Players should be kicked off team for being at a gang bang with 17 yr old recruit

[Zeppelin Gopher]

Getting back to original premise of this thread, I have several questions regarding potential violations of team rules.
1. This incident supposedly occurred around 3am. Is there not a curfew for having the recruits out and about?
2. The victim is a member of "GameDay operation " but we don't know what specifically. Does this job/role require they not sex with players?

Seems we have a gap in putting controls around these situations which have some level of oversight by the coaches and administration. Nobody looks good and all should be accountable.

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It's been pretty widely reported that the alleged victim is/was a Gopher cheerleader.

 

[Winnipegopher]

It's been pretty widely reported that the alleged victim is/was a Gopher cheerleader.

It has been widely reported but it is speculation. My guess it is someone closer to the players on gameday like a trainer. Someone who's duty has them with the players on the bench.

 

[stocker08]

It's been pretty widely reported that the alleged victim is/was a Gopher cheerleader.

It is.

 

[PMWinSTP]

It has been widely reported but it is speculation. My guess it is someone closer to the players on gameday like a trainer. Someone who's duty has them with the players on the bench.

Hmmm...pretty sure they were allowed to play at the away games, yes?

 

[dpodoll68]

Because they raped a woman

Link?

 

[CoMn]

the question dpodoll68 was why would they want to get rid of evidence...my hypothesis was because they raped a woman. It is not a statement of fact but according to the video, she said no and according to a player she said no again later....

 

[Class_of_99]

she said no and according to a player she said no again later....

The police determined that the first 'no' was said in a sarcastic way and the girl has now changed her story such that the first threesome was consensual. So, you continuing to bring up the first 'no' is just undermining your own point as the girl's own story at this point as that the first no did not mean no. As for the second 'no' - that is not from a player. That is as reported by the EOAA and attributed to a player without context or transcript. You hanging your hat on that as the statement from the player is outright dishonest. I would argue even more dishonest that continuing to bring up the completely debunked (by the police AND THE 'VICTIM') first 'no'.

 

[UpnorthGo4]

The police determined that the first 'no' was said in a sarcastic way and the girl has now changed her story such that the first threesome was consensual. So, you continuing to bring up the first 'no' is just undermining your own point as the girl's own story at this point as that the first no did not mean no. As for the second 'no' - that is not from a player. That is as reported by the EOAA and attributed to a player without context or transcript. You hanging your hat on that as the statement from the player is outright dishonest. I would argue even more dishonest that continuing to bring up the completely debunked (by the police AND THE 'VICTIM') first 'no'.

The hearing will help resolve these issues. We can only hope the hearing officers aren't as biased and close minded as all the GopherHolers who have already decided that the girl never said no and therefore a hearing with attorneys, witnesses, and cross-examination is a travesty of justice for the players. Then they want the girl kicked out of school for fuking a 17 year old, and sued for damages for lying about. And they want it to happen now.

 

[Class_of_99]

The hearing will help resolve these issues.

You need to check you expectations as this 'hearing' is being conducted by a panel with no investigatory authority or expertise. Further, the entire process has already been irreparably damaged by the EOAA producing their report without allow the accused to have legal representation. I understand that this entire ****show is the way that the EOAA is set to function - that they followed their own ridiculous process is not at issue - the process itself is the issue. If you don't have issues with the way the process is set up and run, then you simply lack American values. It really is that simple.

There is only 1 authority that should be empowered to brand someone a rapist - and that is law enforcement. I can only hope with Trump getting elected, that this constant swing to the left that has reached laughable proportions will finally come back towards the middle. I won't be sending any of my children or money to the U for a long, long time after this embarrassment.

 

[saintpaulguy]

You need to check you expectations as this 'hearing' is being conducted by a panel with no investigatory authority or expertise. Further, the entire process has already been irreparably damaged by the EOAA producing their report without allow the accused to have legal representation. I understand that this entire ****show is the way that the EOAA is set to function - that they followed their own ridiculous process is not at issue - the process itself is the issue. If you don't have issues with the way the process is set up and run, then you simply lack American values. It really is that simple.

There is only 1 authority that should be empowered to brand someone a rapist - and that is law enforcement. I can only hope with Trump getting elected, that this constant swing to the left that has reached laughable proportions will finally come back towards the middle. I won't be sending any of my children or money to the U for a long, long time after this embarrassment.

Mr Trump is tremendous at recognizing sexual harassment.

 

[CoMn]

The hearing will help resolve these issues. We can only hope the hearing officers aren't as biased and close minded as all the GopherHolers who have already decided that the girl never said no and therefore a hearing with attorneys, witnesses, and cross-examination is a travesty of justice for the players. Then they want the girl kicked out of school for fuking a 17 year old, and sued for damages for lying about. And they want it to happen now.

No UpNorth...according to Mr. Still, justice will be served when she is put in handcuffs and locked up in jail..that's what they want.

 

[Spoofin]

The hearing will help resolve these issues. We can only hope the hearing officers aren't as biased and close minded as all <b>the GopherHolers who have already decided that the girl never said no </b>and therefore a hearing with attorneys, witnesses, and cross-examination is a travesty of justice for the players. Then they want the girl kicked out of school for fuking a 17 year old, and sued for damages for lying about. And they want it to happen now.

To be fair, the police were the first to declare that not any GHer. Any shot you have of painting others as being closed minded is so rich. Every "fact" you have comes from the EOAA and you declared before the report was even released that you "sure weren't going to believe a bunch of football players." I have now asked you to justify that prejudiced statement at least 10-times, I wonder why you won't? Still after just the facts, huh?

Stay in school kids.


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[GoGophersUMN]

It has been widely reported but it is speculation. My guess it is someone closer to the players on gameday like a trainer. Someone who's duty has them with the players on the bench.

Well now that it's out there,

The original leaked document mentioned that she was a cheerleader. Almost all of the mentions of it were blacked out but there was one that they missed. Later that day they changed the document to have it blacked out. Unless the document was wrong, it's pretty much confirmed.