OHIO STATE'S AMIR RIEP, JAHSEN WINT CHARGED WITH RAPE, KIDNAPPING

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PitinoFan said:
Sure they do. Google it.

It’s less common, but there are also significantly fewer college hockey players, as compared to football.
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I don’t hear of even one hockey player a year being accused of such a thing like this. Patrick Kane accused but found not guilty. Evander Kane was accused, but no charges filed. I see about three articles linked to college hockey teams. It seems to be common in football, it appears to be rare in the hockey community.
 

mjfelton15 said:
I don’t hear of even one hockey player a year being accused of such a thing like this. Patrick Kane accused but found not guilty. Evander Kane was accused, but no charges filed. I see about three articles linked to college hockey teams. It seems to be common in football, it appears to be rare in the hockey community.
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Ok what's your point?
 





A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
What does that even mean?
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That schools are recruiting players with bad upbringings, raised around bad elements, and they bring that culture into football with them. A lot of schools are willing to take crap kids into their football program if it means winning. This is the result. A few sexual assault or rape cases in the news every year.
 

mjfelton15 said:
That schools are recruiting players with bad upbringings, raised around bad elements, and they bring that culture into football with them. A lot of schools are willing to take crap kids into their football program if it means winning. This is the result. A few sexual assault or rape cases in the news every year.
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What's the solution, don't recruit kids from "bad upbringings"?
 



Gophers1992 said:
What's the solution, don't recruit kids from "bad upbringings"?
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No, just do better vetting of a recruits character. Dig a little more into their background. Run a tighter ship like Fleck does. Fleck seems to have things figured out fairly well from what I can tell. You still haven’t answered my question.
 

mjfelton15 said:
That schools are recruiting players with bad upbringings, raised around bad elements, and they bring that culture into football with them. A lot of schools are willing to take crap kids into their football program if it means winning. This is the result. A few sexual assault or rape cases in the news every year.
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How is that "the football culture"?
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
How is that "the football culture"?
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What other sports do you see it happening with at the rate that it happens with football players? Maybe basketball? Even with basketball I don’t think I see nearly as many of these cases. I’m not saying it’s something that is created by football, or by being a football player. I’m saying people are bringing the issue with them onto the football stage. What would you attribute it to? I wish someone would do a study to see what sport dominates in having these kinds of cases come up. I haven’t been able to find any stats on it. But going solely on what I hear about most, I find it’s football that has the most sexual assault, or rape, cases pop up. I think it’s the leniency that coaches and recruiters have for highly talented players that have bad character. A coach from big time school sees a 4-star athlete that they want, sees that they have a aggravated assault charge on their record as a minor, and they ignore it or downplay it.
 

mjfelton15 said:
What other sports do you see it happening with at the rate that it happens with football players? Maybe basketball? Even with basketball I don’t think I see nearly as many of these cases. I’m not saying it’s something that is created by football, or by being a football player. I’m saying people are bringing the issue with them onto the football stage. What would you attribute it to? I wish someone would do a study to see what sport dominates in having these kinds of cases come up. I haven’t been able to find any stats on it. But going solely on what I hear about most, I find it’s football that has the most sexual assault, or rape, cases pop up. I think it’s the leniency that coaches and recruiters have for highly talented players that have bad character. A coach from big time school sees a 4-star athlete that they want, sees that they have a aggravated assault charge on their record as a minor, and they ignore it or downplay it.
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This "rate" and no actual numbers makes no sense...
 





mjfelton15 said:
I’m going off of personal observations of all sports as far as I’ve seen. Not able to comprehend what I’m saying?
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I get it, I think it is dumb to be talking about "rate", talking about culture, and talking about the differences between sports and later...."well I base this off of jack squat".
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I get it, I think it is dumb to be talking about "rate", talking about culture, and talking about the differences between sports and later...."well I base this off of jack squat".
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So hearing/reading stories about college and nfl football players being involved in sexual assault/rape cases way more frequently than I hear/read about it in any other sport is going off of jack squat? I hear about it at a much higher rate in the football realm than other sports each year. I don’t know what you think is off base here
 


FredCoxRocks said:
Just so I'm clear...football players = bad; Hockey players = good. Do I have that right?
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Not what I said. here’s a better way to over simplify what I was getting at, since you’d like to do this.

Many football coaches/recruiters = often overlooking bad character because of high talent.

number of football players involved In sexual assault and/or rape cases > number of players in other sports involved in sexual assault or rape cases
 


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