Pompous Elitist
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No, it's not.
No, it's saying that Fleck wanted to red-shirt guys for the future last year. If he recruits someone and they prove to be the starter so be it, but year one for coaches is always a throw away year for needing to win.
Only for coaches who are insecure and have to inflate their importance to a program.
Look, if a coach wants to take a long-term view toward building a program, that is perfectly legitimate. Just be honest about it.
If Morgan was the 'best' QB on the roster last year, but they held him out of competition to save a red-shirt year, be honest about it.
The fans are paying real money for tickets. They don't get a rebate for a "throw-away" year. The businesses that advertise on the TV and radio broadcasts are paying real money for ad rates. They don't get a rebate for a "throw-away" year.
The whole concept of a throw-away year is BS in my book. The coaches - every season - should be doing whatever they can - within reason - to win games. If that means you burn a red-shirt to play a kid, because that kid gives the team a better chance to win, you burn the red-shirt.
Look, if a coach wants to take a long-term view toward building a program, that is perfectly legitimate. Just be honest about it.
If Morgan was the 'best' QB on the roster last year, but they held him out of competition to save a red-shirt year, be honest about it.
The fans are paying real money for tickets. They don't get a rebate for a "throw-away" year. The businesses that advertise on the TV and radio broadcasts are paying real money for ad rates. They don't get a rebate for a "throw-away" year.
The whole concept of a throw-away year is BS in my book. The coaches - every season - should be doing whatever they can - within reason - to win games. If that means you burn a red-shirt to play a kid, because that kid gives the team a better chance to win, you burn the red-shirt.
Look, if a coach wants to take a long-term view toward building a program, that is perfectly legitimate. Just be honest about it.
If Morgan was the 'best' QB on the roster last year, but they held him out of competition to save a red-shirt year, be honest about it.
The fans are paying real money for tickets. They don't get a rebate for a "throw-away" year. The businesses that advertise on the TV and radio broadcasts are paying real money for ad rates. They don't get a rebate for a "throw-away" year.
The whole concept of a throw-away year is BS in my book. The coaches - every season - should be doing whatever they can - within reason - to win games. If that means you burn a red-shirt to play a kid, because that kid gives the team a better chance to win, you burn the red-shirt.
I like your take but it’s missing something...logic. Ever heard of the three pigs? They all build houses, one real quick because he was living for the now, the other was more patient and gathered better materials and made a pretty good house, and the third took the time and spent the money and energy to build a sturdy brick house. There are literally thousands of scenarios where it’s better to sacrifice now to see a bigger payoff later.
I think fleck has been pretty clear that he is playing the long game and he’s been pretty up front about it. I have no problem with redshirting a qb for the sake of the future , especially since he’s been pretty clear that was the plan.
I like your take but it’s missing something...logic. Ever heard of the three pigs? They all build houses, one real quick because he was living for the now, the other was more patient and gathered better materials and made a pretty good house, and the third took the time and spent the money and energy to build a sturdy brick house. There are literally thousands of scenarios where it’s better to sacrifice now to see a bigger payoff later.
I think fleck has been pretty clear that he is playing the long game and he’s been pretty up front about it. I have no problem with redshirting a qb for the sake of the future , especially since he’s been pretty clear that was the plan.
I like your take but it’s missing something...logic. Ever heard of the three pigs? They all build houses, one real quick because he was living for the now, the other was more patient and gathered better materials and made a pretty good house, and the third took the time and spent the money and energy to build a sturdy brick house. There are literally thousands of scenarios where it’s better to sacrifice now to see a bigger payoff later.
I think fleck has been pretty clear that he is playing the long game and he’s been pretty up front about it. I have no problem with redshirting a qb for the sake of the future , especially since he’s been pretty clear that was the plan.
There is no doubt in my mind that Morgan could have been the starter last year, but there was no reason to hinder the future of the program in playing him. This year it will be the best QB on the field no matter what. There is no reason to sit the best option.
Good take. Putting a freshman QB in behind last year's line, would be foolish. Very few freshman have the maturity to handle the mental and physical aspect of the game; on top of that defenses who are teeing off on us would possibly be a career ender. Even if he didn't take a lot of hits, constantly hearing footsteps is a real issue and usually results in bad habits (like the Yips or tucking too early).
Far better to wait as maturity and practice alieviate most of the freshman type issues. He may have been ready, But with that line, it would have been a high risk, low reward proposition.
Morgan may be better this year than what we saw last year at QB. But that doesn't prove he would have been better last year.
This is a really tough decision.
For the sake of argument, let's assume that Morgan would have been equal to Connor Rhoda last year (or even slightly better). I know that's a big IF, but just for the sake of conversation.
Let's say the staff sees Morgan and thinks that he really isn't ready as a freshman. He could be as good as Rhoda, but he wouldn't be incredibly successful. Our OL struggles, our WRs struggle, it's just not going to be an incredibly difficult spot for a freshman QB. At the same time, the staff thinks Morgan could really develop into a good QB.
There is a legit argument that you compare Morgan's 5th season vs. Morgan's 1st season and NOT to compare Morgan vs. Rhoda/Croft. This analysis goes out the window if Morgan is clearly the best option and ready to play.
At the end of the day, I don't think gaining experience is really that beneficial if the situation is really tough (like ours would have been last year). I don't think Demry's experience in 2015 helped him last year. So, I don't think that he is necessarily any less ready this year than if he had played 30% of the snaps last year. I also don't like the argument that I've seen on here that you don't worry about redshirting Morgan because we will probably get a better recruit in 2019/2020. That's silly. We have no idea what's going to happen. Let's assume Tanner is a really solid college QB, we will all be grateful in 2021 that he was RS.
You can only judge the decision making based on what we know at the time. For example, I don't think it made Kill's decision to burn Connor Mayes' redshirt any wiser because Mayes never ended up playing 4 years of football.
What could have been had Philip Nelson been red shirted?
Morgan not being red shirted last year would have been a lost cause for reasons Bob_L just stated. But, it is really hard to tell. It depends on attitude and how you handle failure. Philip Nelson didn't handle it well.
IMHO, Vicious Vic, V-Cap'n Morgan, and ZickA are the best three options at QB we've seen in a long time.
IMHO, Vicious Vic, V-Cap'n Morgan, and ZickA are the best three options at QB we've seen in a long time.
What is this opinion based on?
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A senior moment. [emoji782]
Who will emerge out of the three?
Cap'n Morgan (lists 6' 2" 205 lbs) need a little bit of rum and meat on him.
Vicious Vic (lists 6' 1" 215 lbs) has a cannon arm, did someone say he drop weight?.
ZickA at 6' 3" 215 lbs (closest in size to Mitch Leidner who was 6' 4" 230 lbs)
Can't wait for the Spring Game. Yeah, serving up some Mojo Plays instead of RUTMs will be great. How much of that will be held back to keep it vanilla? Will we see a glimpse of what our passing game will be like?
Saying that means Morgan will be the best QB we will recruit in the next 3 years. I don't believe that, as I think PJ is going to recruit even better QB prospects in the coming years. Had Morgan been better than Croft or Rhoda, he should have played. If Zack Annexstad turns out to be the best QB, after this spring and the fall, then he should be named the starter. This saving players for the future talk is BS.