Post Game Thread: Oregon Fumbles TD, Blows Out Gophers

[Ope3]

Actually just last week or 2, Northwestern replaced Indiana with the most total losses in the history of the programs.

Thanks for the update.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

In 2025 they've had two nice wins.

They'll lose in the Big Ten champ game to Ohio State.

Then they'll lose in the 2nd round of the playoff as I expect them to get a first round bye, since the new rules are that those can now go to non-conf champions.


Was that a worthwhile season? I guess it's nice to win 11 games ... then accomplish nothing of note, two years in a row?

I was obviously responding to your comment -

It's coming back to Earth ... guaranteed


Don’t be a goalpost mover because you made a silly comment and over reached.

Improve your best

 

[GopherGrit]

Ducks running into and bouncing off gaggles of Gophers on multiple occasions is what really sticks with me this AM. Receivers running in green grass. Ridiculous tackling effort.

Still a big fan of Lindsey and a healthy Darius but this offense has issues.

Ultimately the product on the field is recruited, selected, developed, prepared by the coaches. We’ve seen major transformations up and down with a change in perspective and leadership. PJ isn’t going anywhere but maybe it’s time to gamble on some up and comers.

What it's time to do is to pay some $$$ to some big, bad mamma-jamma's on the OL.

That's what it's time to do.

 

[MNVCGUY]

We will always be at a talent deficit against teams like Ohio State and Oregon....anyone expecting that to change is kidding themselves.

One thing that has become very clear over the course of this season though is that we have issues in game planning which is leading to really slow starts. It just seems like it takes our coordinators a while to figure out what the other team is doing.

Obviously with young coordinators you would hope this gets better over time but an investment in coaching would be huge for this program, a couple experienced coordinators would definitely help avoid some of these really slow starts that put the team in a bad spot early and make it really tough to compete with good teams.

 

[GopherGrit]

I was obviously responding to your comment -

It's coming back to Earth ... guaranteed


Don’t be a goalpost mover because you made a silly comment and over reached.

Improve your best

The comment stands. If you have a counter-argument backed up by some kind of substance, feel free to post it.

 

[Ope3]

In 2025 they've had two nice wins.

They'll lose in the Big Ten champ game to Ohio State.

Then they'll lose in the 2nd round of the playoff as I expect them to get a first round bye, since the new rules are that those can now go to non-conf champions.


Was that a worthwhile season? I guess it's nice to win 11 games ... then accomplish nothing of note, two years in a row?

Considering what Indiana football had previously accomplished in the last half century and are now playing to Sold Out crowds in Bloomington, hell ya that's worthwhile.

 

[Pompous Elitist]

What it's time to do is to pay some $$$ to some big, bad mamma-jamma's on the OL.

That's what it's time to do.

I disagree NIL is the solution, although it can help.

 

[FinnGopher]

If Koi Perich or Drake Lindsey leave after the Wisconsin game, then you know that the kids have given up on Flecks approach to winning.

 

[GopherGrit]

I disagree NIL is the solution, although it can help.

I'm talking about a very specific upgrade of the roster. You saw Oregon's OL last night. We need more like that

 

[GopherGrit]

If Koi Perich or Drake Lindsey leave after the Wisconsin game, then you know that the kids have given up on Flecks approach to winning.

So they can go sit on the bench at a helmet school for the same or less money than they're making at Minnesota?

That makes no sense to me.

Minnesota is a place to come to play right away and get valuable playing experience in a top league of college football, best preparing yourself for an NFL chance. Sitting on the bench at a helmet school doesn't do that ... even if you do manage to get a ring while maybe playing special teams.

 

[Ope3]

Mendoza could well win the Heisman.

All it will take is them getting on just average QB, and they'll be the same thing that Clemson currently is. How is that not true?

I think the rest of the roster would still get the Hoosiers to 10-2 this season even with just an average QB.

With now more of a track record, access to NIL I think Cignetti will be able reliably identify viable QB options. Maybe even the backups are quality, for all we know.

 

[Pompous Elitist]

I'm talking about a very specific upgrade of the roster. You saw Oregon's OL last night. We need more like that

Shall Chernoff/PJ/Coyle brain trust allocate all revenue sharing dollars to the O line? How would you break that out.

 

[GopherGrit]

I think the rest of the roster would still get the Hoosiers to 10-2 this season even with just an average QB.

With now more of a track record, access to NIL I think Cignetti will be able reliably identify viable QB options. Maybe even the backups are quality, for all we know.

With an average QB, they guaranteed lose to Penn State. Very well could lose to Oregon and Iowa.

That's a huge shift in the season outcome

 

[GopherGrit]

Shall Chernoff/PJ/Coyle brain trust allocate all revenue sharing dollars to the O line? How would you break that out.

That's impossible for me to answer unless I can see all rev share & NIL payments right now to all P4 players.

(And that should be the case, just like in the NFL. Absolutely no reason these guys paydays shouldn't be known.)

 

[GopherGrit]

Cuban is not the only wealthy IU booster....Simon Group, Cook Medical, and the Eli Lilly family are heavy contributors to the school.

To the school. The U of MN has a massive endowment. I doubt that came to be just from small gifts.

How many give massive gifts to (IU, or the U of MN for that matter) athletic department specifically?

 

[Ope3]

With an average QB, they guaranteed lose to Penn State. Very well could lose to Oregon and Iowa.

That's a huge shift in the season outcome

Just 1 loss still would put them in the CFP.

Even losing all 3 would still be likely a 9 win season, something Indiana had NEVER done until 2024.

Maybe they already have more than 1 above average QB on the roster currently. Possible.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

The comment stands. If you have a counter-argument backed up by some kind of substance, feel free to post it.

You made the claim, I don’t have to prove anything.

I asked honestly when it was going to specifically happen and you wouldn’t provide an honest non-vague answer and instead try to obfuscate by changing the discussion.

More of your same trite nonsense.

Enjoy your weekend of arguing incessantly with everyone, Sharon Rodgers

 

[Pompous Elitist]

That's impossible for me to answer unless I can see all rev share & NIL payments right now to all P4 players.

(And that should be the case, just like in the NFL. Absolutely no reason these guys paydays shouldn't be known.)

Iowa’s NIL fund the Swarm is public record, paltry and comparable to MN I’d guess although nobody knows that outside a few insiders. Do they have a mega donor doing private deals? I don’t know. Who knows what’s going on in those corn fields. Probably some wierd stuff.

In summary my observation is some coaches do more with less. Some do less with more. Some are in the mucky middle.

 

[GopherGrit]

Just 1 loss still would put them in the CFP.

Even losing all 3 would still be likely a 9 win season, something Indiana had NEVER done until 2024.

Maybe they already have more than 1 above average QB on the roster currently. Possible.

No one is talking about Indiana if they go 9-3 in 2024 and 2025.

You're absolutely correct that it's a huge step up from where they were, but no one is giving them the attention they're getting now and acting like Cignetti walks on water.

 

[GopherGrit]

Iowa’s NIL fund the Swarm is public record, paltry and comparable to MN I’d guess although nobody knows that outside a few insiders. Do they have a mega donor doing private deals? I don’t know. Who knows what’s going on in those corn fields. Probably some wierd stuff.

In summary my observation is some coaches do more with less. Some do less with more. Some are in the mucky middle.

I don't think it should take up the entire rev share fund to get a badass OL. Just like it doesn't take up the entire cap in the NFL.

I'm just saying we need an upgrade there.

 

[GopherGrit]

You made the claim, I don’t have to prove anything.

I asked honestly when it was going to specifically happen and you wouldn’t provide an honest non-vague answer and instead try to obfuscate by changing the discussion.

More of your same trite nonsense.

Enjoy your weekend of arguing incessantly with everyone, Sharon Rodgers

Where in my post did I make a claim about a specific year?

Your demand for a specific year went above and beyond my post.


What I do know is that Clemson used to be kings of the world, Dabo walked on water. How about now? Exact same coach. Same facilities, same fanbase.

 

[LeftofThaDial]

I think the rest of the roster would still get the Hoosiers to 10-2 this season even with just an average QB.

With now more of a track record, access to NIL I think Cignetti will be able reliably identify viable QB options. Maybe even the backups are quality, for all we know.

Mendoza’s backup is his younger brother. He was already at Indiana when they landed the older brother.

 

[Jack jones]

If Koi Perich or Drake Lindsey leave after the Wisconsin game, then you know that the kids have given up on Flecks approach to winning.

Wouldn’t miss Perich. So far this year, he has been awol.

 

[Pompous Elitist]

Mendoza’s backup is his younger brother. He was already at Indiana when they landed the older brother.

The lengths people will go to argue Cignett isn’t that great but then threaten 40 years in the wilderness if PJ were ever let go is pretty astonishing. Not sure same people are saying these things but remarkable all the same. Even Saban had some not so great years so the boo birds will eventually have their day.

 

[GopherGrit]

The lengths people will go to argue Cignett isn’t that great but then threaten 40 years in the wilderness if PJ were ever let go is pretty astonishing. Not sure same people are saying these things but remarkable all the same. Even Saban had some not so great years so the boo birds will eventually have their day.

Not sure if you were implying that I'm one of those people, but for the record I am not.

Cignetti does not walk on water. And I don't think it would take 40 years to get back to this level if Fleck left.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Where in my post did I make a claim about a specific year?

You didn’t, but your cocky certitude that it Would definitely happen, should make supplying a date easy for someone of your superior intellect

Your demand for a specific year went above and beyond my post.

I politely asked; where I come from -

Talk is cheap, but whiskey costs money.

What I do know

So you don’t know about Indiana, check.

is that Clemson used to be kings of the world, Dabo walked on water. How about now? Exact same coach. Same facilities, same fanbase.

He famously wouldn’t use NIL to supplement his roster, do he list upperclassmen and wasn’t replacing them and it caught up to him.

Additionally, most programs have a limited shelf life on excellence and there are replaced.

Your shtick is boring, so I’m done interacting with you.

 

[GopherGrit]

You didn’t, but your cocky certitude that it Would definitely happen, should make supplying a date easy for someone of your superior intellect

I politely asked; where I come from -

Talk is cheap, but whiskey costs money.


So you don’t know about Indiana, check.

He famously wouldn’t use NIL to supplement his roster, do he list upperclassmen and wasn’t replacing them and it caught up to him.

Additionally, most programs have a limited shelf life on excellence and there are replaced.

Your shtick is boring, so I’m done interacting with you.

Sounds like you agree at the very least that IU Cignetti has a shelf life on excellence.

Glad we agree on that.

 

[50PoundHead]

The offense is frustrating but not that surprising with so much inexperience on that side. But the defense has been extremely disappointing IMO. Other than CB, the defense returned a lot of experience from a good defense last year. They should be better than what we've seen.

We lost our best (by far) LB and two very good CBs. I'm no defensive brain wizard but I've always thought that poor CB play really erodes the effectiveness of the safeties. Safety is a position of strength for us on paper, but for some reason they haven't looked as solid this year as last. Again, they play in an overall system and if any of the gears don't mesh it causes unit-wide problems.

 

[LeftofThaDial]

We lost our best (by far) LB and two very good CBs. I'm no defensive brain wizard but I've always thought that poor CB play really erodes the effectiveness of the safeties. Safety is a position of strength for us on paper, but for some reason they haven't looked as solid this year as last. Again, they play in an overall system and if any of the gears don't mesh it causes unit-wide problems.

The safety’s look like they are not playing very free. They seem unsure and late on most everything.

 

[50PoundHead]

The safety’s look like they are not playing very free. They seem unsure and late on most everything.

My impression as well and makes me think they are having to do more to prop up the CBs.