Poll: How would you grade the Gophers coaching in the loss to Iowa?

Poll: How would you grade the Gophers coaching in the loss to Iowa?

  • A

    Votes: 9 4.8%

  • B

    Votes: 26 13.8%

  • C

    Votes: 37 19.7%

  • D

    Votes: 59 31.4%

  • F

    Votes: 57 30.3%
  • Total voters
    188
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USAF said:
Bullshit.
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You can be in denial all you want. I know your mind is made up, and you're entitled to your wrong opinion.

At some point the players actually have to score the points and take the opportunities presented to them. That means AK not looking off a wide open TE in the flat for 7. That means Trickett hitting a bunny. That means Mo holding on to the ball at the 10 yard line. Sorry. That all adds up to a loss in rivalry games.
 



If there is ever an F, this is it. F for this game and F for this season. I’ve lost interest. Fleck should take a pay cut. I feel like the Nebraska fan, no hope. The last 3 seasons have been shit.
 


Some Day...Maybe said:
If there is ever an F, this is it. F for this game and F for this season. I’ve lost interest. Fleck should take a pay cut. I feel like the Nebraska fan, no hope. The last 3 seasons have been shit.
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We're better than Nebraska. We're fringe bowl team. Was given trouble for saying it earlier in the year, but that's what we are. Pinstripe vs James Madison, here we come...
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don’t know how it could be anything but an F
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They rolled up 400 yards of offense against THAT Iowa defense with a RS FR making his second career start. I would have laid thousands that they wouldn't come anywhere near that number of yards; combine that with holding Iowa to 280 yards and 13 points.

You can't go (-2) in the Turnover category against that team and win. Players can't turn the ball over and miss chip shot FG's when points are going to be at a premium.
 


mnsportsgeek said:
Coaches positioned themselves to score 23+
10 points is on the 11 guys in helmets.
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It's always fascinating how many folks are not just reluctance but flat out refuse to actually blame the players for not doing what they have been coached to do. It's just incredible.
 



Ogee Oglethorpe said:
It's always fascinating how many folks are not just reluctance but flat out refuse to actually blame the players for not doing what they have been coached to do. It's just incredible.
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When they start keeping score by how many yards you get compared to your competition, will let you know. In the meantime, PJ is a terrible, terrible game coach.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
They rolled up 400 yards of offense against THAT Iowa defense with a RS FR making his second career start. I would have laid thousands that they wouldn't come anywhere near that number of yards; combine that with holding Iowa to 280 yards and 13 points.

You can't go (-2) in the Turnover category against that team and win. Players can't turn the ball over and miss chip shot FG's when points are going to be at a premium.
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Mo fumbled on his 14th carry OF THAT DRIVE! On the INT, two runs by our backups put him in a 3rd and long situation. Yeah the players gotta make plays but with what the coaches can control, they did very poorly at times.

Mo made them look better than they were. BSF had two simple catches early on, then nothing. On the only TD drive, we really mixed it up.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
It's always fascinating how many folks are not just reluctance but flat out refuse to actually blame the players for not doing what they have been coached to do. It's just incredible.
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I am generally disappointed in Fleck as a game day coach, but I can't just ignore that we were in position to win today. And in position to win comfortably if we execute at key moments.
 




Tucker32 said:
No, the coaches don’t get credit between the 20’s and then blame the players. Stupid.
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Trickett missed a bunny in the redzone.
AK missed a touchdown in the redzone.
Mo fumbled the ball in the redzone.

There's 13 to 20 points right there. We only needed 4. We didn't even have to be perfect. We had to be mediocre. Couldn't manage that.
 


PhiloVance said:
Question us this on Athan or the coaches.
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Not Athan. The Gophers only TD came on a drive where he lit it up.

The interception at the end bounced off the receiver's body after being contacted hard by the defender.
 

GoForGold said:
Yes, some players make mistakes at key times at the end of the game, but game could have been under control before that.
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Yes! If only we had you at the helm, with knowledge of what they were going to do and what we should do.

Tough game between two evenly matched teams. A few key plays broke their way. It happens. Blaming this on in-game coaching is mis-guided, in my opinion.
 

balds said:
Yes! If only we had you at the helm, with knowledge of what they were going to do and what we should do.

Tough game between two evenly matched teams. A few key plays broke their way. It happens. Blaming this on in-game coaching is mis-guided, in my opinion.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what went wrong. There were bad breaks but even more missed opportunities. Open your eyes.
 

Gophergrandpa said:
PJ F- for his pathological desire to squander timeouts early, suffocating his offense’s ability to come back in a close game. Are there analytics that support always, always wasting your timeouts early???
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This. Defense played really well. And despite moving the ball REALLY WELL all game thanks to Mo having a career day....we squandered opportunity after opportunity.

There's simply no excuse for what we saw on the drive to close out the half. BAD clock management running time down until it limited our options once we got into the red zone...and no timeouts left because PJ doesn't value them AT ALL. I don't see coaches on ANY other team waste timeouts like he does. It's infuriating....and it's come back to bite the team multiple times over the years.

Can't ignore that Athan failed to hit BSF on that third and one. Should have been a touchdown and he just missed it. Then the missed field goal.....

.....but players.....especially young guys like Athan have an excuse. No excuse for PJ's inability to manage the clock better.
 

balds said:
Yes! If only we had you at the helm, with knowledge of what they were going to do and what we should do.

Tough game between two evenly matched teams. A few key plays broke their way. It happens. Blaming this on in-game coaching is mis-guided, in my opinion.
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Coaches coach

Players play

I would guess the staff is thinking they controlled the game almost precisely the way they wanted to. They made the decision to not let a RS FR in his second start, completing less than 50% of his passes and with 1TD and 3 INTs lose the game for them, and rightfully so.

Good Lord, you could argue the game plan was absolutely brilliant just as much as you could that the coaches were the reason for this loss. Sans the RZ turnover and missed FG, I would guess this game went about as well as they could possibly hope.
 

Considering the conditions and the circumstances...gave a B for the coaching.

We had 3 opportunities for points and the football gods delivered their blows. That sucked.

I-O-W-A's defense has just had "The Luck-O-The-Irish" all year and it was there today too.

Does bother me deeply that Petres looked like a competent QB for multiple drives...but especially that first play for them. Also, I-O-W-A's offensive line was in some form of Maxy Pad Pass Protect that I wish we could do.

Coaching indeed was a factor in the game but this one just feels different...or maybe I just haven't thawed out yet...
 

Coaches had a game winning plan.
A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
It would have worked if not for 3 plays where players didn’t make plays.

Coaches can’t make plays for them,
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Here is what is on the coaches. Why is Mo, a 6th year senior with as much experience than anyone in the nation, getting 72 carries in two games that we win by a combined 62-3 (Northwestern & Rutgers)?

At some point in these easy games you have to say "Ok, we have this game in hand. Time to work on passing. Or a proper two-minute drill." But no, we just keep feeding Mo. And feeding Mo.

Meanwhile, nobody else is getting meaning activity, and in then in games like today when we need someone else to make a play, they don't, because they're not prepared. It's not surprising. All this offense is prepared to do is hand off to Mo. This is a coaching decision.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Coaches coach

Players play

I would guess the staff is thinking they controlled the game almost precisely the way they wanted to. They made the decision to not let a RS FR in his second start, completing less than 50% of his passes and with 1TD and 3 INTs lose the game for them, and rightfully so.

Good Lord, you could argue the game plan was absolutely brilliant just as much as you could that the coaches were the reason for this loss. Sans the RZ turnover and missed FG, I would guess this game went about as well as they could possibly hope.
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If if if.

Iowa scored more points.

W
 

gopher7 said:
Coaches had a game winning plan.


Here is what is on the coaches. Why is Mo, a 6th year senior with as much experience than anyone in the nation, getting 72 carries in two games that we win by a combined 62-3 (Northwestern & Rutgers)?

At some point in these easy games you have to say "Ok, we have this game in hand. Time to work on passing. Or a proper two-minute drill." But no, we just keep feeding Mo. And feeding Mo.

Meanwhile, nobody else is getting meaning activity, and in then in games like today when we need someone else to make a play, they don't, because they're not prepared. It's not surprising. All this offense is prepared to do is hand off to Mo. This is a coaching decision.
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Because Mo is the best player, has been all year and despite whatever space we get when everyone knows we run Mo… nobody has stepped up?

If there is an open WR… I bet he gets passes. I haven’t seen many.
 

Made good adjustments. Coaches didn’t throw the pick, fumble the ball or miss a field goal
 

Two evenly matched teams. Two plays decided the outcome. We bobbled and dropped an easy deflected pass while Iowa's defender made the play. Both teams played well in difficult conditions.
 

Panthadad2 said:
Not Athan. The Gophers only TD came on a drive where he lit it up.

The interception at the end bounced off the receiver's body after being contacted hard by the defender.
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My question was in response to GopherinIowa comment:
"We saw the success when Athan kept it on a read option. It was there all game but we did it maybe once or twice? I don’t get it."

To me Athan had the read option and could have kept the ball rather than hand it off at anytime during the game. Perhaps because of inexperience or Mo's success he chose not to run the ball himself. To me this type of play was not on the coaches.
 

Fleck does a lot of things well and the team plays their ass off but Fleck is an atrocious game coach especially against Iowa for some reason. After he shit his pants last year in Iowa, where it felt like rock bottom, you would think he would have been hyper aggressive today. Instead he played not to lose to the maximum and yes he almost pulled it out but any gopher fan felt pure dread the entire 4th quarter. We all knew bad things would happen and they did. This game was lost in the first 3 quarters before the calamity that was the last half of the 4th quarter
 

Sparlimb said:
We're better than Nebraska. We're fringe bowl team. Was given trouble for saying it earlier in the year, but that's what we are. Pinstripe vs James Madison, here we come...
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James Madison is not eligible for a bowl this year because this is their first season in FBS. Probably will go to the Pinstripe, though, against a mid-level ACC team like Pitt or Duke or Syracuse.
 
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F.

I mean, c'mon. In the 4th quarter, did the coaches really think they'd be able to run Mo 20 consecutive times to a score? Idiotic.

Later in the 4th quarter, against a tough Iowa D and desperately needing at least 10-15 more yards to get in field goal range, did the coaches really think running Williamson and Potts up the middle on 1st and 2nd downs would end in anything other than a 3rd and long situation for a freshman QB with an unreliable WR corps?

These are just a couple of examples, but the game was full of frustrating decisions or lack thereof.
 

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