Shadeur Sanders

Look up Todd Marinovich.
I don't think Marinovich forced his way to the Raiders. He tanked his leverage and stock plummeted his senior season. He had a bad year, was constantly fighting with coaches, suspended multiple games and was busted with cocaine.

The Raiders picking Marinovich was much more a story of the Raiders being the Raiders than it was of him forcing himself to that franchise.
 

I would take him over JJ.

There's only one team that is going to draft Sanders. That's the cowgirls. And that isn't good for either the player or the team. He's a disaster. Now, Hunter. He'll be okay if he can take coaching. Which I'm not convinced he can, so I'd avoid him in the draft too.
 


My guess is he'll be a primary CB while playing a handful of snaps at WR. I think he's more valuable that way than playing full time WR and once in awhile at CB.
The difficult part of the equation is that WRs make so much more money than CBs. Hunter is in a weird spot because I think he is an elite CB and a very good WR. But I don't think he is as good of a prospect at WR as the kid from Arizona or Burden.

I think he ends up being a WR because of the money but I don't think it's his best position.
 

The difficult part of the equation is that WRs make so much more money than CBs. Hunter is in a weird spot because I think he is an elite CB and a very good WR. But I don't think he is as good of a prospect at WR as the kid from Arizona or Burden.

I think he ends up being a WR because of the money but I don't think it's his best position.
That’s a good point although I think he has a better shot at making big money as a CB as that’s his better position.
 


His biggest issue is that he holds onto the ball too long and for whatever reason doesn't seem to avoid huge hits. That's a recipe for trouble.

I don't know if it's a product of slower processing or if he just doesn't have great receivers. If it's slower processing, that's hard to fix.
His WRs win constantly. He seems to still be at the be wants to see the throw be open phase that you see with QBs that have always been better athletes. May be part of the issue in his development by going to an hbcu where he probably didn’t learn a ton about reading defenses and anticipation
 

There's only one team that is going to draft Sanders. That's the cowgirls. And that isn't good for either the player or the team. He's a disaster. Now, Hunter. He'll be okay if he can take coaching. Which I'm not convinced he can, so I'd avoid him in the draft too.
Everything they’ve said about Hunter is that he’s a tireless worker and coachable. Don’t know the kid personally but I wouldn’t let his flash and attitude with how he plays say he’s not coachable. I’d be thrilled if the Vikings ended up with him. Think sanders will be fine in an offense that builds it around him
 

In the game against Kansas today Shadeur flat out shoved a ref in the back when there was a skirmish between the two teams after a sack.....Crap like that is why I am glad the Vikings won't be in position to draft him, not the first time I have seen him lose his cool in a game.
Did you happen to see the officiating that went on in that game? There were a number of Kansas cheap shots on Shedeur with no flags. Yes, he pushed him, but only hard enough to get his attention in a very hostile group atmosphere.
Wrong, for sure, 100%. But it didn't draw a flag and based on the other calls they ignored, it should not have.
 

Everything they’ve said about Hunter is that he’s a tireless worker and coachable. Don’t know the kid personally but I wouldn’t let his flash and attitude with how he plays say he’s not coachable. I’d be thrilled if the Vikings ended up with him. Think sanders will be fine in an offense that builds it around him
Remember several similar things were said about Moss and Prime as well 🤣; both are HOFers and are top 10 greatest at their positions in NFL history. I’m obviously not saying Shedeur has that talent level, but the problem player angle is a trope that rarely materializes.

Laremy Tunsile, the gas mask pot smoker, has ended up being a 4X Pro Bowler.

The other thing that is rarely taken into account is that they are still maturing and the human brain is still developing until ~25 years old or in my case 58🤷‍♂️. These youngsters also live in a 🐠 🥣 that none of us adult/middle agers ever did.

Roger and Pete got it covered -

 
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No clue but all indications seem to be he is going pro after this season. Then it will be really interesting to see how much interest Deion has in continuing his coaching career without his kids and Hunter.
He just signed the a Five ⭐️ QB, second in his class for 2025 and he’s been good at everything he’s tried in his public career.

Based on the above I’m riding with Prime vs, your conjecture.
 

There's only one team that is going to draft Sanders. That's the cowgirls. And that isn't good for either the player or the team. He's a disaster. Now, Hunter. He'll be okay if he can take coaching. Which I'm not convinced he can, so I'd avoid him in the draft too.

I've heard Hunter is a straight A type student and very focused. It's his slender stature, not personality, that might impact his possible NFL career.
 

I've heard Hunter is a straight A type student and very focused. It's his slender stature, not personality, that might impact his possible NFL career.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to draft Hunter. He may not be able to keep doing both positions full time in the NFL but kid is a freak athlete.

I don't think his size will be an issue. They list him at 6'1" 185 and even if that isn't totally accurate that isn't terrible either for someone who is probably still growing and filling out.
 

He just signed the a Five ⭐️ QB, second in his class for 2025 and he’s been good at everything he’s tried in his public career.

Based on the above I’m riding with Prime vs, your conjecture.
Maybe Sanders is committed to the college coaching thing maybe he isn't. We will find out after this season. To this point his entire coaching bio has essentially involved coaching his sons.

I won't be surprised to see him try to get into NFL coaching or leave coaching entirely after this season but that is just my gut feeling and I could 100% be wrong.
 



Maybe Sanders is committed to the college coaching thing maybe he isn't. We will find out after this season. To this point his entire coaching bio has essentially involved coaching his sons.

I won't be surprised to see him try to get into NFL coaching or leave coaching entirely after this season but that is just my gut feeling and I could 100% be wrong.
Fair enough.

I think he stays till he gets them a level up from where they are now and then goes to the NFL. The more success he has in college, the more money he’ll make in the pros, in my opinion.

They asked him in an interview, who was the better two sport athlete (as both played baseball), him or Jordan?

His reply -

“Neither, Bo and it ain’t even close. Me and Mike couldn’t hit a curveball to say our souls. Bo could do anything.”

I think he knows he’s still learning how to be a good coach and coaching fuels his competitive 🔥. What else you gonna do? Golf? He needs to compete and win.
 
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I don't think Marinovich forced his way to the Raiders. He tanked his leverage and stock plummeted his senior season. He had a bad year, was constantly fighting with coaches, suspended multiple games and was busted with cocaine.

The Raiders picking Marinovich was much more a story of the Raiders being the Raiders than it was of him forcing himself to that franchise.
You are most likely correct. What I remember is at one point his father was very involved. Much more than normal.
 

Fair enough.

I think he stays till he gets them a level up from now and then goes to the NFL. The more success he has in college, the more money he’ll make in the pros, in my opinion.

They asked him in an interview, who was the better two sport athlete (as both played baseball), him or Jordan?

His reply -

“Neither, Bo and it ain’t even close. Me and Mike couldn’t hit a curveball to say our souls. Bo could do anything.”

I think he knows he’s still learning how to be a good coach and coaching fuels his competitive 🔥. What else you gonna do? Golf? He needs to compete and win.
I heard that interview. I agree with Deon's take.
 

You are most likely correct. What I remember is at one point his father was very involved. Much more than normal.
SI detailed his Dad’s draconian regiment Todd was in since he was 12/13; it left no time to be a kid. Wasn’t a big leap to see the challenges Todd incurred later in life.
 

Fair enough.

I think he stays till he gets them a level up from where they are now and then goes to the NFL. The more success he has in college, the more money he’ll make in the pros, in my opinion.

They asked him in an interview, who was the better two sport athlete (as both played baseball), him or Jordan?

His reply -

“Neither, Bo and it ain’t even close. Me and Mike couldn’t hit a curveball to say our souls. Bo could do anything.”

I think he knows he’s still learning how to be a good coach and coaching fuels his competitive 🔥. What else you gonna do? Golf? He needs to compete and win.
Yeah, Bo Jackson was the GOAT as far as modern era two sport athletes. Shame his body didn't cooperate. Calling Jordan a two sport athlete is kind of a stretch because his baseball career really didn't amount to much of anything.

It is honestly going to be really interesting to see what Deion Sanders does. Being a college head coach is a ton of work and it is unlikely that he needs the money. Will he have the patience/fire for it when his kids are no longer on the team? Time will tell, but there are not a lot of superstar athletes that get into coaching and stick with it.....
 

Fair enough.

I think he stays till he gets them a level up from where they are now and then goes to the NFL. The more success he has in college, the more money he’ll make in the pros, in my opinion.

They asked him in an interview, who was the better two sport athlete (as both played baseball), him or Jordan?

His reply -

“Neither, Bo and it ain’t even close. Me and Mike couldn’t hit a curveball to say our souls. Bo could do anything.”

I think he knows he’s still learning how to be a good coach and coaching fuels his competitive 🔥. What else you gonna do? Golf? He needs to compete and win.
Given he still makes incredibly head scratching decisions as a gameday coach, I would be VERY surprised if an NFL team would take him as an HC without time as a coordinator or position coach there for awhile or him putting in a decade in college. You don’t get to build a roster of players who’s parents send their kids to you because you’re prime in the NFL.

I agree with you he needs to do something to compete. He may also just chase his kids around and decide doing something like a football academy is more for him (he’d probably make a boatload doing this though I don’t think money “matters” per se anymore). It’ll be interesting to see what happens with him, especially once his kids and Hunter are gone but I’d put minimal stock in him having commits as evidence he’s staying the same way I would any coach
 

Remember several similar things were said about Moss and Prime as well 🤣; both are HOFers and are top 10 greatest at their positions in NFL history. I’m obviously not saying Shedeur has that talent level, but the problem player angle is a trope that rarely materializes.

Laremy Tunsile, the gas mask pot smoker, has ended up being a 4X Pro Bowler.

The other thing that is rarely taken into account is that they are still maturing and the human brain is still developing until ~25 years old or in my case 58🤷‍♂️. These youngsters also live in a 🐠 🥣 that none of us adult/middle agers ever did.

Roger and Pete got it covered -

I'm in agreement with your comments but I click on the music and I'm back at a Friday night dance a long time ago.
 

There's only one team that is going to draft Sanders. That's the cowgirls. And that isn't good for either the player or the team. He's a disaster. Now, Hunter. He'll be okay if he can take coaching. Which I'm not convinced he can, so I'd avoid him in the draft too.
I think Sanders goes to the Giants.
 



I think Deion's intention is to coach at Colorado next year. But, nobody can blame him if an NFL team waves wads of cash at him and he accepts. Or if Florida State at 2 and 9 chases him...maybe it is kinda like Lou Holtz and Notre Dame
 


I think he ends up being a WR because of the money but I don't think it's his best position.
Then I doubt he plays two ways. It's one thing for a fast DB to come in on offense and run a fake jet sweep/real jet sweep or some fly pattern, etc. Not much harm as he might not even be the target on that play - just a good distraction for the defense to worry about.

But if you're not in the meeting rooms on defense, understanding the coverages you are going to run and figure out how you're going to pass off receivers from one defender to another, you just can't go out there and play DB.

Gimmick WRs exist, gimmick DBs don't.
 

That’s a good point although I think he has a better shot at making big money as a CB as that’s his better position.
I am not convinced he is physical enough to be an nfl DB
I think he is a much better WR
 

We probably all played touch football as kids in the back yard. I don't remember that anybody really played defense...ya there were two teams but... In high school football I just roamed around at safety on defense.
But, playing softball as an adult...playing fall league...I think the other team forfeited...some schedule mess up...didn't show at all. So, somebody had a football....most guys went home but 4 or 5 us threw the football around. Ran pass routes and somebody passed it to the receiver while somebody defended one on one. Absolute revelation: covering somebody who actually ran pass routes in college was laughable. Impossible to stay within shouting distance of the receiver.
My point: playing DB and covering somebody one on one takes a special talent. It is really hard to cover somebody.
Defending a same sized person in basketball....ya, work at it...you can get pretty good.
Covering wide receiver....special gifts required.
 

Did you happen to see the officiating that went on in that game? There were a number of Kansas cheap shots on Shedeur with no flags. Yes, he pushed him, but only hard enough to get his attention in a very hostile group atmosphere.
Wrong, for sure, 100%. But it didn't draw a flag and based on the other calls they ignored, it should not have.
It's almost as if you're defending Shedeur's actions.

This season, we've seen a troubling pattern- fans throwing debris on the field over calls they don't like, and now a player shoving a ref. These behaviors show a complete lack of respect for authority and the integrity of the game. Disagreeing with calls is expected, but allowing that frustration to turn physical crosses the line.

Shedeur should be suspended for the next game or even the rest of the season. It won't happen, which speaks to a larger issue. The lack of respect for rules and authority has eroded over the past 10 years.

There's no reason for a player ever putting their hands on a ref.
 





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