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such high standards you have
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Coming from someone who thought highly of Dan Monson?

HA-HA-Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! :clap:
 

bb

BarnBurner said:
As I thought - someone who cant come to grips with the facts.

Year 4.

6-11.

Namecalling and foul language Blizz - such high standards you have.
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bb,

u r defending this?

1999–00 12–16 4–12 none none
2000–01 18–14 5–11 NIT 2nd Round none
2001–02 18–13 9–7 NIT 2nd Round none
2002–03 19–14 8–8 NIT 4th Place none
2003–04 12–18 3–13 none none
2004–05 21–11 10–6 NCAA 1st Round none
2005–06 16–15 5–11 NIT 2nd Round none
2006–07 9–22 3–13 none Coach Dan Monson resigned midseason; replaced by Jim Molinari

Year 8 3-13

8 Years 1 NCAA game.

47-82 in the Big Ten.
 



Section201 said:
bb,

u r defending this?

1999–00 12–16 4–12 none none
2000–01 18–14 5–11 NIT 2nd Round none
2001–02 18–13 9–7 NIT 2nd Round none
2002–03 19–14 8–8 NIT 4th Place none
2003–04 12–18 3–13 none none
2004–05 21–11 10–6 NCAA 1st Round none
2005–06 16–15 5–11 NIT 2nd Round none
2006–07 9–22 3–13 none Coach Dan Monson resigned midseason; replaced by Jim Molinari

Year 8 3-13

8 Years 1 NCAA game.

47-82 in the Big Ten.
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Defending - no.

"Dan Monson didnt get it done at MN. We all know that"

4 years, no ncaa wins, $2mil/year, 6-11 conf record in year 4.

R U defending tubby thus far?
 









bb

BarnBurner said:
Super.

I guess your expectations for Tubby and his squad a lower than mine.
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That could be. My "hopes" are the team competes for Big Ten Titles. It is hard to "expect" that with any regularity when in our history we have never regularly done so.

Clem had some NCAA success pre-scandal but never really competed for a Big Ten Title.

1986-1987 Minnesota 9-19 2-16 9th
1987-1988 Minnesota 10-18 4-14 9th
1988-1989 Minnesota 19-12 9-9 5th NCAA 2nd Round
1989-1990 Minnesota 23-9 11-7 4th NCAA Elite 8
1990-1991 Minnesota 12-16 5-13 9th
1991-1992 Minnesota 16-16 8-10 6th NIT 1st Round
1992-1993 Minnesota 23-9 11-7 4th NIT Champions
1993-1994 Minnesota 21-12% 10-8% 4th NCAA 2nd Round%
1994-1995 Minnesota 19-12% 10-8% 4th NCAA 1st Round%
1995-1996 Minnesota 19-11% 10-8% 4th NIT 2nd Round%
1996-1997 Minnesota 31-4% 16-2% 1st NCAA Final Four%
1997-1998 Minnesota 20-15% 6-10% 8th NIT Champions%
1998-1999 Minnesota 20-15% 10-8% 6th NCAA 1st Round%


Jim Dutcher won the title once and had a couple of seconds but otherwise was not competing for the conference title.

1975-1976 Minnesota 16-10 8-10 6th
1976-1977 Minnesota 24-3%^ 15-3% 2nd
1977-1978 Minnesota 17-10^ 12-6 T-2nd
1978-1979 Minnesota 11-16 6-12 T-8th
1979-1980 Minnesota 21-11 10-8 T-6th NIT Runner Up
1980-1981 Minnesota 19-11 9-9 T-5th NIT 3rd Place
1981-1982 Minnesota 23-6 14-4 1st NCAA Sweet 16 1982-1983 Minnesota 18-11 9-9 T-6th NIT 1st Round
1983-1984 Minnesota 15-13 6-12 T-8th
1984-1985 Minnesota 13-15 6-12 8th


Here is a link with our total hoops records. It will not be confused with Ohio State, Indiana and the rest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Golden_Gophers_men's_basketball#Results_by_season


So, yes, my expectations are probably lower than yours.

I expect Tubby to run a clean, respectable program.
I expect him to compete in the Big Ten and with some frequency, for the title.
I expect players to graduate and be honorable citizens.
I expect an occasional run in the tourney but at least regular invitations.
I expect an occasional "lost" season like this one.


To date the only time Tubby has failed to meet my expectations was when he called out Blake. No one is perfect.

I can still say I am proud to have Tubby represent the U and the state as Gopher head coach.

I am looking forward to the next game and next November.

:)
 



Section201 said:
That could be. My "hopes" are the team competes for Big Ten Titles. It is hard to "expect" that with any regularity when in our history we have never regularly done so.

Clem had some NCAA success pre-scandal but never really competed for a Big Ten Title.

1986-1987 Minnesota 9-19 2-16 9th
1987-1988 Minnesota 10-18 4-14 9th
1988-1989 Minnesota 19-12 9-9 5th NCAA 2nd Round
1989-1990 Minnesota 23-9 11-7 4th NCAA Elite 8
1990-1991 Minnesota 12-16 5-13 9th
1991-1992 Minnesota 16-16 8-10 6th NIT 1st Round
1992-1993 Minnesota 23-9 11-7 4th NIT Champions
1993-1994 Minnesota 21-12% 10-8% 4th NCAA 2nd Round%
1994-1995 Minnesota 19-12% 10-8% 4th NCAA 1st Round%
1995-1996 Minnesota 19-11% 10-8% 4th NIT 2nd Round%
1996-1997 Minnesota 31-4% 16-2% 1st NCAA Final Four%
1997-1998 Minnesota 20-15% 6-10% 8th NIT Champions%
1998-1999 Minnesota 20-15% 10-8% 6th NCAA 1st Round%


Jim Dutcher won the title once and had a couple of seconds but otherwise was not competing for the conference title.

1975-1976 Minnesota 16-10 8-10 6th
1976-1977 Minnesota 24-3%^ 15-3% 2nd
1977-1978 Minnesota 17-10^ 12-6 T-2nd
1978-1979 Minnesota 11-16 6-12 T-8th
1979-1980 Minnesota 21-11 10-8 T-6th NIT Runner Up
1980-1981 Minnesota 19-11 9-9 T-5th NIT 3rd Place
1981-1982 Minnesota 23-6 14-4 1st NCAA Sweet 16 1982-1983 Minnesota 18-11 9-9 T-6th NIT 1st Round
1983-1984 Minnesota 15-13 6-12 T-8th
1984-1985 Minnesota 13-15 6-12 8th


Here is a link with our total hoops records. It will not be confused with Ohio State, Indiana and the rest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Golden_Gophers_men's_basketball#Results_by_season


So, yes, my expectations are probably lower than yours.
I expect Tubby to run a clean, respectable program.
I expect him to compete in the Big Ten and with some frequency, for the title.
I expect players to graduate and be honorable citizens.
I expect an occasional run in the tourney but at least regular invitations.
I expect an occasional "lost" season like this one.


To date the only time Tubby has failed to meet my expectations was when he called out Blake. No one is perfect.

I can still say I am proud to have Tubby represent the U and the state as Gopher head coach.

I am looking forward to the next game and next November.

:)
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Everybody has to have their own expectations. Great.


When Monson left, most here proclaimed the need for higher expecations.

4 years in, expectations have been adjusted(read lowered) to meet the actual results of Tubby.


:cry:
 

BarnBurner said:
Everybody has to have their own expectations. Great.


When Monson left, most here proclaimed the need for higher expecations.

4 years in, expectations have been adjusted(read lowered) to meet the actual results of Tubby.


:cry:
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Obviously we disagree.

When Dan left the program was floundering and recruiting was dead. His last recruiting class consisted of two Minnesota kids who grew up dreaming of being Gophers and playing in Williams Arena. I could have recruited Al and Blake to the U.

Tubby has raised the recruiting standards and the results. While they may not be what some expected or had hoped for, it is a step up from what Dan had done.

If Tubby goes 6-12 next year, talk to me then.

:)
 

Section201 said:
Obviously we disagree.

When Dan left the program was floundering and recruiting was dead. His last recruiting class consisted of two Minnesota kids who grew up dreaming of being Gophers and playing in Williams Arena. I could have recruited Al and Blake to the U.

Tubby has raised the recruiting standards and the results. While they may not be what some expected or had hoped for, it is a step up from what Dan had done.

If Tubby goes 6-12 next year, talk to me then.

:)
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Quite telling that you can only give credit to Tubby, and not recognize the unmet and lowered expectations - 4 years later.


If Tubby doesnt win at least 2 games in the NCAA next year, talk to me.

That will be year 5.
 

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