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There seems to be some lamenting on this board that most of our latest commitments are 3* athletes (according to the Rivals list). Granted, these aren't the 4* athletes that Ohio State, Penn State, and even DickRod have been getting. But let's compare what has been happening under Brewster to that of Mason:

2002 - Only 3 total 3* signings, only 1 of whom was significant (Setterstrom). Notable 2*s, however, included Trumaine Banks, Cupito, Eslinger, Hosack, Reese, and Spaeth.

2003 - Mason's best class included two 4*s (Maroney and Paris Hamilton), 14 3*s, and 11 2*s. Of the 16 3-4*s, some notable names included Maroney, Brinkhaus, Owens, Pinnix, Shevlin, Shidell, Valentine, and Wheelwright. Notable 2*s included Jamal Harris, Rhys Lloyd, and Logan Payne. It needs to be noted again that this was Mason's best class.

2004 - The 04 season marked a return to old ways: 6 3*s, only two of whom were very significant (Dom Barber and Jack Simmons). Also note that Rivals started the point scale ratings that year, and only Leland Jones was rated a 5.6 or higher. The rest were 2*s, including notables Giannini, Hightower, Kucek, Mortensen, Gary Russell, and Willy VanDeSteeg.

2005 - Alex Daniels was the one 4*. There were 10 3*s, marking a decent recruiting year for Mason; the 3*s included some pretty good players: Steve Davis, Dom Jones, Ruckdashel, Tavale, Jay Thomas, and Nate Triplett. It should be noted, however, that no one was rated above a 5.5 except for that Daniels guy. Notable 2*s? Eric Decker (5.3) and Matt Stommes. As it turns out, this class should have been a bit better than it was, ending largely disappointing.

2006 - Mason didn't improve his recruiting any in 2006...only 9 3*s, of whom few have played signficant roles (thus far): Adam Weber (5.5), Burris (5.5), Brown (5.5). There were four 5.6s, none of whom seemed to pan out. No one was rated above that. Notable 2*s include Dom Alford, Brinkhaus, Lee Campbell, and Ellestad.

2007 - This was mainly a Mason class, with some of Brewster's new recruits piled on at the end. It included one 4* (Anthony Jacobs), and 9 3*s, including Bunders (5.5), Collado (5.5), Trey Davis (5.6), Curtis Thomas (5.7), Uu (5.5), and Ryan Orton (5.6), Andre Tate (5.7) and Clint Brewster (5.7). Of these, there were 6 guys rated 5.6 or higher, a significant step forward from Mason years; however as we can see, these guys have not yet made a big dent on the team (some never will). 2* notables so far include Duane Bennett (5.4), Eric Small (5.4), and Kyle Theret (5.1), and the infamous Ralph Spry (5.1). This began the Brewster era. The Rivals rankings were obviously a bit higher here than under Mason, but the big changes didn't occur until...

2008 - The Brewster era really started: 7 4*s (Gray, Cooper, Green, Maresh, BPT, Pittman, but also Vince Hill); and 17 more 3*s, including Brock (5.6), Dandridge (5.5), Edwards (5.7), Eskridge (5.5), Kirksey (5.5), Lair (5.6), Lawrence (5.6), McKinley (5.5), Reeves (5.7), Salamon (5.5), Sharpe (5.6), B. Smith (5.7), Stoudermire (5.5), Tinsley (5.5), Whaley (5.7), and Wilhite (5.5). The number of 5.6-or higher recruits jumped from 6 under Mason from all of 2004 to 2006 up to 15!

2009 - Brewster had an arguably better class in 2009, even though the team ranking was lower. Why? Well the number of high-end recruits again increased. 2009 included three 4*s (Michael Carter, Hayo Carpenter, and the yet-to-join-Lipscomb). It also included 15 more 3*s out of 20 total recruits: Alipate (5.7), Allen (5.7), Campion (5.7), Garin (5.7), Gregory-McGhee (5.7), Hageman (5.7), Jacques (5.5), Keise (5.6), K. Lewis (5.7), Michel (5.5), Olson (5.6), Searcy (5.7), Singleton (5.6), Watkins (5.6), and Wills (5.5); and also a 2* that already has started (Orseske). In total, this class had 15 5.6 or higher recruits, 11 of whom were 5.7 or better. For only 20 total recruits, one could argue that this class had an equal or higher percentage of potential playmakers than even the 2008 class.

This all leads to what some are calling a "disappointing" 2010 class. Hmmm. So far, 17 verbals. Two 4*s (Gjere, L. Edwards), 10 3*s among them (assuming Ragoo is 3*). Of these 17 verbals, at least six are rated 5.6 or higher.

It's understandable to say that this class, so far, is not as high-end as the last two because of the lower percentage of 5.6+ recruits. But let's put this all into perspective. Again, there were only SIX 5.6+ recruits and only 26 total 3-4*s under Mason from 2004-2006. That's it. So 2010, with 11 scholarships left to go, already has 12 3-4*s, which is already almost as many as Mason's best class (16) in 2004.

The rousing success of Brewster in 2008 and 2009 has yet to be shown on the field, as most of these recruits are still RS freshmen, freshmen, and sophomores, with some upper class JC transfers sprinkled in. The team has much more talent than 2-3 years ago, much more depth, and is arguably winning as many or more games with most of its incoming talent still on the bench or still in non-starting roles. And the 2010 class is almost already stronger than Mason's best class; suggesting that, even if it doesn't end up as solid as the last two classes, it should still be plenty good to infuse plenty more talent into the Minnesota football program. Things are looking up!
 

Nicely done cncmin. Also to note that the lower ranked athletes tend to commit earlier than the higher ranked as they need to assure their spots. In other words this class is likely to get better as it fills out.
 

It should also be acknowledged, that there are a couple of rounds of reevaluations before this years recruit grades, are finalized. Some of the below radar guys just might end up with higher grades.
 

are we talking rivals stars or espn stars?? Because they are ranked differnt
 

are we talking rivals stars or espn stars?? Because they are ranked differnt

First sentence of his message states Rivals.

I posted something similar to this last week just comparing Brewsters classes (can't remember which thread though) using ESPN rankings and the classes were pretty similar.

Go Gophers!!
SK Gopher
 


cncmin,

Awesome, I posted something similar last week, but i took about 10 minutes to research and type, you obviously took more than that and got a better product with names and actual data.

I couldnt agree more. We are in on better recruits, getting better recruits and i believe that that is beginning to show up on the field and will be moreso as time passes.
 

There seems to be some lamenting on this board that most of our latest commitments are 3* athletes (according to the Rivals list). Granted, these aren't the 4* athletes that Ohio State, Penn State, and even DickRod have been getting. But let's compare what has been happening under Brewster to that of Mason:

2002 - Only 3 total 3* signings, only 1 of whom was significant (Setterstrom). Notable 2*s, however, included Trumaine Banks, Cupito, Eslinger, Hosack, Reese, and Spaeth.

2003 - Mason's best class included two 4*s (Maroney and Paris Hamilton), 14 3*s, and 11 2*s. Of the 16 3-4*s, some notable names included Maroney, Brinkhaus, Owens, Pinnix, Shevlin, Shidell, Valentine, and Wheelwright. Notable 2*s included Jamal Harris, Rhys Lloyd, and Logan Payne. It needs to be noted again that this was Mason's best class.

2004 - The 04 season marked a return to old ways: 6 3*s, only two of whom were very significant (Dom Barber and Jack Simmons). Also note that Rivals started the point scale ratings that year, and only Leland Jones was rated a 5.6 or higher. The rest were 2*s, including notables Giannini, Hightower, Kucek, Mortensen, Gary Russell, and Willy VanDeSteeg.

2005 - Alex Daniels was the one 4*. There were 10 3*s, marking a decent recruiting year for Mason; the 3*s included some pretty good players: Steve Davis, Dom Jones, Ruckdashel, Tavale, Jay Thomas, and Nate Triplett. It should be noted, however, that no one was rated above a 5.5 except for that Daniels guy. Notable 2*s? Eric Decker (5.3) and Matt Stommes. As it turns out, this class should have been a bit better than it was, ending largely disappointing.

2006 - Mason didn't improve his recruiting any in 2006...only 9 3*s, of whom few have played signficant roles (thus far): Adam Weber (5.5), Burris (5.5), Brown (5.5). There were four 5.6s, none of whom seemed to pan out. No one was rated above that. Notable 2*s include Dom Alford, Brinkhaus, Lee Campbell, and Ellestad.

2007 - This was mainly a Mason class, with some of Brewster's new recruits piled on at the end. It included one 4* (Anthony Jacobs), and 9 3*s, including Bunders (5.5), Collado (5.5), Trey Davis (5.6), Curtis Thomas (5.7), Uu (5.5), and Ryan Orton (5.6), Andre Tate (5.7) and Clint Brewster (5.7). Of these, there were 6 guys rated 5.6 or higher, a significant step forward from Mason years; however as we can see, these guys have not yet made a big dent on the team (some never will). 2* notables so far include Duane Bennett (5.4), Eric Small (5.4), and Kyle Theret (5.1), and the infamous Ralph Spry (5.1). This began the Brewster era. The Rivals rankings were obviously a bit higher here than under Mason, but the big changes didn't occur until...

2008 - The Brewster era really started: 7 4*s (Gray, Cooper, Green, Maresh, BPT, Pittman, but also Vince Hill); and 17 more 3*s, including Brock (5.6), Dandridge (5.5), Edwards (5.7), Eskridge (5.5), Kirksey (5.5), Lair (5.6), Lawrence (5.6), McKinley (5.5), Reeves (5.7), Salamon (5.5), Sharpe (5.6), B. Smith (5.7), Stoudermire (5.5), Tinsley (5.5), Whaley (5.7), and Wilhite (5.5). The number of 5.6-or higher recruits jumped from 6 under Mason from all of 2004 to 2006 up to 15!

2009 - Brewster had an arguably better class in 2009, even though the team ranking was lower. Why? Well the number of high-end recruits again increased. 2009 included three 4*s (Michael Carter, Hayo Carpenter, and the yet-to-join-Lipscomb). It also included 15 more 3*s out of 20 total recruits: Alipate (5.7), Allen (5.7), Campion (5.7), Garin (5.7), Gregory-McGhee (5.7), Hageman (5.7), Jacques (5.5), Keise (5.6), K. Lewis (5.7), Michel (5.5), Olson (5.6), Searcy (5.7), Singleton (5.6), Watkins (5.6), and Wills (5.5); and also a 2* that already has started (Orseske). In total, this class had 15 5.6 or higher recruits, 11 of whom were 5.7 or better. For only 20 total recruits, one could argue that this class had an equal or higher percentage of potential playmakers than even the 2008 class.

This all leads to what some are calling a "disappointing" 2010 class. Hmmm. So far, 17 verbals. Two 4*s (Gjere, L. Edwards), 10 3*s among them (assuming Ragoo is 3*). Of these 17 verbals, at least six are rated 5.6 or higher.

It's understandable to say that this class, so far, is not as high-end as the last two because of the lower percentage of 5.6+ recruits. But let's put this all into perspective. Again, there were only SIX 5.6+ recruits and only 26 total 3-4*s under Mason from 2004-2006. That's it. So 2010, with 11 scholarships left to go, already has 12 3-4*s, which is already almost as many as Mason's best class (16) in 2004.

The rousing success of Brewster in 2008 and 2009 has yet to be shown on the field, as most of these recruits are still RS freshmen, freshmen, and sophomores, with some upper class JC transfers sprinkled in. The team has much more talent than 2-3 years ago, much more depth, and is arguably winning as many or more games with most of its incoming talent still on the bench or still in non-starting roles. And the 2010 class is almost already stronger than Mason's best class; suggesting that, even if it doesn't end up as solid as the last two classes, it should still be plenty good to infuse plenty more talent into the Minnesota football program. Things are looking up!

Great post, it shows how adding a couple of 4* defensive recruits would make this a great recruiting class.

There are only a handfull of schools that really dominate with mostly 4* recruits, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Florida, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Penn State on occasion, Michigan on occasion. Notre Dame hasn't even dominated with mostly 4* recruits like these others. Recruiting really has been impressive so far.
 

Great post, it shows how adding a couple of 4* defensive recruits would make this a great recruiting class.

There are only a handfull of schools that really dominate with mostly 4* recruits, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Florida, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Penn State on occasion, Michigan on occasion. Notre Dame hasn't even dominated with mostly 4* recruits like these others. Recruiting really has been impressive so far.

Thanks guys...I too, wish that we could load up with blue chip athletes who all have 3.5 GPAs or higher. That's not reality though, and I think Brewster, while learning to coach the game, has done some amazing things already at Minnesota. He has recruited fairly well, has instilled team discipline (Mason also did a good job with this), and has given the team the right attitude - respect for the school, respect for their teammates, respect for their fans, and respect for the game. These kids are psyched to play the game of football! And Brewster seems psyched to be the head coach of the Golden Gophers. This is exactly what we need.

The student body at Minnesota is obviously getting very excited about Minnesota Golden Gopher football...just look at their passion in the student section - if the first two home games are any indication, it's starting to rival some of the better student sections in the nation. And the casual sports fan is taking note of Gopher football too. With an excited student body, generations of new fans are taking root.

The depth of quality recruiting suggests that the Gophers should be at least an average-to-better BCS conference football team for years to come, possibly a title contender. I think as fans, this is what we should expect Minnesota football to be - the hop into that second tier of football programs, right behind the established giants.
 

Good post, I'd never argue the point that Brewster is bringing in more talented athletes and more depth than Mason. However, it would be interesting to find out whether Rivals is giving players higher ratings than they were 4-5 years ago, because fans enjoy it a lot more when their favorite team is picking up 5.7 rr recruits than 5.5 rr recruits. And when fans enjoy recruiting, they're much more likely to shell over $10 a month to read about it. Perhaps someone has done the work?
 



The recruiting is way better under Brewster than Mason. In my opinion, there is no question about the difference. However, I want us to fight the big boys not be hapopy with 2nd tier. If Brewster is getting us to title contention every four-five years than great if not than that is not good enough. We got rid of Mason because he led us from terrible (remember the Wacker years) to mediocre teams most years and on occassion above average teams. Brewsters job, tougher though it is, is to lead us to more above average years than not and once in awhile a big ten championship. Anything less is unacceptable. I know my standards are high but that has to be the goal! Brewster's 1st two full classes were solid and I hope this class is just as good. The bottom line is we need more high 3 and 4* star athletes to fight Michigan, Ohio State, our border rivals and other great schools nationally and good coaching as well.
 


There seems to be some lamenting on this board that most of our latest commitments are 3* athletes (according to the Rivals list). Granted, these aren't the 4* athletes that Ohio State, Penn State, and even DickRod have been getting. But let's compare what has been happening under Brewster to that of Mason:

2002 - Only 3 total 3* signings, only 1 of whom was significant (Setterstrom). Notable 2*s, however, included Trumaine Banks, Cupito, Eslinger, Hosack, Reese, and Spaeth.

2003 - Mason's best class included two 4*s (Maroney and Paris Hamilton), 14 3*s, and 11 2*s. Of the 16 3-4*s, some notable names included Maroney, Brinkhaus, Owens, Pinnix, Shevlin, Shidell, Valentine, and Wheelwright. Notable 2*s included Jamal Harris, Rhys Lloyd, and Logan Payne. It needs to be noted again that this was Mason's best class.

2004 - The 04 season marked a return to old ways: 6 3*s, only two of whom were very significant (Dom Barber and Jack Simmons). Also note that Rivals started the point scale ratings that year, and only Leland Jones was rated a 5.6 or higher. The rest were 2*s, including notables Giannini, Hightower, Kucek, Mortensen, Gary Russell, and Willy VanDeSteeg.

2005 - Alex Daniels was the one 4*. There were 10 3*s, marking a decent recruiting year for Mason; the 3*s included some pretty good players: Steve Davis, Dom Jones, Ruckdashel, Tavale, Jay Thomas, and Nate Triplett. It should be noted, however, that no one was rated above a 5.5 except for that Daniels guy. Notable 2*s? Eric Decker (5.3) and Matt Stommes. As it turns out, this class should have been a bit better than it was, ending largely disappointing.

2006 - Mason didn't improve his recruiting any in 2006...only 9 3*s, of whom few have played signficant roles (thus far): Adam Weber (5.5), Burris (5.5), Brown (5.5). There were four 5.6s, none of whom seemed to pan out. No one was rated above that. Notable 2*s include Dom Alford, Brinkhaus, Lee Campbell, and Ellestad.

2007 - This was mainly a Mason class, with some of Brewster's new recruits piled on at the end. It included one 4* (Anthony Jacobs), and 9 3*s, including Bunders (5.5), Collado (5.5), Trey Davis (5.6), Curtis Thomas (5.7), Uu (5.5), and Ryan Orton (5.6), Andre Tate (5.7) and Clint Brewster (5.7). Of these, there were 6 guys rated 5.6 or higher, a significant step forward from Mason years; however as we can see, these guys have not yet made a big dent on the team (some never will). 2* notables so far include Duane Bennett (5.4), Eric Small (5.4), and Kyle Theret (5.1), and the infamous Ralph Spry (5.1). This began the Brewster era. The Rivals rankings were obviously a bit higher here than under Mason, but the big changes didn't occur until...

2008 - The Brewster era really started: 7 4*s (Gray, Cooper, Green, Maresh, BPT, Pittman, but also Vince Hill); and 17 more 3*s, including Brock (5.6), Dandridge (5.5), Edwards (5.7), Eskridge (5.5), Kirksey (5.5), Lair (5.6), Lawrence (5.6), McKinley (5.5), Reeves (5.7), Salamon (5.5), Sharpe (5.6), B. Smith (5.7), Stoudermire (5.5), Tinsley (5.5), Whaley (5.7), and Wilhite (5.5). The number of 5.6-or higher recruits jumped from 6 under Mason from all of 2004 to 2006 up to 15!

2009 - Brewster had an arguably better class in 2009, even though the team ranking was lower. Why? Well the number of high-end recruits again increased. 2009 included three 4*s (Michael Carter, Hayo Carpenter, and the yet-to-join-Lipscomb). It also included 15 more 3*s out of 20 total recruits: Alipate (5.7), Allen (5.7), Campion (5.7), Garin (5.7), Gregory-McGhee (5.7), Hageman (5.7), Jacques (5.5), Keise (5.6), K. Lewis (5.7), Michel (5.5), Olson (5.6), Searcy (5.7), Singleton (5.6), Watkins (5.6), and Wills (5.5); and also a 2* that already has started (Orseske). In total, this class had 15 5.6 or higher recruits, 11 of whom were 5.7 or better. For only 20 total recruits, one could argue that this class had an equal or higher percentage of potential playmakers than even the 2008 class.

This all leads to what some are calling a "disappointing" 2010 class. Hmmm. So far, 17 verbals. Two 4*s (Gjere, L. Edwards), 10 3*s among them (assuming Ragoo is 3*). Of these 17 verbals, at least six are rated 5.6 or higher.

It's understandable to say that this class, so far, is not as high-end as the last two because of the lower percentage of 5.6+ recruits. But let's put this all into perspective. Again, there were only SIX 5.6+ recruits and only 26 total 3-4*s under Mason from 2004-2006. That's it. So 2010, with 11 scholarships left to go, already has 12 3-4*s, which is already almost as many as Mason's best class (16) in 2004.

The rousing success of Brewster in 2008 and 2009 has yet to be shown on the field, as most of these recruits are still RS freshmen, freshmen, and sophomores, with some upper class JC transfers sprinkled in. The team has much more talent than 2-3 years ago, much more depth, and is arguably winning as many or more games with most of its incoming talent still on the bench or still in non-starting roles. And the 2010 class is almost already stronger than Mason's best class; suggesting that, even if it doesn't end up as solid as the last two classes, it should still be plenty good to infuse plenty more talent into the Minnesota football program. Things are looking up!

Great work! I thought Edwards was a 3* though. Also, it would be interesting to see how many 4* guys from 2008 are making an impact
 

I'm an Ohio guy and new to this site, but I didn't know you guys worry about stars like that. Man this is crazy!! It depends on how hard you work and how much you want to play if your a good college player.....not stars!!
 



I'm an Ohio guy and new to this site, but I didn't know you guys worry about stars like that. Man this is crazy!! It depends on how hard you work and how much you want to play if your a good college player.....not stars!!

Wrong - it depends on athletic ability too, something the former coach didn't worry too much about, which is the main reason his teams weren't good enough and why he got fired.
 


You could include Greg Jones and David Gilreath in Mason's 2007 Class.

And you somehow missed Harold Howell.
 

remember, our recruits don't magically...

I'm an Ohio guy and new to this site, but I didn't know you guys worry about stars like that. Man this is crazy!! It depends on how hard you work and how much you want to play if your a good college player.....not stars!!

move from 3 to 4 stars or 4 to 5 because they get an offer or commit from us like yours do.
No matter how bad the star system is, it's not like any of us get to travel the country watching High school pracatices, camps, and games so we have to take somebody else's word for it.
I did a quick perusal of two OSU boards and found a couple of threads and many posts talking about stars for recruits being too low or in one case too high. You might want to check your own backyard first before looking over the fence to critique mine.

found in 5 secs. at Buckeye sports.net "4 star WR James Louis is a Buckeye" and then a bunch of posts complaining the he is "a five star player".
 

I'm an Ohio guy and new to this site, but I didn't know you guys worry about stars like that. Man this is crazy!! It depends on how hard you work and how much you want to play if your a good college player.....not stars!!


How would an OSU fan understand? Their roster is full of 4 and 5 star studs. We a get a couple of 4 stars and celebrate.

But he is correct about the hard work and desire no matter the number of stars. Minnesota fans are very familiar with that scenerio.

I was surprised at how many two stars were named All Big Ten last season.
 

why were you surprised?

How would an OSU fan understand? Their roster is full of 4 and 5 star studs. We a get a couple of 4 stars and celebrate.

But he is correct about the hard work and desire no matter the number of stars. Minnesota fans are very familiar with that scenerio.

I was surprised at how many two stars were named All Big Ten last season.

it been this way since Lemmings started this star foolishness.

I was just calling out Troll Hypocracy
 

I think maybe, it's possible that 2*'s that get schollies are thought more highly by the coaches that offer than their ranking. I'd put them in the flying under the radar category. Now the walk-on's that achieve the accolades are much more impressive to me, but there are many more of them than 4-5*s.

3* that do well are evidence of nothing since there's alot of them.
4-5* simply becuase they are talented, but there's not so many of them.

As always, its the full compliment of traits that creates the total athlete and the star system only measures some of those traits. But let's not draw weird conclusions from the exceptions.
 


Good post, I'd never argue the point that Brewster is bringing in more talented athletes and more depth than Mason. However, it would be interesting to find out whether Rivals is giving players higher ratings than they were 4-5 years ago, because fans enjoy it a lot more when their favorite team is picking up 5.7 rr recruits than 5.5 rr recruits. And when fans enjoy recruiting, they're much more likely to shell over $10 a month to read about it. Perhaps someone has done the work?

I was wondering the same thing. Has there been "star inflation" much like the "grade inflation" of the last decade or so? How many 5, 4, and 3 stars grades were handed out in 2000 compared to 2008?
 

I think maybe, it's possible that 2*'s that get schollies are thought more highly by the coaches that offer than their ranking. I'd put them in the flying under the radar category. Now the walk-on's that achieve the accolades are much more impressive to me, but there are many more of them than 4-5*s.

Kind of in addition to your initial point, these coaches talk to these guys. So maybe on some tape eval, Rivals/Scout/ESPN only see a 2* quality athlete, but after the coaches get to see the kid in camps and talking to him learn more about the player and if they like them, they offer a scholarship. It's not like they wait for the recruiting service to give a player a good grade and say, oh, let me offer this kid then cause Rivals says he's a 4 star lol.
 

I like the comparison between the classes using Rivals star rating but one thing should be understood...Rivals has become quite liberal over the years in their star and rating system.

I did some research last winter on this very subject. Not wanting to do it again, you'll just have to take my word for it. Basically, Rivals is rating more and more players with an extra star compared to 5 to 7 years ago. In 2002 and 2003, there were literally hundreds of more 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, and 5.3 two star recruits compared to 2007 and 2008. Also, there are many more 5.5, 5.6, and 5.7 three star recruits in the 2007 and 2008 classes compared to the 2002 and 2003. Either there's just more talent now compared to 5 or 7 years ago (doubtful) or Rivals has watered down their ranking system.

A 5.7 three star recruit is not what it meant earlier in the decade so using Rival's rating system to prove a point over the years is misleading and not accurate. However, I'm more of an offer list kind of guy in judging recruits anyways and in that regard, Brewster's recruits kick the snot out of Mason's.

Not slamming the original post in the thread just pointing out that using Rival's rating system to prove a point when comparing classes over the years is very flawed.
 

I think rivals increased their coverage. So they evaluate much more talent than they use to. And I do believe they made some changes a few years ago as well. So it is dicey comparing today with ten years ago, not so much the last few years though.
 

I was wondering the same thing. Has there been "star inflation" much like the "grade inflation" of the last decade or so? How many 5, 4, and 3 stars grades were handed out in 2000 compared to 2008?

I did a quick search on the database at Rivals. Here were the numbers:

4 stars or more
2002 - 479
2003 - 306
2004 - 278
2005 - 320
2006 - 370
2007 - 380
2008 - 405
2009 - 436
2010 - 396

3 stars or more
2002 - 1,166
2003 - 1,323
2004 - 938
2005 - 1,131
2006 - 1,241
2007 - 1,369
2008 - 1,398
2009 - 1,733
2010 - 1,704

As you can see, there is a decent jump in '09 and '10 in the number of 3 star recruits. 4 stars stayed pretty consistent. Could be a matter of having more means to evaluate more players on tape than before for the more "obscure" recruits. Who knows.
 

I think the preponderence of player and coach...

created recruiting videos could have some part in that.
 

I did a quick search on the database at Rivals. Here were the numbers:

4 stars or more
2002 - 479
2003 - 306
2004 - 278
2005 - 320
2006 - 370
2007 - 380
2008 - 405
2009 - 436
2010 - 396

3 stars or more
2002 - 1,166
2003 - 1,323
2004 - 938
2005 - 1,131
2006 - 1,241
2007 - 1,369
2008 - 1,398
2009 - 1,733
2010 - 1,704

As you can see, there is a decent jump in '09 and '10 in the number of 3 star recruits. 4 stars stayed pretty consistent. Could be a matter of having more means to evaluate more players on tape than before for the more "obscure" recruits. Who knows.

This would be more valuable if we knew the total number of athletes rated each year. Please post those numbers if you have them available.
 

This would be more valuable if we knew the total number of athletes rated each year. Please post those numbers if you have them available.

Total in the Rivals database (many not scouted at all, no stars)
2002 - 3,926
2003 - 4,263
2004 - 4,680
2005 - 5,120
2006 - 6,441
2007 - 7,874
2008 - 8,538
2009 - 8,962
2010 - 8,446 so far

Total in Rivals database that have actually been scouted in some way (Have stars)
2002 - 3,171
2003 - 3,410
2004 - 3,375
2005 - 3,560
2006 - 3,643
2007 - 3,385
2008 - 3,600
2009 - 3,871
2010 - 2,725 so far

2010 is low because many haven't been scouted yet, we have two of those ourselves, but it looks like the actual evaluated number of players has only changed a little, while the number of players who are entered at all has gone up quite a bit.
 

So, really it hasn't changed much in the last 4-5 years; stayed around 11% for 4 stars

2002 479 3,171 15.1
2003 306 3,410 9.0
2004 278 3,375 8.2
2005 320 3,560 9.0
2006 370 3,643 10.2
2007 380 3,385 11.2
2008 405 3,600 11.3
2009 436 3,871 11.3
2010 396 2,725 14.5


While there seems to be some elevation in the 3 stars

2002 1,166 36.8
2003 1,323 38.8
2004 938 27.8
2005 1,131 31.8
2006 1,241 34.1
2007 1,369 40.4
2008 1,398 38.8
2009 1,733 44.8
2010 1,704 62.5

Go Gophers
SK Gopher
 




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