Ohio State AD Gene Smith says recruits are demanding $5,000 to just visit campus.

[BleedGopher]

Go Gophers!!

 

[GoldenMAV30266]

There’s gonna be an investigation on NIL soon, if kids are demanding money to visit that means they probably got paid to visit somewhere else. I’m pretty sure that’s not how it’s supposed to work .

 

[balds]

There’s gonna be an investigation on NIL soon, if kids are demanding money to visit that means they probably got paid to visit somewhere else. I’m pretty sure that’s not how it’s supposed to work .

Wild West. Where I live HS kids are doing endorsements for local restaurants.

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

I’ll do it for 4900

 

[disco]

Wild West. Where I live HS kids are doing endorsements for local restaurants.

Pretty sure that NIL was found by the courts to be legal regardless of age.

 

[fan of Ray Williams]

In the process right now of trying to convince day care that my grandchild is going to be special. Want some money.

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Pretty sure that NIL was found by the courts to be legal regardless of age.

States/state athletic associations can regulate amateurism/NIL. It’s a hot button issue in Texas.

If anyone remembers, it is the reason Quinn Ewers graduated early. He was offered a lot of money going into his senior year of HS but he wasn’t allowed to play and get paid. So he graduated early and enrolled at OSU.

 

[Gophers7NatTitlesBadgers0]

I’ll do it for 4900

I'd do it for some good campus eats!

 

[Schnauzer]

What a mess. Name image likeness went exactly where you knew it would go. Just flat out pay to play in a Wild West style atmosphere.

 

[DarthGopher]

What a mess. Name image likeness went exactly where you knew it would go. Just flat out pay to play in a Wild West style atmosphere.

24/7/365 free agency with no guardrails. What could possibly go wrong????

 

[saintpauljeff]

Didn’t Paige Bueckers start signing deals as a high school student? Man, she could have made big bucks on her recruitment tour and still gone to UConn in the end.

 

[BilldGopher]

Now we know why the IRS needs more agents...

 

[Schnauzer]

At some point, the talent parade to Coach Prime will take a hit because I would assume Colorado and MN would have similar appetites for pay to play payments and fancy gifts for prospects.

 

[MplsGopher]

Here’s what I think about that:

If you take any NIL deal before you first enroll in an NCAA institution, then you should be completely ineligible to play your first season in college.

 

[WindyCityGopher]

I’ll do it for 4900

Sellout.

 

[MaxyJR1]

Wild West. Where I live HS kids are doing endorsements for local restaurants.

MN High School League has a NIL policy that kids can follow. Basketball stud from Wayzata does a TCO Spot I believe.

 

[MaxyJR1]

I still think this is going to balance out and be good for the Power 4 Conferences. 8 Pac 12 teams are ranked and they are dispersing to the B1G, Big12 and ACC. There will be more parity IMO. We shall see.

 

[MNVCGUY]

Go Gophers!!

Demanding $5,000 to visit isn't NIL.....might be a minor form of extortion but it isn't NIL.

 

[MNVCGUY]

What a mess. Name image likeness went exactly where you knew it would go. Just flat out pay to play in a Wild West style atmosphere.

For the revenue sports....yep, it was easy to see this coming. There was no doubt NIL was going to be twisted and made into something it was never meant to be.

Would be interesting to know how it is working at the non-revenue sports. Hopefully NIL as intended has been good for those athletes who might be in a position to make some money that they would not have been able to in the past.

 

[MplsGopher]

It’s working just fine in non-revenue.

That being: players choose schools without factoring in what kind of NIL they might get, at all.

They choose for all the other reasons, first, as is supposed to be done, then once at the school they go about seeing what they can get. Might be a four figure deal, maybe five. Good for them. Not life changing. But nice to have some money in your pocket. Buy some nice things. Nicer apt. Etc.

That’s what it was supposed to be.


Football and bball are an abomination. Pure pay for play fraud and rule breaking.

NCAA too afraid to do anything unless/until US Congress makes national law.

Power schools and their state legislatures too afraid to do anything, because they’re scared if they don’t or limit it, then their rivals/peers will do it and gain an edge.

Perversion

 

[Jack jones]

Still wondering why Iowa is the ONLY State investigating college athletes gambling and charging athletes thus losing eligibility. Come on NCAA justify your existence.

 

[GopherTheJugular]

At some point, the talent parade to Coach Prime will take a hit because I would assume Colorado and MN would have similar appetites for pay to play payments and fancy gifts for prospects.

Sounds like someone is hoping here. It's ok to not like Coach Prime, but you even admit you are assuming something. For all you or I know, Colorado has boosters willing to pay. Heck, Joel Klatt was defending the roster turnover during the Fox broadcast on one of the games. Maybe he'll pony up lol.

 

[GopherTheJugular]

Here’s what I think about that:

If you take any NIL deal before you first enroll in an NCAA institution, then you should be completely ineligible to play your first season in college.

This is actually a great idea.

 

[GopherTheJugular]

Demanding $5,000 to visit isn't NIL.....might be a minor form of extortion but it isn't NIL.

That's a good point. How could any business etc. claim they got their money's worth by having a high school kid visit a campus for a weekend?

 

[GopherTheJugular]

Still wondering why Iowa is the ONLY State investigating college athletes gambling and charging athletes thus losing eligibility. Come on NCAA justify your existence.

Not sure what that has to do with this thread???

That being said, is there any evidence out there that other athletes having gambled? I'm not saying other athletes haven't, but you kinda need evidence of wrongdoing before you go further....

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

Still wondering why Iowa is the ONLY State investigating college athletes gambling and charging athletes thus losing eligibility. Come on NCAA justify your existence.

Because due to happenstance some cops ended up with a report of stolen phone credentials and bets placed with those credentials.

But when they investigated they found a college athlete had placed those bets, and that's illegal in Iowa (to bet on your own team / something you have involvement in).

Otherwise police / prosecutors don't typically wake up and decide "well I'll investigate <thing> today" without any reason to do so.

 

[Pompous Elitist]

Ookaay…is the school coordinating with boosters or collectives to pay off the recruits? Zelle, Venmo, dead drop? Extortion opportunities arise that could be more lucrative, potentially.

Since these NIL deals are completely opaque and the reported numbers are almost certainly total BS and/or the agreements are full of weasel clauses it seems like, just as in ”real” life, the attorneys will suction the $ writing, reviewing, negotiating, litigating when it blows up. Those star recruits using uncle Rico as representation might be an attractive acquisition target for programs.

 

[Gophers1992]

If someone is willing to pay them that I don't see the problem. It's weird to think about, sure, but nobody's getting harmed here.

 

[DarthGopher]

Here’s what I think about that:

If you take any NIL deal before you first enroll in an NCAA institution, then you should be completely ineligible to play your first season in college.

And if you take NIL money, no "free" transfer. You sit a year and lose it. Even for coaching changes.

I had to sign a document committing to at least 1 year post tuition reimbursement money at my company or I'd have to pay it back. Most companies also require at least 1 year if they pay to relocate you. Doesn't matter if my "manager" leaves. I committed to the company.

 

[disco]

States/state athletic associations can regulate amateurism/NIL. It’s a hot button issue in Texas.

If anyone remembers, it is the reason Quinn Ewers graduated early. He was offered a lot of money going into his senior year of HS but he wasn’t allowed to play and get paid. So he graduated early and enrolled at OSU.

I didn't remember that.
I thought (and I certainly could be wrong) that the court ruling said that players could profit off their name etc. regardless of their age/school year. That it was a free enterprise issue.