Sid: There is no doubt that Weber can make Leidner a better quarterback.

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per Sid:

• Former Gophers and NFL quarterback Adam Weber and current Gophers quarterback Mitch Leidner are working out a lot together in the Gibson-Nagurski Football Complex. Weber, who has signed to play for Saskatchewan in the Canadian Football League, was ranked with the smartest QBs to wear the maroon and gold in recent history. There is no doubt that Weber can make Leidner a better quarterback.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/260556461.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue

Go Gophers!!
 

BleedGopher said:
per Sid:

• Former Gophers and NFL quarterback Adam Weber and current Gophers quarterback Mitch Leidner are working out a lot together in the Gibson-Nagurski Football Complex. Weber, who has signed to play for Saskatchewan in the Canadian Football League, was ranked with the smartest QBs to wear the maroon and gold in recent history. There is no doubt that Weber can make Leidner a better quarterback.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/260556461.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue

Go Gophers!!
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Was ranked by who? How recent?

I genuinely like Weber, and he may be one of the smartest QBs in NCAA history for all I know, but whomever wrote this for Sid is clearly pulling this out of their butt.
 

Unregistered User said:
Was ranked by who? How recent?

I genuinely like Weber, and he may be one of the smartest QBs in NCAA history for all I know, but whomever wrote this for Sid is clearly pulling this out of their butt.
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Sid probably means the last four or five years. If you pressed Sid, he'd probably say it was a top ten list.
 

Unregistered User said:
Was ranked by who? How recent?

I genuinely like Weber, and he may be one of the smartest QBs in NCAA history for all I know, but whomever wrote this for Sid is clearly pulling this out of their butt.
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Sid probably means the last four or five years. If you pressed Sid, he'd probably say it was a top ten list.
 

I think you guys are missing Sid's point. Weber and Leidner are working out in the Gopher's NEW practice facility.
 


Schnauzer said:
I think you guys are missing Sid's point. Weber and Leidner are working out in the Gopher's NEW practice facility.
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Now THAT was funny.

This could be something as simple as GPA based numbers.
 


Unregistered User said:
Was ranked by who? How recent?

I genuinely like Weber, and he may be one of the smartest QBs in NCAA history for all I know, but whomever wrote this for Sid is clearly pulling this out of their butt.
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Sid got it from his "close personal friend" wren. I am just joking wren.;)
 

Killjoy said:
Sid got it from his "close personal friend" wren. I am just joking wren.;)
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Most everything you have ever said about me has been a bold-faced lie, killjoy. That's right: I am calling you out on your untruthfulness. I have NEVER formally met Mr. Hartman. When it comes to you telling lies about me, you obviously can't help yourself, can you killjoy?

Not that I care, because you are really BAD at what you do.

I'll tell you what: This fall I think it would be good for us to spend a half an hour talking before a Gopher Football Game. You can tell me, to my face what you think of me and I will tell you to your face what I think of you. There could be a chance to "clear the air" once in for ever or we could continue to take pot-shots at each other. (I must admit that I pretty much let everything you say go without a response because you are just such a pain in the a$$ and attach yourself to many of my posts. You just are NOT worth the effort. But, the thing is, perhaps it would be better to look each other in the eye and find out if we both just have toilet stool personalities on this message site or if we might actually share a love for Golden Gopher Football
and might not be such big pains in the a$$ to each other as comes off on this site.

Quite frankly: I am tired of it. I am sure a LOT of other posters on this board are tired of it too. And, while we are at it: I think it is time for Kelly Leeks to show up at this peace conference as well. Maybe even rescooter, unregistered user and eg#9 and anyone else who always has a problem with me...as well as I with them.

I'm willing to do this. In fact, I think it would be a damn good idea. Maybe we could even do it as a fund raiser for GOPHERHOLE Donations! We could take pledges for GOPHERHOLE (the site).

At any rate, it might be worth a try. What the heck: if it doesn't go well, you could ramp up your lie-telling campaign against me killjoy.

Let's either get to the bottom of all this crap and realize there is no need for this bull slinging that goes on OR let it confirm the reasons for continuing all this ill-will. Actually, I'm a pretty damn nice old guy...maybe you are too, killjoy. But, enough is probably too much as far as I am concerned. So, you pick the time and the place.



Have a nice Sunday, killjoy.
 




Who Cares.

Sid is loyal to his "friends," often to a fault. He likes Weber, so he writes (or ghost-writes) good things about him. Same with Ponder.

Honestly, I'm willing to bet that Leidner can benefit from working out with Weber. In comparing the two, I would say that Leidner has more raw physical ability than Weber - but he needs to learn a lot about the decision-making aspects of being a full-time QB. If Weber can help him with that, more power to him. For as much as some of us (myself included) criticized Weber, the guy did go through a revolving door of coordinators and systems. Leidner is (hopefully) going to play his entire career under 1 coaching staff and 1 system. I think Weber likely learned a few things along the way that he can pass to Leidner.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Who Cares.

Sid is loyal to his "friends," often to a fault. He likes Weber, so he writes (or ghost-writes) good things about him. Same with Ponder.

Honestly, I'm willing to bet that Leidner can benefit from working out with Weber. In comparing the two, I would say that Leidner has more raw physical ability than Weber - but he needs to learn a lot about the decision-making aspects of being a full-time QB. If Weber can help him with that, more power to him. For as much as some of us (myself included) criticized Weber, the guy did go through a revolving door of coordinators and systems. Leidner is (hopefully) going to play his entire career under 1 coaching staff and 1 system. I think Weber likely learned a few things along the way that he can pass to Leidner.
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My sentiments as well.
 

Wren

Killjoy said:
Sid got it from his "close personal friend" wren. I am just joking wren.;)
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wren - I just read your post and response to my original post above. In it, you covered a lot of territory so I want to think about it a little before I give you a serious reply. I am a little surprised at your reaction to this particular comment. It was said in jest and wasn't meant to be so much about you as a comment about Sid's sources. Also, your offer of an olive branch felt or read much more like a declaration of war than a peace offering. That is not how you want to start a process like this.
 



Killjoy said:
wren - I just read your post and response to my original post above. In it, you covered a lot of territory so I want to think about it a little before I give you a serious reply. I am little surprised at your reaction to it. It was said in jest and wasn't meant to be much more about Sid than you. Also, your offer of an olive branch felt or read much more like a declaration of war than a peace offering. That is not a good way to start this process.
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That is how Jeffrey Dahmer started out.
 


Some of these posts remind me of some of the people I've worked with over the years in that they find negative even in a good thing. I'm all for (if supported by Kill and staff) people helping people to help make our program better.

Go Gophers!
 

Anyone else look at wren's responses for length before deciding to read or not? Not meant to be a rip (although I get why it seems that way), I seriously make the decision based on that.
 

Spoofin said:
Anyone else look at wren's responses for length before deciding to read or not? Not meant to be a rip (although I get why it seems that way), I seriously make the decision based on that.
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Look, wren has a lot to say and he says alot.
 

Leidner can absolutely learn an IMMENSE amount from Weber. In the words of (the albeit half-senile) Joe Paterno during the last game Weber played against PSU, "that kid's played a lot of football". Leidner can learn a significant amount from Weber, good bad and otherwise. Weber started a boatload of games, playing for the same University, and doing it under the scrutiny of the same worthless media market of MSP. Leidner can learn a lot from Adam and I hope he can take advantage of it.

Spoofin said:
Anyone else look at wren's responses for length before deciding to read or not? Not meant to be a rip (although I get why it seems that way), I seriously make the decision based on that.
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Every single time. Wren fails to understand that the internet is the home of the short attention span. The sad thing is, I'm sure every now and then there are some good nuggets in there but I don't have the time nor the inclination to read anything of his that is longer than a couple paragraphs.
 

As Randy Newman sang: "short attention-span people got nobody..."

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Leidner can absolutely learn an IMMENSE amount from Weber. In the words of (the albeit half-senile) Joe Paterno during the last game Weber played against PSU, "that kid's played a lot of football". Leidner can learn a significant amount from Weber, good bad and otherwise. Weber started a boatload of games, playing for the same University, and doing it under the scrutiny of the same worthless media market of MSP. Leidner can learn a lot from Adam and I hope he can take advantage of it.



Every single time. Wren fails to understand that the internet is the home of the short attention span. The sad thing is, I'm sure every now and then there are some good nuggets in there but I don't have the time nor the inclination to read anything of his that is longer than a couple paragraphs.
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The beauty of a post that is a bit longer is that short attention-span people are NOT my targeted audience any way. They have so little to say about anything. Just a line here and maybe a line there. And they appear to be very short on tolerance for anyone who does not fit their short attention span mold. It's all good though. I am not enticed to read very many of those "one liner" types of posts, if I must say so myself.

At any rate: do as you wish short attention-span people. You may read my posts or you don't have to read my posts. It's entirely up to you. It has NOTHING to do with me or my post. Just because you are the way you are does not mean you can impose your short attention-spans on everyone else. You just go ahead and do what ever your short-little attention-span allows you to do.

No hard feelings either way...
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Who Cares.

Sid is loyal to his "friends," often to a fault. He likes Weber, so he writes (or ghost-writes) good things about him. Same with Ponder.

Honestly, I'm willing to bet that Leidner can benefit from working out with Weber. In comparing the two, I would say that Leidner has more raw physical ability than Weber - but he needs to learn a lot about the decision-making aspects of being a full-time QB. If Weber can help him with that, more power to him. For as much as some of us (myself included) criticized Weber, the guy did go through a revolving door of coordinators and systems. Leidner is (hopefully) going to play his entire career under 1 coaching staff and 1 system. I think Weber likely learned a few things along the way that he can pass to Leidner.
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It would appear to me that based upon the results of the first three seasons that just working with the staff qb coach has not turned out so well with the development of the qb's based upon the reaction by this board to all of the lads who played qb during that time...not to mention the turnover at the qb position.

I would say that Mr. Weber will provide a whole different approach for still another young and lacking in experience quarterback. Mr. Weber constantly had changing coaches and offenses and my Gophers have had constantly changing quarterbacks each season.

I like that young, inexperienced Mr. Leidner is working with the still young very experienced Mr. Weber. How on earth can it not help? Thanks to Mr. Weber for continuing to go above and beyond the call of duty, loyalty and dedication to the players and the coaches of my Golden Gopher Football Team!
 

If these coaches can enhance his natural playmaking ability I'm all for it. Too often coaches try to change too much and end up having the kids think to much. Leidner primarily needs to a) get rid of the ball faster, and b) protect the ball as a runner. He will gradually learn defenses and progressions through experience. If they start trying to tinker with his theowing motion etc that scares the crap out of me.
 

How many passes has Leidner completed down the field...more than 15 yards in 2013? Legit question
 

Looking at his stats, at least 9 completions 15+yds out of 78. His ypa isn't terrible. He throws a nice deep ball. That wasn't the problem last year.
 

Can I get through one post without the "Blah, blah, wren types to long of posts" crap?... Wren then goes on a diatribe in defence, then it turns into a 2 page verbal pissing contest that has NOTHING to do with the original post. Why don't you guys who constantly derail the posts meet at a bar, get drunk and bitch slap each other until one of you is named king of the "Pay attention to me" posters?
 

Weber got to throw to Eric Decker. Nelson's a four year starter if he had that as a target (assuming he isn't in jail) The last four quarterbacks threw half their passes to frickin Freckte. Nelson had one legitimate wide receiver for half of one season until the kid got hurt and looked like a rock star compared to his previous performances. Hopefully whoever is throwing the ball this year has better targets than previous years.
 

Lordshawesome said:
Can I get through one post without the "Blah, blah, wren types to long of posts" crap?... Wren then goes on a diatribe in defence, then it turns into a 2 page verbal pissing contest that has NOTHING to do with the original post. Why don't you guys who constantly derail the posts meet at a bar, get drunk and bitch slap each other until one of you is named king of the "Pay attention to me" posters?
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So you're whining about people seeking attention by seeking attention yourself?

Oh, the ironing.
 

LakerFan said:
The last four quarterbacks threw half their passes to frickin Freckte.
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Quite the Gopher fan you are.

Assuming you meant Fruechte, given that he has 32 career receptions, and assuming a 50% completion rate (just for giggles), does that mean we've thrown the ball a total of 128 times in the last 2 years?
 

Lordshawesome said:
Can I get through one post without the "Blah, blah, wren types to long of posts" crap?... Wren then goes on a diatribe in defence, then it turns into a 2 page verbal pissing contest that has NOTHING to do with the original post. Why don't you guys who constantly derail the posts meet at a bar, get drunk and bitch slap each other until one of you is named king of the "Pay attention to me" posters?
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^^^ Thread hijacker
 

God I love following GH looking for comments worthy of dpodoll awards.
 

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