Post Game Thread: Hawkeyes Humiliate Gophers

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GopherVotary said:
If you were a highly touted prospect, would you want to play somewhere that can offer just a fraction of the NIL that dozens of other schools can offer?
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Exactly, and would you want to play in Minnesota if you aren’t one of the half dozen guys prospects from Minnesota each year?
 

Nax5 said:
Cignetti brought the losingest FBS program to the playoffs last year. And has a national contender this year. And they are not loaded with 5 star talent. The possibility is out there.
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Ok well we aren’t hiring Cignetti. I don’t see anyone else doing what he is doing.
 

mkAz said:
The Iowa offense has been terrible for years, they brought in a good QB this year and all of the sudden they have great offensive minds. Agreed on Phil Parker though, that guy can coach.
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A good QB… Gronowski is 111th in total offense and 109th in passer efficiency rating in FBS. I’d say he is an experienced FCS game manager who does enough with his legs and protects the ball to let the Iowa defense win games.
 

Ewert86PC said:
"Winningest coach" seems specious, much like Kirk "Garbage Time Stats" Cousins being a top ten NFL QB.
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I understand what you mean - it’s still the truth. We haven’t been very good on the whole for 60 years.
 

This may end up being a really good Iowa team (had a legit shot of beating Indiana), but we got our a$$es handed to us in every single way today.

Drake played like a freshman for one of the first times this year. DT gets one carry and apparently gets injured and is done for the game. D can't keep them off the scoreboard and special teams were far from special.

Players and coaches need to flush this one and move on to Michigan State. The good news is that 3 of the 4 left on the schedule are very winnable so 8-4 very much still a possibility.

Something needs to change in the off season, I would love to see them go out and hire a proven, experienced offensive coordinator but no clue if that will ever happen.

Losing to Iowa sucks.....getting blown out by them is even worse.....but in the end all you can do is move on the next game and make sure you bounce back from the loss and don't let them start stacking up.
 


Some Day...Maybe said:
Just like at Cal, this team was not ready for the game in any way, shape, or form.
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Frustrating to see this trend where the team has really struggled on the road this year after being a pretty solid road team in most of the season's leading up to this one.
 

Oregon leads Wisconsin, which is on the road, 7-0 at the half. Iowa led the Gophers 31-0 at the half. Hard to comprehend how unprepared an out-coached the Gophers were. I think the Gophers will recover and win at least two, maybe three more games this year.

But why do we seem to playing at a growing emotional and confidence deficit against Iowa? PJ generates a lot of energy, mostly positive I believe. But I suspects he must feel as though he can’t beat Ferentz, a feeling that gets worse each year, and that creates negative energy that unwittingly and adversely affects the team in Iowa game prep. When, deep down, or subconsciously, a coach doubts his own ability to handle a challenge, it must trickle down to and infect the players. And, Ferentz, who lives rent free in PJ’s nightmares, is the smirking beneficiary of the other side of this equation.
 
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Mr. 131 said:
I understand what you mean - it’s still the truth. We haven’t been very good on the whole for 60 years.
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I understand. I was having flashbacks to my undergrad years, 1983 to be specific. (Iowa 61, Gophers 10)
 



Gophergrandpa said:
Oregon leads Wisconsin, which is on the road, 7-0 at the half. Iowa led the Gophers 31-0 at the half. Hard to comprehend how unprepared an out-coached the Gophers were. I think the Gophers will recover and win at least two, maybe three more games this year.

But why do we seem to playing at a growing emotional and confidence deficit against Iowa? PJ generates a lot of energy, mostly positive I believe. But I suspects he must feel as though he can’t beat Ferentz, a feeling that gets worse each year, and that creates negative energy that unwittingly and adversely affects the team in Iowa game prep. When, deep down, or subconsciously, a coach doubts his own ability to handle a challenge, it must trickle down to and infects the players. And, Ferentz, who lives rent free in PJ’s nightmares, is the smirking beneficiary of the other side of this equation.
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Ferentz hates Fleck's guts. Humiliating him is a moral imperative. Fleck is okay being his whipping boy.
 


Since we have such a liberal bias in the University(and State) I think it is time we exit from the B1G Ten and join the Ivy League with the other liberal institutions What do we have to lose? Certainly nothing in prestige and will satisfy all the snow flakes.
 

Not sure I’ve ever seen a worse 30 minutes; also not sure we should count the second half as everyone had checked out at that point.

Confusion on defense, horrible punting, horrible coverage, Lindsey 3 ints and other bad decisions, slow receivers, wierd calls at times, 4th down ineptitude, Perich looking timid and unengaged.

Kudos to Iowa. They looked like a typical solid team in all 3 phases, overall. I’d say PJ has work to do but this mountain seems steep. Can’t count on Deacon Hill saving the day.

Moving on…
 
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Hindsight

We barely beat Rutgers
We barely beat Purdue
We looked bad at Cal
We weren’t competitive at tOSU


We weren’t competitive today

We’re a middle of the pack team. That’s about 9-10 out of 18 and about 36-40 out of 70.

7-9 wins annually.

Hard to justify any change when people show up to watch and t e home atmosphere is quality.

Didn’t like the coach acknowledging publicly that Kinnick is the hardest place to play.

Offense needs to help the defense more.

Need more than 1-3 high end talent on each side of the ball. Great to have a first or second round pick for 6 years, but can’t have the rest as 3rd day, free agents or retired.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
We’re a middle of the pack team. That’s about 9-10 out of 18 and about 36-40 out of 70.

7-9 wins annually.
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I think people believed that the Gophers were a middle-of-the-pack team before this game but they played well below that today. We certainly didn't look like the 9th or 10th best conference team.
 

I didn’t see Smith at wr today. Was he ever in the game? It looked like Lanier took his place. I didn’t hear anything about an injury.
 

TwistingMyMelon said:
I think people believed that the Gophers were a middle-of-the-pack team before this game but they played well below that today.
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They did and you also have to look at the other team that lost by 3 early to ISU and by 5 to Indiana at home. Iowa might not lose again. Especially if Oregon QB is out.
 




mkAz said:
The Iowa offense has been terrible for years, they brought in a good QB this year and all of the sudden they have great offensive minds. Agreed on Phil Parker though, that guy can coach.
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Tim Lester is a solid OC. In 14 games as Iowa's OC Iowa has scored 30+ 7 times. 40+ 4 times.

Certainly the defenses and special teams have something to do with the scoring mark but even tonight when Iowa was is kill the clock mode for much of the game they still averaged over 5 yards per play
 

Gopher rushing totals: 35 against Rutgers, 68 against Ohio State, 30 against Purdue (Purdue!), 24 (one yard per carry) against Iowa. So why not use the corrupt system now in place and go buy a couple of 5* running backs from other teams? The new transfer rule is perfect for such corruption.
 

BilldGopher said:
The Fleck Regime has had Nebraska's number.

The Fleck Regime mostly splits with Wisconsin.

The Fleck Regime is owned by I-O-W-A.

Not that hard to see.

And I still even now support Coach Fleck. Definitely room to improve our best against I-O-W-A.

Still think Ferentz should be fired for QB ineptitude for a number of seasons.
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Also, Iowa has had only two coaches since 1978 - stability means a lot, helps recruiting.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Hindsight

We barely beat Rutgers
We barely beat Purdue
We looked bad at Cal
We weren’t competitive at tOSU


We weren’t competitive today

We’re a middle of the pack team. That’s about 9-10 out of 18 and about 36-40 out of 70.

7-9 wins annually.

Hard to justify any change when people show up to watch and t e home atmosphere is quality.

Didn’t like the coach acknowledging publicly that Kinnick is the hardest place to play.

Offense needs to help the defense more.

Need more than 1-3 high end talent on each side of the ball. Great to have a first or second round pick for 6 years, but can’t have the rest as 3rd day, free agents or retired.
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Basically. Under Fleck we're just doomed/blessed to see a low standard deviation from year to year. We're going to be right around the middle of the pack because that's what Fleck's goal is. Run clock to shorten games. Play a soft defense that allows easy third down conversions in order to limit explosive plays. The game (and program) plan is always to play towards the middle. What does this mean? We'll probably avoid really terrible seasons....but we're also probably never going to see the program step up a tier to that grouping under the helmet schools. Fleck will coach here for a couple decades and outside of Minnesota.....nobody will remember him for anything other than his frenetic and offbeat behavior and sayings.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Gopher rushing totals: 35 against Rutgers, 68 against Ohio State, 30 against Purdue (Purdue!), 24 (one yard per carry) against Iowa. So why not use the corrupt system now in place and go buy a couple of 5* running backs from other teams? The new transfer rule is perfect for such corruption.
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Even 5-star backs would struggle to run behind this OL. If we wanted to spend our finite funds I’d invest in building out that unit first.
 


Great Plains Gopher said:
Gopher rushing totals: 35 against Rutgers, 68 against Ohio State, 30 against Purdue (Purdue!), 24 (one yard per carry) against Iowa. So why not use the corrupt system now in place and go buy a couple of 5* running backs from other teams? The new transfer rule is perfect for such corruption.
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Let's buy some blockers first. It all starts up front and we have regressed considerably.
 

Willwin40 said:
I didn’t see Smith at wr today. Was he ever in the game? It looked like Lanier took his place. I didn’t hear anything about an injury.
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During the second half Smith was on the sidelines in his jersey and sweat pants. DT was on the sidelines in his full uniform/pads but no helmet. He later has his helmet on when it was raining. Read into that how you’d like.
 
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On the plus side, a close loss and absolute blowout both only count for one loss on the ledger.

On the negative, this is a rivalry game, with family/friend/neighbor bragging rights. Rivalry games are how you build your fan base. So even though this only counts for one loss, it goes beyond that. When you’re in year 9 and you are still getting absolutely embarrassed by one of your top two rivals, people begin to check out. People stop making the 5 hour trek to support the team.

My 10-year old and I spent 10 hours in the car today and literally didn’t have a single thing to cheer about while we stayed the entire time up to the final knee. I’m not asking for “moral victories”, but holy F do I expect PJ/the team to give a shit and put together a competitive effort. What an absolute shitshow.
 

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