, whatever you do!!!!!!
 

Maximus said:
Shipley sure knows his stuff. Apparently the students cut the tuition check and Kaler signs it over to Teague to cover green fees. Nevermind tv revenue, bowl revenue, merchandise sales, donations, ticket sales, concessions, Nike money.....
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No where does it say "students cut the check" it says the university does which would include revenues from TV, bowl games, donations, tickets, etc.

You know who did just spend oodles of tax dollars at a much higher rate than this? The Vikings. A team owned by a billionaire. To build a stadium. To make said billionaire more money.

Yet we are "mad" about NT spending $26K to raise $70m for a school? Got it.
 

I'm a Development Director for a non-profit. Any outrage regarding his spending when fundraising for a massive campaign is laughable -- you have to spend money to raise money during a capital campaign.
 

Shipley is trying really hard to get readers to pay attention to his (Me too) newspaper.
A few days ago, Shipley described Jerry Kill as the "Golden Child"
 


howeda7 said:
To your average frugal Minnesotan this will still cause some complaining. They still haven't forgotten the NC payout.
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I was as angry as anyone about the NC payout, but this story about the expenses is not newsworthy. As many people have said, all of these charges listed seem reasonable. It certainly doesn't hurt for the newspaper or the University to look into it, but I don't see anything fishy here.

Funny thing about the NC payout is that Teague invited me to visit with him after I sent a letter of my displeasure about it. Talked with him and David Benedict at Bierman for an hour and they explained all their reasoning behind it. They did give me a Diet Coke while I was there. Not sure if that's in the expense reports.
 

FatNTired said:
I'm a Development Director for a non-profit. Any outrage regarding his spending when fundraising for a massive campaign is laughable -- you have to spend money to raise money during a capital campaign.
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Best name on the board.
 

scher215 said:
You know who did just spend oodles of tax dollars at a much higher rate than this? The Vikings. A team owned by a billionaire. To build a stadium. To make said billionaire more money.

Yet we are "mad" about NT spending $26K to raise $70m for a school? Got it.
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This
 

I actually look at that as being cheap. 26k for a years time? His job is to be out wooing big time donors. I bet I have expensed out half that in the last year and I am not even close to an AD at a B1G university. This is a complete NON-story imo. Any "common folk" who get upset by this are a little bit too common for their own good. (I fall squarely under the category of "common folk")
 



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supadupafly said:
Doubt it. Personally, think some of you are way overthinking most of this stuff. The dude was an alcoholic. His specific expenditures on alcohol during his tenure, and considering that, will have zero bearing on future policy nor should they.

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We can argue forever about what an alcoholic is...we could argue forever about what's overweight and who is...but, pretty much it comes down to each person's opinion. I'm not buying Norwood is an alcoholic by many people's definition of what that would be. Norwood is sharp enough to use drinking as an excuse to explain his behavior.
 

60's Guy said:
We can argue forever about what an alcoholic is...we could argue forever about what's overweight and who is...but, pretty much it comes down to each person's opinion. I'm not buying Norwood is an alcoholic by many people's definition of what that would be. Norwood is sharp enough to use drinking as an excuse to explain his behavior.
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Is there a difference between a 'reason' and an 'excuse'?:cool02:
 

Totally reasonable entertainment expenses for a $150M capital campaign. I didn't look through the list but you could make the argument that it should have been higher, meaning that there weren't enough donor outings.
 

station19 said:
Is there a difference between a 'reason' and an 'excuse'?:cool02:
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Absolutely. It softens the responsibility, accountabilty to say it happened because ____ (name an excuse) versus a reason that's true. Again, we are back to the definition of an alcoholic. And Norwood could be a falling down drunk or keep a bottle in his desk that empties daily but I think if that were true it would be a rumbling prior to the relevation it's why he harassed women. And yes, it could be a reason in this instance but was he then drunk each time he hit on Amelia? To me it's a coverup excuse.
 



don't want to hijack the thread, but as a recovering alcoholic, just let me say that professionals do not define an alcoholic by how much you drink or how often. they define it by how your behavior changes when you drink. I had friends who drank more than I did, but I was the one who was blacking out and doing lots of other things I won't repeat here.
As the 1st step says, "We came to believe that we were powerless over alcohol, that our lives had become unmanageable." If all of Teague's incidents with women came while he was drinking, he may very well be an alcoholic.
 

60's Guy said:
Absolutely. It softens the responsibility, accountabilty to say it happened because ____ (name an excuse) versus a reason that's true. Again, we are back to the definition of an alcoholic. And Norwood could be a falling down drunk or keep a bottle in his desk that empties daily but I think if that were true it would be a rumbling prior to the relevation it's why he harassed women. And yes, it could be a reason in this instance but was he then drunk each time he hit on Amelia? To me it's a coverup excuse.
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When someone like Mr Teague says he was 'drunk and made bad texts to good people'.....is he really using that as an excuse, as in -it wasn't really me and I'm not responsible........I don't think so.

People are too quick to jump on someone that says that and claim they are using it for an excuse.......when in fact they are not.

Reasons and excuses are not the same thing.
 

60's Guy said:
We can argue forever about what an alcoholic is...
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Like the difference between a drunk and an alcoholic.........







We drunks don't haffta attend all those damned old meetings.
 

Dr.Don said:
Like the difference between a drunk and an alcoholic.........







We drunks don't haffta attend all those damned old meetings.
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So Doc what's the deal:
Too many exciting things to do in AZ?
GH comes via Pony Express?
Daughter has you chained to dishwasher?
Your posts have been few and far between.

Oh sh!t, maybe you just posted them somewhere we can't find.
 

I'm sure Dumbwood contributed heavily to the alcohol expenses.
 


Word said:
I was as angry as anyone about the NC payout, but this story about the expenses is not newsworthy. As many people have said, all of these charges listed seem reasonable. It certainly doesn't hurt for the newspaper or the University to look into it, but I don't see anything fishy here.

Funny thing about the NC payout is that Teague invited me to visit with him after I sent a letter of my displeasure about it. Talked with him and David Benedict at Bierman for an hour and they explained all their reasoning behind it. They did give me a Diet Coke while I was there. Not sure if that's in the expense reports.
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FatNTired said:
I'm a Development Director for a non-profit. Any outrage regarding his spending when fundraising for a massive campaign is laughable -- you have to spend money to raise money during a capital campaign.
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The encouraging thing to me about this non-story is that people don't seem to be flying off the handle about it. The only way this really even becomes a story if they start to find expenses that were not related to Athletic Department or fund raising activities. If he was using his expense account as a personal slush fund then there is a story. But until there is any proof of that going on (and you can bet both papers are digging really hard to find it) this is just a pointless attempt to pile on and make something out of nothing.
 

If you don't have to turn in itemized receipts, it's pretty easy to mask alcohol purchases on an expense report.
 



I just took a quick look at my expenses from 1/1 through now, and it's over $10K, and I travel alone, that's just hotels, rental cars, meals, and does not include flights, which are charged differently.

Like others, I'm really surprised that the bill is this low.
 

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