TCU home and home series confirmed 2014 and 2015

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Ole said:
-800k for UNC
+400K for lack of SDSU buyout, which was basically mandated by B1G with no more FCS
+500K for TCU away
=+100K
Unaccounted for is the 2013 so called buffer playing NMSU, which will help build the program.
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It takes some awfully creative accounting to call this a 'profit.' They still agreed to play a football game, and then paid $800K not to play said game. Had they never scheduled UNC, or had they gone ahead with the series, they could still have done this arrangement with TCU. Would Kill have agreed to play TCU and UNC in the same year? Not willingly, but that's really a seperate issue.
 

howeda7 said:
It takes some awfully creative accounting to call this a 'profit.' They still agreed to play a football game, and then paid $800K not to play said game. Had they never scheduled UNC, or had they gone ahead with the series, they could still have done this arrangement with TCU. Would Kill have agreed to play TCU and UNC in the same year? Not willingly, but that's really a seperate issue.
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Didn't we have a full 2014 schedule before cancelling UNC? We couldn't have scheduled them in the same year. Furthermore, the 2014 UNC game was at the Bank meaning that since that game is now being played at TCU, that using your more preferred direct accounting method, you subtract the Fee you would have paid UNC to come to the Bank (maybe $200K-what we're paying new mexico state to come here) and add the $500K we get for playing at TCU.
 

gophmeister said:
How much did playing USC help this program?
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I don't know how much those games helped, but they didn't hurt. Large, excited home crowd, great tailgaiting and atmosphere. Losses didn't keep us out of bowl games. We were competitive both games, and the game at USC, in particular, got Gopher fans excited about the season.
 

It's very simple. We get paid $500k to play at TCU in 2014. TCU pays $400k to SDSU and makes the trip to Minneapolis for free. We'd have had to pay SDSU if we'd kept them on the schedule. More fans will come out for TCU than SDSU so we'll make more on ticket sales, concessions, suites, advertising, parking. We might even win.
 

Dr.Don said:
Let us also not forget that Coach Kill and Coach Patterson are extremely close friends, which will add to the drama of this home and home matchup.
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+1

Kill was also best man at Patterson's wedding. They started coaching together when they were at Pittsburg State in Kansas. This should be a helluva series!
 


gophmeister said:
It's very simple. We get paid $500k to play at TCU in 2014. TCU pays $400k to SDSU and makes the trip to Minneapolis for free. We'd have had to pay SDSU if we'd kept them on the schedule. More fans will come out for TCU than SDSU so we'll make more on ticket sales, concessions, suites, advertising, parking. We might even win.
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Either the trip becomes free to the Gophers to head down to TCU or the money pays for the SDSU buyout. Not both. SDSU did not require a road game to them so it is not fair to compare the home game vs TCU with the home game for SDSU as one did not replace the other. SDSU would have been a home game where the U makes money in tickets, concession, parking, etc. @TCU will not, and we will spend a good amount of money getting the team down there. There are obviously fringe benefits to having the coaches (and team) be in Texas (ex. Recruiting) that can't be put on a balance sheet.

I'm super excited about this. Beyond the money argument being thrown around, I'm really confused how Kill/Teague can use the SOS argument any longer. UNC has certainly not been better than TCU, and one could even say TCU has been at least as good if not better over the past 4-5 seasons. A home and home with TCU will be just as hard for our team, and it's only 1 year after the UNC series was. Why is this totally cool but we felt the need to cancel a BCS series at a cost of $800k (that would have met the requirement in 2014 the Big Ten has set for SOS, btw) - couldn't we have just scheduled a TCU-like team for 2015 and 2016?
 

Personally I prefer 4 layups to start a season, but at least its not a guaranteed loss like USC. I don't see us having much hope next year AT TCU, so we better be able to find a 3rd conference victory if we want to make a bowl game.
 

AO54 said:
Didn't we have a full 2014 schedule before cancelling UNC? We couldn't have scheduled them in the same year. Furthermore, the 2014 UNC game was at the Bank meaning that since that game is now being played at TCU, that using your more preferred direct accounting method, you subtract the Fee you would have paid UNC to come to the Bank (maybe $200K-what we're paying new mexico state to come here) and add the $500K we get for playing at TCU.
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We bought out SDSU in 2015 as part of this. We could easily have done the same for 2014. Either way, we could have put TCU on the schedule in some capacity if the two schools wanted it done. None of it changes the fact that we agreed to play UNC and paid $800K to change our mind.
 

It will be nice to see TCU at The Bank....even more than NC. Life goes on.
 



howeda7 said:
We bought out SDSU in 2015 as part of this. We could easily have done the same for 2014. Either way, we could have put TCU on the schedule in some capacity if the two schools wanted it done. None of it changes the fact that we agreed to play UNC and paid $800K to change our mind.
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I swear to god if I have to see 800k typed on this board one more time.
 

RailBaronYarr said:
Either the trip becomes free to the Gophers to head down to TCU or the money pays for the SDSU buyout. Not both. SDSU did not require a road game to them so it is not fair to compare the home game vs TCU with the home game for SDSU as one did not replace the other. SDSU would have been a home game where the U makes money in tickets, concession, parking, etc. @TCU will not, and we will spend a good amount of money getting the team down there. There are obviously fringe benefits to having the coaches (and team) be in Texas (ex. Recruiting) that can't be put on a balance sheet.

I'm super excited about this. Beyond the money argument being thrown around, I'm really confused how Kill/Teague can use the SOS argument any longer. UNC has certainly not been better than TCU, and one could even say TCU has been at least as good if not better over the past 4-5 seasons. A home and home with TCU will be just as hard for our team, and it's only 1 year after the UNC series was. Why is this totally cool but we felt the need to cancel a BCS series at a cost of $800k (that would have met the requirement in 2014 the Big Ten has set for SOS, btw) - couldn't we have just scheduled a TCU-like team for 2015 and 2016?
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It's a tacit admission of "yeah, we blew it" but Teague can say, and did, that it was also because of pressure from the Big Ten. Just don't expect either Teague or Kill to come out and say that they were wrong. Like plenty of people being a stand-up guy, falls way behind "never admit a mistake."

Right now who cares? We get a good Home Game and a great road trip!
 

afurry91 said:
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I swear to god if I have to see 800k typed on this board one more time.
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I was more than ready to let that horse stay dead. But this whole 'came out ahead' BS is being pushed by the U and is right in the main article on the Star Tribune. Sorry, but it's crap. I'm glad we're playing TCU. It sounds like we got a good deal on it financially as well. They should have left it at that.
 






You can choose to like the scheduling changes and go with the glass is half-full, or can bitch about it and get a half-empty glass. I for one prefer the half-full glass plus the accounting that nets us $100K.

Go Gophers!
 

I haven't chimed in on the UNC situation until now, but I feel like I have to bitch. Those that keep complaining about $800k to get out of the series need to stop. It's chump change in the world of D-1 athletics. The B10 just payed out 27.5M to each member school. These sorts of buyouts and schedule changing happen frequently to most BCS schools. It's ridiculous to have assumed that we would drop the TarHeels and not recoup the payoff in some form or another. Kill, Teague, and Kaler are not irresponsible or un-calculated. There was a plan from the very onset of the UNC drop. Hell, UNC might be in our conference in two months. I just wish that all the petty children on this board would grow up and understand that big-boy athletics operate at a level that none of us can or will understand.....at least more than the men who are currently in charge.
 

Are there more good football players in Texas or NC. We don't want to recruit NC we do want Texas. These guys know what they are doing. Not only that, they are so far ahead of our news media it's not funny.
 

MNGoldenGophers1 said:
You can choose to like the scheduling changes and go with the glass is half-full, or can bitch about it and get a half-empty glass. I for one prefer the half-full glass plus the accounting that nets us $100K.

Go Gophers!
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I have some land I'd like to sell you. DM for details. It's a great deal, 50% off the full Norwood price!
 

It doesn't even matter if they didn't recoup all of it, they still made some money back. What's 800k vs the 25.7 million each school will receive from the Big Ten Network this year? Pocket change.
 

Nice to see us playing TCU. should be 2 good football games.
 

JoeDirt said:
I haven't chimed in on the UNC situation until now, but I feel like I have to bitch. Those that keep complaining about $800k to get out of the series need to stop. It's chump change in the world of D-1 athletics. The B10 just payed out 27.5M to each member school. These sorts of buyouts and schedule changing happen frequently to most BCS schools. It's ridiculous to have assumed that we would drop the TarHeels and not recoup the payoff in some form or another. Kill, Teague, and Kaler are not irresponsible or un-calculated. There was a plan from the very onset of the UNC drop. Hell, UNC might be in our conference in two months. I just wish that all the petty children on this board would grow up and understand that big-boy athletics operate at a level that none of us can or will understand.....at least more than the men who are currently in charge.
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Then you saying that Teague was lying today when he's said that the Big Ten desires on scheduling forced them into the move and that they were "kind of lucky" that the TCU series fell into place?

I'll take him at his word even if you find that kind of "petty".
 

littlebigboy said:
Are there more good football players in Texas or NC. We don't want to recruit NC we do want Texas. These guys know what they are doing. Not only that, they are so far ahead of our news media it's not funny.
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Bingo! We have some Texas players on the roster and I'm sure they want to expose Minnesota to more Texas kids. As far as the money, this is like monopoly money in the whole scheme of things compared to our budget and it happens all the time.
 

gregbrady said:
Bingo! We have some Texas players on the roster and I'm sure they want to expose Minnesota to more Texas kids. As far as the money, this is like monopoly money in the whole scheme of things compared to our budget and it happens all the time.
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This! The winner is recruiting!!! I thought that the minute I saw that we would be playing TCU. Way off topic, Maybe the ghost of Wacker had a hand in this as well.... Didn't he coach at TCU too?
 


Lakeville Goldy said:
According to the Pioneer Press, the U was going to pay SDSU $400,000 if we did play them. According the them, cancelling that game saved the $400,000. Don't know who is correct.

http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_23189880/gophers-football-tcu-south-dakota-state-out-unc

I am still very disappointed with the UNC decision. But I will still support the program. And I'm glad they found a way to recoup the money, whether it was 100% real or partially smoke and mirrors.
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Every game has a buyout, at every level. It's probably not the $400,000 SDSU was going to get, but I am 99.99% sure it wasn't nothing. Not even bunnies are that stupid.
 

Ole said:
-800k for UNC
+400K for lack of SDSU buyout, which was basically mandated by B1G with no more FCS+500K for TCU away
=+100K
Unaccounted for is the 2013 so called buffer playing NMSU, which will help build the program.
Take me through it another way?
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I highly doubt that. The no-FCS deal doesn't kick in until 2016 and then they get paid for the buyout equal to what they would have made. This according to the Iowa AD.
 

It is likely my opinion, but isn't TCU a better team than UNC? I didn't give crap when they bought out UNC. This has left me scratching my head.
 

What is the buy out here at the GopherHole?

Coolew01 said:
It is likely my opinion, but isn't TCU a better team than UNC? I didn't give crap when they bought out UNC. This has left me scratching my head.
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Coolew01 - I wish they had a buy out here for this topic. My god how many times do people want to say the same things over and over again. On second thought, don't answer that question.:horse:
 

To all the NC whiners; In Kaler, Kill, and Teague I trust. It's a hell of a lot better combination than any other this school has seen in my 30 years of fandom. Hopefully you can stop bitching about it now.
 

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