Rittenberg: BT Championship game is reasonable expectation for Kill in 4-5 yrs

[nsmike]

The Gophers were ready for the play and took advantage of it. Even if the pass hadn't been dropped, the play wouldn't have gone anywhere, and Indiana would have had to settle for an attempt at a game-tying field goal. We can't assume the Gophers would have lost in overtime.

Unfortunately here on the GopherHole people can and do

 

[imthewalrus]

Unfortunately here on the GopherHole people can and do

It is ALWAYS best to just go with the actual results. That takes away all these "what if?" arguments. "What IF?" just doesn't matter. What IS was the way it WAS. Just look at the record book and realize that they will NEVER change the record book unless there is a "haskins" situation. The record IS what the record IS once the game has been completed.

 

[John Galt]

Wrong, they were also a pass or two from being 10-2.

Really?

 

[John Galt]

Brewster comes in and produces classic Glen Mason seasons in years 2 and 3 and then gets fired in year 4. No issue with firing Brewster, but Minnesota didn't "pay a price" for hiring him and he wasn't a "disaster" IF you are going to argue that Glen Mason did a good job. It continues to amaze me how this narrative keeps getting repeated like we all were not around to see that Brewster was capable of getting to the Poulan WeedEater Bowl just like Mason was.

It keeps getting repeated for people who somehow think that Brewster was anywhere close to the caliber of coach that Mason was. While it's true that Brewster years 2 and 3 were Masonesque, Brewster years 1 and 4 were some of the most brutal in the 120+ years of Gopher football.

 

[JoeDirt]

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[Costa Rican Gopher]

It keeps getting repeated for people who somehow think that Brewster was anywhere close to the caliber of coach that Mason was. While it's true that Brewster years 2 and 3 were Masonesque, Brewster years 1 and 4 were some of the most brutal in the 120+ years of Gopher football.

You can't honestly blame year one on Brew can you?

Shouldn't that fall squarely on Mason? Have you ever seen a less talented Gopher team, especially on Defense? Desi Steib, Daron Love, Logan Uu, man we were bad.

 

[imthewalrus]

Oh yes you can blame year one on your brewster. He was trying his best to do the same thing in his fourth year that he did in his first. The crack team of administrators at the University of Minnesota interviened on his failed final season or he would have managed to have TWO zero win Conference seasons in just four years. By ditching him mid-Conference Season, they saved him from his own incompetence.EVERY coach owns their record. EVERY coach. Mason will for ever be stuck with his first year record. Kill will forever be stuck with his first year record. And you had best believe that Brewster will forever be the owner of his record at the University of Minnesota.

THAT is the way it works. Just check all the record books for EVERY Coach who has coached football at the University. Their record consists of the first year they coached at the U right through to the last season they coached there. They own EVERY win...AND...EVERY loss. The minute you take the job...the record is YOURS. But, I do blame the administrators for putting my Gopher Football Program into the CAN'T win situation known as the brewball era.

 

[Costa Rican Gopher]

Oh yes you can blame year one on your brewster. He was trying his best to do the same thing in his fourth year that he did in his first. The crack team of administrators at the University of Minnesota interviened on his failed final season or he would have managed to have TWO zero win Conference seasons in just four years. By ditching him mid-Conference Season, they saved him from his own incompetence.EVERY coach owns their record. EVERY coach. Mason will for ever be stuck with his first year record. Kill will forever be stuck with his first year record. And you had best believe that Brewster will forever be the owner of his record at the University of Minnesota.

THAT is the way it works. Just check all the record books for EVERY Coach who has coached football at the University. Their record consists of the first year they coached at the U right through to the last season they coached there. They own EVERY win...AND...EVERY loss. The minute you take the job...the record is YOURS.

You're right about that first year following you forever, no matter how irresponsible and lazy the previous coach was. That's probably why no legitimate coach would take the Minnesota job and we had to settle for a rookie like Brew. Too bad the previous coach didn't leave us in a better position than that.

 

[imthewalrus]

No, foolish poster: it is the administrators who make the hires and terminations. The administrators also determine just how much support the football program is given. We have SUCH a long record of hiring and firing coaches. And why do you suppose that so MANY coaches have been unable to last more than about four to five years on the job at the University of Minnesota. And it has NOTHING to do with how hard the coaches worked...or...anything of the kind. Coach Mason lasted TEN seasons. He lasted a hell of a lot longer than MANY of the coaches who have been fired since Bernie Bierman was run out the door.

You just don't have a clue, do you. LOOK at the past 10 years. Look at the past 20 years. Look at the past 30 years. Look at the past HALF Century or MORE. Anything post WWII has shown a rough road and a somewhat downward trend. Murray was a fantastic coach. He did some great things. Cal Stoll did some good things. lou hoax cut and ran in less than two complete seasons. Guttey hung on for a season or two. Mason did some good things. Would you seriously say that Salem, Wacker, and your boy Brewster were lazy bums? They represented a chunk of time that was not good. But, they were trying. They were working. And, they just could NOT get the job done.

You appear to have a pretty slanted and biased point of view costa rican gopher.