One of Coach Kill's messages to Gopher players...

[dinkything]

When Coach Kill was introduced to the Gopher squad one early morning last week, he had several items to cover during his address to the squad.

One of the items on his agenda was academics...

In a nutshell, Coach Kill gave a collective 'pat on the back' to the returning Gophers who are in good academic standing.

Not sure this has been covered on these boards...but then...he turned his sights on the 22 players who were/are presumably not in such good academic standing...and he gave them their group message.

As folks discuss who's coming, who's staying, who's departing, who's changing their commitment, etc., it's important to know that the days of academic lip service in dinkytown are over.

 

[Ski U Mah 55]

Good for coach Kill.

 

[Gopher Bandanna Guy]

Nice to see Kill tightening up the ship, while the Hawkeyes apparently do the reverse.

 

[northerngopher]

Lose some?

So, are we going to lose some players due to elegibility???

 

[GoAUpher]

So, are we going to lose some players due to elegibility???

Who knows. Eligibility may not have anything to do with it. You can be eligible but still not be doing great when it comes to being on track for graduation. Its possible that the message was about higher standards in general.

 

[50PoundHead]

So, are we going to lose some players due to elegibility???

I wouldn't know for sure, but I believe that Brewster did establish some academic expectations and perhaps that is what Kill was referencing when he spoke to the team.

 

[Formo]

Source?

 

[Unregistered User]

Hadn't they shown a great improvement in the football team's APR recently? It's not like they had been ignoring academics for the past few years. With that being said, it's nice to bring in a coach with Kill's history of placing a high standard on academic progress.

 

[Gophers09]

Hadn't they shown a great improvement in the football team's APR recently? It's not like they had been ignoring academics for the past few years. With that being said, it's nice to bring in a coach with Kill's history of placing a high standard on academic progress.

I think that's right but it's possible and likely that not everyone was contributing that which is probably the reason a couple guys had to get suspended during the year as well.

 

[Unregistered User]

I think that's right but it's possible and likely that not everyone was contributing that which is probably the reason a couple guys had to get suspended during the year as well.

I understand that and am not questioning that. It seems like some people will read this like they were running the U like an SEC program during Brew's tenure. It would seem that every team, no matter how loose or stringent the academic requirements, will have players that are not meeting their requirements.

I applaud the team as a whole for brining up the APR.

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

Nice to see Kill tightening up the ship, while the Hawkeyes apparently do the reverse.

Don't you just love it when people talk merely to hear themselves:

IOWA FOOTBALL AND THE NCAA’S GRADUATION SUCCESS RATE

2010 Report: 79
2009 Report: 74
2008 Report: 75
2007 Report: 73
2006 Report: 65
2005 Report: 58

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

When Coach Kill was introduced to the Gopher squad one early morning last week, he had several items to cover during his address to the squad.

One of the items on his agenda was academics...

In a nutshell, Coach Kill gave a collective 'pat on the back' to the returning Gophers who are in good academic standing.

Not sure this has been covered on these boards...but then...he turned his sights on the 22 players who were/are presumably not in such good academic standing...and he gave them their group message.

As folks discuss who's coming, who's staying, who's departing, who's changing their commitment, etc., it's important to know that the days of academic lip service in dinkytown are over.

Does this mean these guys have to make real progress toward a viable degree and not simply buoy a GPA by taking golf, advanced jump rope, intro to doubles tennis, soccer I, and volleyball dynamics as was the MO while brewster was here?

 

[Silvio]

Don't you just love it when people talk merely to hear themselves:

IOWA FOOTBALL AND THE NCAA’S GRADUATION SUCCESS RATE

2010 Report: 79
2009 Report: 74
2008 Report: 75
2007 Report: 73
2006 Report: 65
2005 Report: 58

I think he was referring to their issues surrounding...umm...drug testing? No?

 

[Silvio]

Does this mean these guys have to make real progress toward a viable degree and not simply buoy a GPA by taking golf, advanced jump rope, intro to doubles tennis, soccer I, and volleyball dynamics as was the MO while brewster was here?

Why do you run down the courses you took in school?

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Don't you just love it when people talk merely to hear themselves:

IOWA FOOTBALL AND THE NCAA’S GRADUATION SUCCESS RATE

2010 Report: 79
2009 Report: 74
2008 Report: 75
2007 Report: 73
2006 Report: 65
2005 Report: 58

I think he is talking about the multiple players being involved in operating a drug house. (allegedly)

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

I think he was referring to their issues surrounding...umm...drug testing? No?

Really? Have they reported a lot of positives or something?

 

[Silvio]

I think he is talking about the multiple players being involved in operating a drug house. (allegedly)

But they have put their economics and business classes to good use, a real world model if you will. We can also assume that Mr. Ricki Stanzi wasn't involved.

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

I think he is talking about the multiple players being involved in operating a drug house. (allegedly)

You mean [one] being involved, or do you have a link citing "multiple players?" As for as the [one] goes, we shouldn't even call him a player as he was booted less than 24 hours after getting busted.

 

[Silvio]

Really? Have they reported a lot of positives or something?

Something like that.

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

But they have put their economics and business classes to good use, a real world model if you will. We can also assume that Mr. Ricki Stanzi wasn't involved.

Assume? Why must we as a fanbase cling to rumor and false misfortune of a competitor? ESPN refuted most of what was going around down there and Stanzi' name was never mentioned so why bring it up? We have enough of our own skeletons to hide without furthering this nonsense.

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

Something like that.

Since noon today? ESPN says no one failed the program administered tests.

 

[Silvio]

Assume? Why must we as a fanbase cling to rumor and false misfortune of a competitor? ESPN refuted most of what was going around down there and Stanzi' name was never mentioned so why bring it up? We have enough of our own skeletons to hide without furthering this nonsense.

Calm down hawkeye fan. It was a two part joke.

Part 1.

Iowa basically admitted today they have found major problems with their drug testing program. The basic problem is that players were easily able to get around the system.


Part 2.

Ricki Stanzi. This was a reference to a interview he gave were he talked about how he wasn't smart enough to get into the business school.

 

[Silvio]

Since noon today? ESPN says no one failed the program administered tests.

Iowa has said there was a reason for that and their testing procedures are going to be dramatically altered.

 

[Klondike Gopher Fan]

Iowa has said there was a reason for that and their testing procedures are going to be dramatically altered.

Ya...ok...uh huh......

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Does this mean these guys have to make real progress toward a viable degree and not simply buoy a GPA by taking golf, advanced jump rope, intro to doubles tennis, soccer I, and volleyball dynamics as was the MO while brewster was here?

The APR numbers got drastically better under Tim Brewster to a point where the NCAA considered them amongst the "high performing teams" with a score of 968. This is a total of 80 points higher than it was when Brew arrived to Dinkytown.

Now, the APR doesn't calculate GPA into their formula so the idea that taking "jump rope" would somehow improve this score is kind of off. The NCAA created this metric as a way to judge how programs do at getting guys degrees. This metric has also proven to be a pretty good indicator of whether or not kids are really working to get their degrees (The U jumped from 41% under Mase to 56% last season with Brew).

So the numbers seem to indicate that Brew was actually "righting the ship" or at least giving it an honest effort as the actual graduation numbers were improving drastically as well as the APR (ncaa standard for the entire program moving towards graduation).

I don't like Brewster but the idea that he ran a dirty program is bogus.

 

[RodentRampage]

There's no bad time to smack Iowa.

 

[Silvio]

Ya...ok...uh huh......

"We have not caught anybody getting around the system," Barta said. "Unfortunately, there's enough evidence in our protocol to say we have to tighten up. It's pretty likely that someone -- I don't know if it's 1 or 21 -- someone has gotten around this process.

"And if it's only one, it makes you doubt all testing."

 

[Khaliq]

Iowa found a problem with one player circumventing testing and proactively are taking steps to revamp their procedures. That seems appropriate and like not that big of a deal.

 

[Silvio]

The APR numbers got drastically better under Tim Brewster to a point where the NCAA considered them amongst the "high performing teams" with a score of 968. This is a total of 80 points higher than it was when Brew arrived to Dinkytown.

Now, the APR doesn't calculate GPA into their formula so the idea that taking "jump rope" would somehow improve this score is kind of off. The NCAA created this metric as a way to judge how programs do at getting guys degrees. This metric has also proven to be a pretty good indicator of whether or not kids are really working to get their degrees (The U jumped from 41% under Mase to 56% last season with Brew).

So the numbers seem to indicate that Brew was actually "righting the ship" or at least giving it an honest effort as the actual graduation numbers were improving drastically as well as the APR (ncaa standard for the entire program moving towards graduation).

I don't like Brewster but the idea that he ran a dirty program is bogus.

Jewell Hampton said "Did I hear dirty program? How soon can I transfer?"

 

[Silvio]

Iowa found a problem with one player circumventing testing and proactively are taking steps to revamp their procedures. That seems appropriate and like not that big of a deal.

No. Iowa found proof that one player has circumvented the testing. There may or may not be others. Based on the boards there may have been a second player who has suddenly quit the team by refusing to take a test. Don't know if the last part is true, but we know he quit the team.