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Minnesota has really boofed-the-pooch when it comes to maintaining the level of demand for tickets. Basically, the U has done everything in its power to assure that the market value of tickets plummeted over the last 2 years.

Forget losing. That was only part of it. The way the "waitlist" for season tickets was administered was an embarrassing train-wreck.

The U figured they were in the clear and had done everything they needed to do when TCF sold-out in 2008. That's when they fell-asleep at the wheel.

I think there may be a chance at redemption in the near future. Hopefully they don't f-it-up again.
 

Tubtastic said:
Another point too. As much as I hate to do it, I will likely give up my two season tickets. Last year I had to give up one of my two sets of Gopher season tickets due to my increased expenses of raising two young kids under 3 (I had basketball and football tickets). I decided to give up the basketball tix since football games are easier to get to (bad decision, I know).

Now, I'm planning on getting basketball tickets and dropping football. The point being I'm a huge Gopher fan but I only have so much money to spend.
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Understand your situation. I split 2 season hockey tickets with a friend and have football tickets. Would love to add hoops to the mix, but the budget is stretched thin with 2 kids in day care. Maybe in a few years.
 

Tubtastic said:
Another point too. As much as I hate to do it, I will likely give up my two season tickets. Last year I had to give up one of my two sets of Gopher season tickets due to my increased expenses of raising two young kids under 3 (I had basketball and football tickets). I decided to give up the basketball tix since football games are easier to get to (bad decision, I know).

Now, I'm planning on getting basketball tickets and dropping football. The point being I'm a huge Gopher fan but I only have so much money to spend.
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What can you do? I think your logic makes sense. You're not dropping them in a "woe is me" freakout. You're simply choosing which set of Gopher tix you would enjoy more with the limited money you have to spend.

And frankly, right now you shouldn't have any issues getting seats to the FB games you want to go to anyway.
 

not giving them up, but probably moving to non-donation seats.
 

Goldmember said:
Minnesota has really boofed-the-pooch when it comes to maintaining the level of demand for tickets. Basically, the U has done everything in its power to assure that the market value of tickets plummeted over the last 2 years.

Forget losing. That was only part of it. The way the "waitlist" for season tickets was administered was an embarrassing train-wreck.

The U figured they were in the clear and had done everything they needed to do when TCF sold-out in 2008. That's when they fell-asleep at the wheel.

I think there may be a chance at redemption in the near future. Hopefully they don't f-it-up again.
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I hear you on this. This is one of many areas that I hope will be improved upon with a new AD at the helm. The athletic department is a $75 million dollar business and needs to be run that way.
 


It's more than the coach...

glovedgopher said:
I'm not worried about the people around me judging me because they are never the same people from week to week. I would be disappointed in myself and the tickets are right next to me. I cheer with passion and that could cause a little friction with the people I sold my tickets to. Although I must say the Iowa fans that sat behind me didn't complain once about me standing which was nice. They did call Troy S a fag which wasn't so cool.
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Sparlimb said:
I'm undecided yet and have another 4 months, if I remember correctly, to decide. I'm certainly all for giving Kill a chance, not that any of us have a choice. My tickets are bought in conjunction with a buddy, so it will be a group decision between him and his spouse as well as me and mine. As many here have said, my initial anger is over. We went cheap again on a HC, but the guy gets his chance to show what he can do.
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1. That Fag can sure hit. :horse:

2. Anyone that bases their desire to have season tickets on "who the coach is"...well, I don't understand that. I'm on coach #4 with my season tickets, and I have gone from 1 to 6 tickets in that span. It's University of Minnesota football, not Glen Mason or Jerry Kill football. I support the kids and the staff. I cannot decide who the coach is, or even if he stays or goes. I love the pagentry as much as the games.

You buying or not buying a season ticket DOES NOT influence the U's decisions, contrary to public opinion. This is not pro football. This team is not going anywhere. Yes, lower attendance is lower income for the U. This is their problem. They must work all angles to maximize profit. There are plenty of successful programs that continue to have attendance issues--TCU, Cincy and Pitt come to mind.

The bigger problem is the typical Gopher fans themselves. I think we got into an "off-campus dome funk" 30 years ago and it will take time to bring it back. I have my moments. The NDSU and South Dakota games make you think about it. The Iowa game brings you back.

Let's not be part of the problem, let's be part of the solution. Some day, we will look back on this and say "I was there, I helped get us to where we are today".
 

glovedgopher said:
Although I must say the Iowa fans that sat behind me didn't complain once about me standing which was nice. They did call Troy S a fag which wasn't so cool.
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I'm surprised that in 2010 people still drop the (other) f-bomb like that... even though we're talking about Iowans.
 

highwayman said:
There are plenty of successful programs that continue to have attendance issues--TCU, Cincy and Pitt come to mind.

The bigger problem is the typical Gopher fans themselves. I think we got into an "off-campus dome funk" 30 years ago and it will take time to bring it back. I have my moments. The NDSU and South Dakota games make you think about it. The Iowa game brings you back.
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The biggest reason TCU, Cincy and Pitt are considered "successful" is that they play in crappy conferences. Yes, TCU is probably legitimate this year; but they have built a reputation for winning largely because they have spent several years amassing wins against horrible programs. The Gophers don't really have that luxury because of the 8 Big Ten games, and the fact that this saturated market probably requires at least one marquee OOC game.

I think Kill can get this program back to the level it was at under Mason. At that point, this town is going to have a choice to make. Will people support the program or will they mock the program like they did the last go-around? If they don't chose the former, building a conference-contender here will never be possible.

I would think the 2003 Gophers would have destroyed UConn-2010. The Big Ten is just not that easy. In some conferences you can just be "good" and win conference titles. (In the Big East you can be mediocre or even bad.) But that just doesn't happen in the Big Ten. People need to understand this and be realistic about it.
 

Tubtastic said:
Another point too. As much as I hate to do it, I will likely give up my two season tickets. Last year I had to give up one of my two sets of Gopher season tickets due to my increased expenses of raising two young kids under 3 (I had basketball and football tickets). I decided to give up the basketball tix since football games are easier to get to (bad decision, I know).

Now, I'm planning on getting basketball tickets and dropping football. The point being I'm a huge Gopher fan but I only have so much money to spend.
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Have you thought about splitting season tickets with a friend? Then you could have season tickets to both basketball and football. You'd each get to go to about half the basketball and football games. Just a thought.

I'm trying to convince one of my buddies to go in with me on 2 football tickets for next year. I live too far away to be able to make all 7, but could make 4, maybe 5.
 



Why make the commitment to purchase season tickets at $60 each when scalpers onsite were selling $60 tickets for $10 each for the Iowa game? Expect low atttendance at The Bank until Coach Kill actually starts winning games.
 

Golden Shower said:
Why make the commitment to purchase season tickets at $60 each when scalpers onsite were selling $60 tickets for $10 each for the Iowa game? Expect low atttendance at The Bank until Coach Kill actually starts winning games.
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That's a very good argument. The only reason to keep your tickets or buy a package is the possibility that they may become scarce in the future. Kill does have a track record of turning programs around quickly and this team isn't without talent. Let's say they're 5-1 going into the first big ten home game. You might end up on the outside looking in. We'll have to wait and see.
 

Golden Shower said:
Why make the commitment to purchase season tickets at $60 each when scalpers onsite were selling $60 tickets for $10 each for the Iowa game?
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gophmeister said:
That's a very good argument. The only reason to keep your tickets or buy a package is the possibility that they may become scarce in the future. Kill does have a track record of turning programs around quickly and this team isn't without talent. Let's say they're 5-1 going into the first big ten home game. You might end up on the outside looking in. We'll have to wait and see.
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I won’t purport to answer for anyone but myself, but I purchase season tickets to support the program. I know that it doesn’t make purely economic sense to purchase season tickets for Gopher football (or Gopher basketball, hockey or any other team in town or most other places). You can almost always find tickets for almost every game for less than the season ticket holder paid for them. Even at Target Field this year, discounted tickets were available in the secondary market for most of the games I attended. You will come out ahead by paying as you go (and will only have tickets for the games you really want to see). Demand would increase if Kill is successful, but the purely economic analysis isn’t going to change unless the Gophers start going to Rose Bowls, and even then it will be temporary.

So, if you can’t justify the expense, or simply don’t want to “overpay” for tickets, you shouldn’t be a season ticket holder. But that’s why I do it.
 

2nd Degree Gopher said:
I won’t purport to answer for anyone but myself, but I purchase season tickets to support the program. I know that it doesn’t make purely economic sense to purchase season tickets for Gopher football (or Gopher basketball, hockey or any other team in town or most other places). You can almost always find tickets for almost every game for less than the season ticket holder paid for them. Even at Target Field this year, discounted tickets were available in the secondary market for most of the games I attended. You will come out ahead by paying as you go (and will only have tickets for the games you really want to see). Demand would increase if Kill is successful, but the purely economic analysis isn’t going to change unless the Gophers start going to Rose Bowls, and even then it will be temporary.

So, if you can’t justify the expense, or simply don’t want to “overpay” for tickets, you shouldn’t be a season ticket holder. But that’s why I do it.
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That's me too.
 



GoAUpher said:
That's me too.
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Same. There's no economic justification for it, but I get excited every spring when I get to log on and renew the tickets. That's worth a few extra bucks right there.

Plus, I really, really like our seats.
 

FrothyGopher said:
Plus, I really, really like our seats.
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And this. I like knowing where we'll be sitting and in some cases, like knowing the folks around us. Well, most of the folks around us. I could really do without the obnoxious dude in my row who yells SKI-U-MAH!!!!! at the top of his lungs for no reason at all at random times. (side note: I'd care less about the Ski-U-Mah thing if his seats weren't always empty until the point in the game that the Gophers make it close. Magically he appears at that point before leaving early. It is almost as if he stays in the tailgate lot listening to the radio and waits till the Gophers are playing better before he comes to cheer. Odd...)
 

Our seats aren't the greatest, but we have six on the aisle, and it's tough to move with that many people and still keep the aisle. So we stayed put last year, and we'll see this year if enough people bail for us to move. But we like the people we're around, so I have no problem staying there.
 

Its in my blood. I do not know how happy I am with the state of the program, but I will be there in 2011! I hope this new guy can recruit. I think he can coach.
Go Gophers!
 

I'm with 2nd Degree Gopher.

I will also add that I was on the fence, however, about renewing after last season. I go to many Twins games and a few Vikes games every year and also Gopher BB. That all adds up and my thought was to drop Gopher FB and the Vikes and just get Gopher hoops tix. Butnow I think I'm just going to drop the Vikes and keep the full season of football. I'm excited by the hire because I like Jerry Kill. Some don't I'm sure ... but I'm on board.
 


Goldmember said:
Minnesota has really boofed-the-pooch when it comes to maintaining the level of demand for tickets. Basically, the U has done everything in its power to assure that the market value of tickets plummeted over the last 2 years.

Forget losing. That was only part of it. The way the "waitlist" for season tickets was administered was an embarrassing train-wreck.

The U figured they were in the clear and had done everything they needed to do when TCF sold-out in 2008. That's when they fell-asleep at the wheel.

I think there may be a chance at redemption in the near future. Hopefully they don't f-it-up again.
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They could start by getting cash registers in the stadium for year 3. What an embarassment...
 

Goldmember said:
Minnesota has really boofed-the-pooch when it comes to maintaining the level of demand for tickets. Basically, the U has done everything in its power to assure that the market value of tickets plummeted over the last 2 years.

Forget losing. That was only part of it. The way the "waitlist" for season tickets was administered was an embarrassing train-wreck.

The U figured they were in the clear and had done everything they needed to do when TCF sold-out in 2008. That's when they fell-asleep at the wheel.

I think there may be a chance at redemption in the near future. Hopefully they don't f-it-up again.
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Great point. The U couldn't have screwed up the ticket situation any worse. I expect almost everyone with season tickets being able to upgrade location next year. She ain't gonna be full.
 


We decided to keep our tickets too. We have 6 of us that come up from Rochester, so it's a way for us to get to the "Cities" in the Fall, catch the game and see our kids. I have a son at the U and my brother has two daughters there, and my brother-in-law has a daughter there too. Plus my brother and I are alums.

We were somwhat hesitant about renewing, but after watcing Jerry's press conference I was fired up as was the rest of the group. So once again you can find us in Sec. 117!
 

Goldmember said:
The biggest reason TCU, Cincy and Pitt are considered "successful" is that they play in crappy conferences. Yes, TCU is probably legitimate this year; but they have built a reputation for winning largely because they have spent several years amassing wins against horrible programs. The Gophers don't really have that luxury because of the 8 Big Ten games, and the fact that this saturated market probably requires at least one marquee OOC game.

I think Kill can get this program back to the level it was at under Mason. At that point, this town is going to have a choice to make. Will people support the program or will they mock the program like they did the last go-around? If they don't chose the former, building a conference-contender here will never be possible.

I would think the 2003 Gophers would have destroyed UConn-2010. The Big Ten is just not that easy. In some conferences you can just be "good" and win conference titles. (In the Big East you can be mediocre or even bad.) But that just doesn't happen in the Big Ten. People need to understand this and be realistic about it.
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if this is why kill is now our coach we should all be ashamed! mason years were ok at best but i will pray for the better. we have a group of 4 with our tickets and they will be renewed but i intend on selling my 2 tickets to family this season since im going to southern cal and that is going to be a spendy trip
 

Why would you sell with the games we got next year. I personally am really excited to see us start playing Nebraska again. And then if the Vikes don't play next year...
 

I certainly did not continue to be a gopher fan based on coaches like Gutekunst, Wacker, Mason or Brew, so I am not sure why another new coach would change anything. Even if we have Goldy coaching this team, I would still renew my tickets. I can't help it. The whole atmosphere of tailgating and saturday afternoons in the fall is just way too much fun; if you can't get excited about that, then I feel bad for you.

If you're having trouble getting into the spirit for gopher games, I recommend coming earlier and staying later. You'll enjoy the experience a lot more, and realize it is not always about wins and losses.
 

Cash Registers

Sparlimb said:
They could start by getting cash registers in the stadium for year 3. What an embarassment...
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You must have not been to any games this year. Had 'em. Look before you leap, dude...
 

GopherHomer said:
It's just too much fun tailgating and then watching an outdoor sporting event to give up the tickets unless my financial situation takes a huge turn for the worse. The on-field product has little or nothing to do with the decision...it's about being with friends and supporting the same cause. Everything else just seems petty compared to that.
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Well said.

It's either that or I'm a raging alcoholic who likes to hang out with people who support his addiction.
 

2nd Degree Gopher said:
I won’t purport to answer for anyone but myself, but I purchase season tickets to support the program. I know that it doesn’t make purely economic sense to purchase season tickets for Gopher football (or Gopher basketball, hockey or any other team in town or most other places). You can almost always find tickets for almost every game for less than the season ticket holder paid for them. Even at Target Field this year, discounted tickets were available in the secondary market for most of the games I attended. You will come out ahead by paying as you go (and will only have tickets for the games you really want to see). Demand would increase if Kill is successful, but the purely economic analysis isn’t going to change unless the Gophers start going to Rose Bowls, and even then it will be temporary.

So, if you can’t justify the expense, or simply don’t want to “overpay” for tickets, you shouldn’t be a season ticket holder. But that’s why I do it.
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GopherJack said:
We decided to keep our tickets too. We have 6 of us that come up from Rochester, so it's a way for us to get to the "Cities" in the Fall, catch the game and see our kids. I have a son at the U and my brother has two daughters there, and my brother-in-law has a daughter there too. Plus my brother and I are alums.

We were somwhat hesitant about renewing, but after watcing Jerry's press conference I was fired up as was the rest of the group. So once again you can find us in Sec. 117!
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Ditto on both of these (but we were not hesitant about renewing). We drive down from Grand Rapids and visit the son and the grandkids. Last year I took the grandson to one game and he loved it. BTW we don't tail-gate at all but we do come early to catch the band pregame (especially when it was 1 hr b4 the game, 2 hrs is too early!).

At the last game, the people around us (Sec 135) said they were renewing, maybe hoping to get better seats. Don't think anything has happened to change their minds.
 


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