Shama: Gophers finished 10th in Big Ten attendance this year

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per Shama:

Not only is the NIT not a strong gate attraction but Minnesota’s home attendance has been declining for decades. For the 2013-14 season the Gophers averaged 12,329 for 18 home games, ranking 10th in the 12-team Big Ten. Williams Arena capacity is 14,625. Only Northwestern at 6,719 and Penn State, 6,500, averaged fewer fans per home game.

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per Shama:

Not only is the NIT not a strong gate attraction but Minnesota’s home attendance has been declining for decades. For the 2013-14 season the Gophers averaged 12,329 for 18 home games, ranking 10th in the 12-team Big Ten. Williams Arena capacity is 14,625. Only Northwestern at 6,719 and Penn State, 6,500, averaged fewer fans per home game.

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The capacity of the arena has also declined, with fire code issues and the major renovation in the 90's. It stands to reason that if there are fewer seats, there will be fewer people seeing games. I thought attendance (via the dreaded 'eye' test) was much better this year than last year.
 


The capacity of the arena has also declined, with fire code issues and the major renovation in the 90's. It stands to reason that if there are fewer seats, there will be fewer people seeing games. I thought attendance (via the dreaded 'eye' test) was much better this year than last year.
I agree -

IIRC - didn't they make a shift to actual attendance rather than tickets sold? Because we used to laugh at the announced attendance, and lately it has seemed accurate. Anyone know?
 

The capacity of the arena has also declined, with fire code issues and the major renovation in the 90's. It stands to reason that if there are fewer seats, there will be fewer people seeing games. I thought attendance (via the dreaded 'eye' test) was much better this year than last year.

I'd be willing to get our ranking would go up if % capacity was the measure, vs sheet numbers, which does not factor capacity.
 



I agree -

IIRC - didn't they make a shift to actual attendance rather than tickets sold? Because we used to laugh at the announced attendance, and lately it has seemed accurate. Anyone know?

No stadium or team would ever use actual attendance, it's 99.99% of the time tickets sold, us included.
 

I'm sure Duke is at the bottom two or three in the ACC also, non issue, slips below 10k then there are problems.
 


No stadium or team would ever use actual attendance, it's 99.99% of the time tickets sold, us included.
Thanks - so we are talking about tickets sales being down. So is the drop is in season ticket sales? Some seats I know were corporate are no longer filled that way.
And then there is the issue of the very popular arena reseating, which went over so well w/fan base. So did sales drop after that?

Still, like Holy Man, I think there have been more people at the games, and I would wonder if more motivation to show up has been in play.
 




I'd like to see a breakdown of attendance by the years if someone has it. I do find this disturbing. Many reasons I'm sure. One would be lack of interest in non-conference home games. Priority seating has pushed out many long time ticket holders and so has the NBA team.

Big Ten Arenas by Capacity:
http://www.bbstate.com/info/teams-arena/_/BIG10

I guess I didn't realize we are that far down the capacity list.

I remember for years we were #1 or #2 for attendance in the nation along with Ky.
 





I'd be curious to see a game by game breakdown. Its instinctive to point to stadium size, but if we are never selling out the Barn, then a bigger stadium wouldn't give us anything but more empty seats to look at.

Also, be curious to see the out-of-conference/B1G game comparison. How much are the games against Southwest Wisconsin State Polytechnic High School for the Blind hurting us?
 

Look on the bright side. Rutgers comes to the Barn next year.
 

I'd be curious to see a game by game breakdown. Its instinctive to point to stadium size, but if we are never selling out the Barn, then a bigger stadium wouldn't give us anything but more empty seats to look at.

Also, be curious to see the out-of-conference/B1G game comparison. How much are the games against Southwest Wisconsin State Polytechnic High School for the Blind hurting us?

You can get that on this link if you click each game and then the box score. Goes back a few years.

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/minn-m-baskbl-sched.html
 

Another thing to keep in mind is that the B1G has the strongest basketball attendence in the nation. Does anyone have the national list? I recall looking at it a few years ago and we were 7th or so in the B1G, but still in the top 25 nationally. That said, it has certainly dropped. The re-seating thing appears to have been a bad idea that everyone saw coming.
 

I'm sure Duke is at the bottom two or three in the ACC also, non issue, slips below 10k then there are problems.

Duke ranked 7/16 in the ACC in basketball attendance for the 2012-13 season.
 

Another thing to keep in mind is that the B1G has the strongest basketball attendence in the nation. Does anyone have the national list? I recall looking at it a few years ago and we were 7th or so in the B1G, but still in the top 25 nationally. That said, it has certainly dropped. The re-seating thing appears to have been a bad idea that everyone saw coming.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2013.pdf

In 2013, Minnesota was 23rd in the nation. Big Ten #1 by a wide margin.
 

I'd be curious to see a game by game breakdown. Its instinctive to point to stadium size, but if we are never selling out the Barn, then a bigger stadium wouldn't give us anything but more empty seats to look at.

Also, be curious to see the out-of-conference/B1G game comparison. How much are the games against Southwest Wisconsin State Polytechnic High School for the Blind hurting us?

I just looked at one OOC and our first B1G game and found Lehigh attendance was 12,957, Michigan game was 12,225
 

The # of obstructed seats is worth considering. During B1G season all of the good seats were full, at least in the games I went to.
 

There seemed to be a wait and see approach to Pitino this year in the beginning. And the very slow non con schedule out the gate didn't help either.
 

The # of obstructed seats is worth considering. During B1G season all of the good seats were full, at least in the games I went to.

Without looking, I believe there were only 4 or 5 conference games sold out.

When I first got my season tickets(shared) tickets were $12.50.......1991 I believe. Yes it was a long time ago. My point is every seat in the house was that price. If you wanted the better seats on the sidelines you had to keep those tickets for many years and wait to move up the pecking order. Many of those fans(some had those seats for 30 or 40 years) were displaced when they remodeled a year or two later and started priority seating.
 

Another thing to keep in mind is that the B1G has the strongest basketball attendence in the nation. Does anyone have the national list? I recall looking at it a few years ago and we were 7th or so in the B1G, but still in the top 25 nationally. That said, it has certainly dropped. The re-seating thing appears to have been a bad idea that everyone saw coming.

Personally, I liked the reseating as I moved up a lot because I'm willing to donate to the U. While number of folks in attendance may be slightly down (paid tickets) over past few years, I would be shocked if they didn't make more money now than before the reseating. Also, having attended games in person for about 10 years in a row.. and the Clem years off and on before that, I can say the atmosphere for the OSU, Wisky, Indy, and Iowa games rivaled anything in quite some time.. easily better than Tubby and Monson years... We're moving in right direction.

Now, if we don't dance next year, then the momentum will be gone and ticket sales will not increase...
 




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