Renew your season tickets

Clearly some complain - but more who are stating they are not renewing without complaining are tagged as complainers.

BTW - Putting fan in " " is another clear sign of someone who believes that renewing their tickets makes them better.
 


We're talking about the Gophers. If you suffer through them every week in the stadium, the TV, or even the radio, I consider you a die hard.

If you can't afford the tickets, bummer. It doesn't make anyone less of a fan. That's just the handful of season ticket holders who think they are better than everyone else because they have the coveted Gopher football season tickets talking. What an honor.

This is the kind of stuff you don't hear when talking about any other team in the metro. It boggles my mind that a program with our history has people that actually think like this.
 

Who cares???
Given your two who cares openers in a row, I would guess you do. Anger, pity, and resentment are not equivalent with indifference. Perhaps you mean to say only your opinion is correct, or that you don't care about the opinion of others. We certainly as a whole do not appreciate your martyrdom to the degree you find "sufficient".
 

Given your two who cares openers in a row, I would guess you do. Anger, pity, and resentment are not equivalent with indifference. Perhaps you mean to say only your opinion is correct, or that you don't care about the opinion of others. We certainly as a whole do not appreciate your martyrdom to the degree you find "sufficient".

What part of "who cares" don't you get? It means that I don't care about people whining, complaining our being critical and opinionated about season tix renewals, fandom and what choices others make. Its a personal thing and in case you still don't understand, I really don't care! I have my 2 tix's in tow and that's what is important to me.
 


What part of "who cares" don't you get? It means that I don't care about people whining, complaining our being critical and opinionated about season tix renewals, fandom and what choices others make. Its a personal thing and in case you still don't understand, I really don't care! I have my 2 tix's in tow and that's what is important to me.

Who cares?!? ;)
 

Here's my problem with it. People complain that the U doesn't want to do what it has to do to be competitive in revenue sports in the Big Ten, and then turn around and whine when the U institutes policies to raise the revenue it needs in order to be competitive. It's bizarre. You can't eat filet mignon on a ground beef budget.
I understand the need for revenue. I'm willing to pay and I'm trying to convince the angry couple in our group of six to stick with it. But I wish the U would've first sought to raise revenue by working to fill the seats first -- and keeping them filled. I get that the stadium was full for almost every game last year coming off a great season and with an attractive schedule. But I'll be surprised if the same happens given our 2015 season and the schedule. I hope I'm proven wrong. But I thought they could've created more revenue and fans over the long term with a different strategy.

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A couple things: on moving, etc., if you have 1 or 2 tickets, you could improve your seats pretty much every year. If you have 4, you might be able to improve them. If you have 6 or more, you're probably almost never going to be able to move. 16 or 24 together, like the posters in the thread, will be in their seats forever.

Second, maybe it's just directed at one particular user, but those people who keep trying to shout down people who are complaining about ticket prices are missing the boat. There are a lot of people who are really bothered by the U pricing them out of their seats. It feels like an absolute betrayal and it just feels wrong. I'm in seats that are at the very lowest level of (new) donations and we're keeping our seats, but it still galls me to pay the fee. The University has absolutely made the decision that money is the #1 thing they care about - to the exclusion of almost everything else. The gameday experience continues to decline with more advertising, and more seats that are either not sold or sold to corporations who often don't use them. The everyday families who sat in those seats are leaving. My neighbors across the street used to have 4 tickets, but they quit last year, because why should they pay $3K/year for those seats? And whereas I used to have something fun to talk to them about, now I don't. Yes, yes, boo hoo for me. But it is a buzzkill.

Will the U make more money this way? Yes. Do they have the right to do this? Of course they do. But should they? I would argue "Of course not". I'd always assumed I'd keep my tickets until I die. I'm not sure of that any longer. It feels like a betrayal, and time hasn't made it that much better.

I still remember the going ons at the time they announced the new tix price scheme. Days earlier we had just lost to the skunks at skunksville. I was at the game and while driving back I remember telling the wife that despite the loss, it was a good season (a top 1/3 finish in the B1G) and thought that things were looking up.

Then came the announcement on new ticket prices. Simply put, sticker-shock! Shortly after this announcement Jerry was named B1G coach of year. Normally I would have been excited for him but felt no enthusiasm about this award. No pun intended but the new tix prices resulted in a total buzz-kill for anything related to the program. I went from four to two season tix and like Goldy Elle, no longer think of them as something I must have until I die.

Fast forward to today at it is still hard to get overly excited about the program. Ironically one of the U's reasons for the increase was to help make sure the U would consistently finish in the top 1/3 which hasn't happened since the implementation. Yeah, it has only been two years but now the U, IMHO, has totally changed expectations for many fans.

The bottom line is if you're going to charge big boy prices, you better consistently win like the big boys. Until that happens which I would like nothing better, I will continue to be critical of the U.

As an aside, I'm still waiting for mplsgo4 to crawl out from under his rock and take me up on my bet.
 

As an aside, I'm still waiting for mplsgo4 to crawl out from under his rock and take me up on my bet. I'm also extending the bet to go4rob since he "took it back."

Maybe I'm mistaken but are you calling me out??
 



What strategy? Tcf is too small to compete above middle in Big Ten revenue thus the per seat increases. This is the answer.
 


i predict a lot of people very happy this season. if you can afford the ticket prices there will be a lot of movement. many seats opening up where they usually had renewals

it will be good for the fans that can be at the game

how many past games were sell outs? i wonder how many this season. its not a stellar home schedule for visiting teams?
 

Message board talk displays various types of behaviors. Who cares what "fans" say or think about about their ST's or others who gave them up. Shake it off like a dog fresh out of the lake. Yawn!!!!!

You are wrong that past ST holders haven't complained about the increases.This board has been full of their distaste about the increases. Clearly the hikes in the mandatory donation have not been popular. But the UM will do what it will do and each ST will have to make their choice. And the UM will live or die with their decision.

I have a hard time with the local "fans" who complain about ticket/donation prices. How about all the thousands of loyal out state fans who drive 100, 200, 300 miles or more to TCF seven times a year and likely pay for lodging, food, entertainment on top of the ticket and parking prices.

Me?

After decades of being a ST holder Mrs Bayfield and I will renew for 2016, continue to drive 500 miles round trip for each game and give it all for the Gophers.

But I will never complain about it if we decide to give it up.

This is you not caring about other people, yes? I have a hard time believing you.
 






If I remember correctly TCF was built with fewer seats than most BIG stadiums to make supply a bit less than what demand was anticipated to be. Thus ticket prices could be raised and TCF would not be 50/50 visiting fans when IA or WI and now NE was visiting.
I thought that was a mistake since limiting the number of seats decreased revenue significantly for sell outs were almost always when those teams played at the TCF.
 

If I remember correctly TCF was built with fewer seats than most BIG stadiums to make supply a bit less than what demand was anticipated to be. Thus ticket prices could be raised and TCF would not be 50/50 visiting fans when IA or WI and now NE was visiting.
I thought that was a mistake since limiting the number of seats decreased revenue significantly for sell outs were almost always when those teams played at the TCF.

Don't remember that, but guess it could have been a reason. I think the current capacity was based on what would be the sweet spot between having a full stadium and pricing.
 

I'm renewing and I like Weber. I hope it doesn't send you in a tailspin.
 

Message board talk displays various types of behaviors. Who cares what "fans" say or think about about their ST's or others who gave them up. Shake it off like a dog fresh out of the lake. Yawn!!!!!

You are wrong that past ST holders haven't complained about the increases.This board has been full of their distaste about the increases. Clearly the hikes in the mandatory donation have not been popular. But the UM will do what it will do and each ST will have to make their choice. And the UM will live or die with their decision.

I have a hard time with the local "fans" who complain about ticket/donation prices. How about all the thousands of loyal out state fans who drive 100, 200, 300 miles or more to TCF seven times a year and likely pay for lodging, food, entertainment on top of the ticket and parking prices.

Me?

After decades of being a ST holder Mrs Bayfield and I will renew for 2016, continue to drive 500 miles round trip for each game and give it all for the Gophers.

But I will never complain about it if we decide to give it up.

Thank you!
 

If I remember correctly TCF was built with fewer seats than most BIG stadiums to make supply a bit less than what demand was anticipated to be. Thus ticket prices could be raised and TCF would not be 50/50 visiting fans when IA or WI and now NE was visiting.
I thought that was a mistake since limiting the number of seats decreased revenue significantly for sell outs were almost always when those teams played at the TCF.

The stadium was built to a capacity that was expected to meet demand for most games. I remember a quote of someone saying, "You don't build a church for Easter Sunday." So while we could sell 65,000 tickets when Wisconsin or Nebraska visits, the stadium would be 20% to 30% empty the rest of the time. A smaller stadium hurts revenue one or two games per year, but can also encourage sales of season tickets if it's close to capacity the rest of the time and potentially raise attendance for less attractive non-conference games.
 

As I recall, the idea was to create scarcity of tickets - in hopes of building up the season ticket base, limiting the number of "enemy" fans who could get tickets, and long-range, building up a waiting list that would generate demand to expand the stadium.

But, that plan was also predicated on the idea that they would have a full student section occupying 9 to 10,000 seats.

As it turns out, the student sales have not been as strong as expected, and sell-outs have become the exception, not the norm. (I'm talking about actual bodies in seats - not "tickets sold"

At this point, I'm not sure what - if anything - can be done to build up the Gopher Fan base. It may very well be that this is the Gopher Fan base - and barring a truly breakthrough season (10 or 11 wins) - or a drop in ticket prices - the best the Gophs can hope for is 45,000 to 50,000 fans for a home game.
 

With the Vikings opening their new stadium and coming off an NFC North crown, the going gets even tougher for our Gophers to put fans in the seats. We gotta have a good season this year (an undefeated home record would be nice).
 

I'm a bit surprised by the implied conspiracy-ish theories here on TCF bank stadium size / ticket availability. Anyone who went to Gopher games at the Metrodome regularly knew that building something like a new stadium that held 60 to 65k would have been bonkers. At the dome we hardly reached capacity aside from rivalry games (and sometimes not even those.....), and MANY games were way way way lower.... way. The "averages" where claimed to be in the 40k range but I think most attendance numbers are fudged and they even claimed some averages a few years in the 30-40k range, the real numbers for many games were way way way... way lower.

Even with the bump from the novelty of a new outdoor stadium, paying for a larger stadium outright and everything associated would have made no sense on any level to build bigger... not because they wanted to create some artificial demand... just common sense. Even TCF's claimed average attendance numbers leave thousands of tickets available on average ... that's not scarcity.

Also as for scarcity they didn't artificially create any, you can still go get season tickets right now, I don't believe there is any line (or at least hasn't been for years). Aside from rivalry games Stubhub secondary market prices are still pretty reasonable closer to game time (you can't count the prices months out as everyone jacks up their prices when they aren't pressured to sell).
 




If any one wants section 112, seats 9 &10....they are open. Love the seats, love the team. Circumstances don't allow me to renew.
 






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