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Up next is Michigan vs Minnesota. Michigan is beatable - but not when Battle and Garcia do not score in the first half.
 




I am sorry fellow Holers but Holereader sat through that shit show that night and he is extremely frustrated with this team , it’s coach and the direction of the program. I have tried to find some glimmer of positivity but after tonight holereader is at rock bottom. Henley cannot play at this level - sorry kid but you are in way above your head and why he is getting minutes is beyond holereaders fundamental basketball acumen. Purdue had three freshman play significant minutes tonight and were poised , quick afoot and accurate shooters and passers. What frustrates and confuses holereader after seeing this is we are supposed to wait for our freshman to develop into saviors while Matt Painter already has three freshman playing at BIG level. Can someone talk holereader off the ledge - he is not sure he can sit through any further incompetent performances like this any more
 



holereader said:
I am sorry fellow Holers but Holereader sat through that shit show that night and he is extremely frustrated with this team , it’s coach and the direction of the program. I have tried to find some glimmer of positivity but after tonight holereader is at rock bottom. Henley cannot play at this level - sorry kid but you are in way above your head and why he is getting minutes is beyond holereaders fundamental basketball acumen. Purdue had three freshman play significant minutes tonight and were poised , quick afoot and accurate shooters and passers. What frustrates and confuses holereader after seeing this is we are supposed to wait for our freshman to develop into saviors while Matt Painter already has three freshman playing at BIG level. Can someone talk holereader off the ledge - he is not sure he can sit through any further incompetent performances like this any more
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A) You realize that Purdue is the third ranked team in the nation....right?
B) With Carrington out (as well as Fox and Ihnen)....Henley had to log minutes. That's just how it goes when injuries force things. Henley isn't ready.
 



holereader said:
I am sorry fellow Holers but Holereader sat through that shit show that night and he is extremely frustrated with this team , it’s coach and the direction of the program. I have tried to find some glimmer of positivity but after tonight holereader is at rock bottom. Henley cannot play at this level - sorry kid but you are in way above your head and why he is getting minutes is beyond holereaders fundamental basketball acumen. Purdue had three freshman play significant minutes tonight and were poised , quick afoot and accurate shooters and passers. What frustrates and confuses holereader after seeing this is we are supposed to wait for our freshman to develop into saviors while Matt Painter already has three freshman playing at BIG level. Can someone talk holereader off the ledge - he is not sure he can sit through any further incompetent performances like this any more
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Just need NPOY to make our freshman look good! Or a preseason All-B1G player not to look like the worst player on the team :(
 



Well, even the most positive person has to admit that this game was a beat down. It was the closest thing to watching the JV play the Varsity in high school. This is a game where the coach burns the tape and moves on because there isn't anything good to review or learn from.
Hopefully, however, the kids vow never to let something like this ever happen again.
 



Johnnyboy18 said:
Just need NPOY to make our freshman look good! Or a preseason All-B1G player not to look like the worst player on the team :(
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Gotta think that Battle was in bad shape with his back tonight. He probably should have sat this one out and we live with the others playing.
 

stocker08 said:
We'll just call that 21 point Fighting Roos loss a good loss then.
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What year is the gopher basketball program in? How many years has UST been in D1? How many guys on the U roster are D3 players (a few)? How many are on the UST roster (50%)?
 

holereader said:
I am sorry fellow Holers but Holereader sat through that shit show that night and he is extremely frustrated with this team , it’s coach and the direction of the program. I have tried to find some glimmer of positivity but after tonight holereader is at rock bottom. Henley cannot play at this level - sorry kid but you are in way above your head and why he is getting minutes is beyond holereaders fundamental basketball acumen. Purdue had three freshman play significant minutes tonight and were poised , quick afoot and accurate shooters and passers. What frustrates and confuses holereader after seeing this is we are supposed to wait for our freshman to develop into saviors while Matt Painter already has three freshman playing at BIG level. Can someone talk holereader off the ledge - he is not sure he can sit through any further incompetent performances like this any more
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Please jump. If you wish, perhaps my response can push you over the ledge. 😇
 


On the bright side,

Gophers played such good defense. Purdues offense went from 1st to 4th in Kenpom
 


MennoSota said:
Please jump. If you wish, perhaps my response can push you over the ledge. 😇
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I think you might have a sock drawer you could rearrange - go to the barn some night and actually watch the incompetence of this team -
 

holereader said:
I am sorry fellow Holers but Holereader sat through that shit show that night and he is extremely frustrated with this team , it’s coach and the direction of the program. I have tried to find some glimmer of positivity but after tonight holereader is at rock bottom. Henley cannot play at this level - sorry kid but you are in way above your head and why he is getting minutes is beyond holereaders fundamental basketball acumen. Purdue had three freshman play significant minutes tonight and were poised , quick afoot and accurate shooters and passers. What frustrates and confuses holereader after seeing this is we are supposed to wait for our freshman to develop into saviors while Matt Painter already has three freshman playing at BIG level. Can someone talk holereader off the ledge - he is not sure he can sit through any further incompetent performances like this any more
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Sorry that you think freshman Payne is a flop this season. I like his game overall at this point. I like his much needed size presence. His free throw shooting I feel will get better.

At the other extreme Carrington will be a sniper shooter but is slower coming along. He will pay off. Guards have a lot to learn.

Ola-Joseph is maybe somewhere between the two.

Henley so far is playing the least minutes of the group. He is a guy they are bringing along.
 


stocker08 said:
A) You realize that Purdue is the third ranked team in the nation....right?
B) With Carrington out (as well as Fox and Ihnen)....Henley had to log minutes. That's just how it goes when injuries force things. Henley isn't ready.
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You do realize that everyone we play has freshman vastly outperforming ours.

You do realize this, right?

Our freshman are supposed to be the reason none of this is a problem.
 

holereader said:
I am sorry fellow Holers but Holereader sat through that shit show that night and he is extremely frustrated with this team , it’s coach and the direction of the program. I have tried to find some glimmer of positivity but after tonight holereader is at rock bottom. Henley cannot play at this level - sorry kid but you are in way above your head and why he is getting minutes is beyond holereaders fundamental basketball acumen. Purdue had three freshman play significant minutes tonight and were poised , quick afoot and accurate shooters and passers. What frustrates and confuses holereader after seeing this is we are supposed to wait for our freshman to develop into saviors while Matt Painter already has three freshman playing at BIG level. Can someone talk holereader off the ledge - he is not sure he can sit through any further incompetent performances like this any more
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You are accurate. Our average at best freshmen may progress, they also may not. But other elite programs have freshmen who are playing big minutes (who are not 1 and done freshmen), who show the monumental gap between what we have and what other programs have. Purdue is a perfect example: Loyer and Smith will improve and be with Purdue for the next 4 years (unless they transfer - not NBA players). Do we really believe our guys will catch up… that’s crazy thinking.

On the telecast the announcers were discussing how Purdue rarely gets top recruits, but Coach Painter gets guys that fit the Purdue vision and style of play. And then the Purdue brain trust grows the shit out of those players over the next few years. What the hell is the Gophers style of play and how do our recruits fit it?
 


stocker08 said:
We'll just call that 21 point Fighting Roos loss a good loss then.
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Any win in year 2 is good. Any loss is expected. Half their roster is D3, they have 2 D1 transfer who rarely play (most likely because they couldn’t play at their previous schools * Milwaukee and liberty) and 5 recruits who were for D1 (four of which are freshmen.

Any wins at that program are stunning. And losses there are actually justified as winning as they actually have to play and rely on their freshmen (unlike gophers). Plus, they are playing for four 2025 when they can go to NCAA tourney… which they may make sooner than the gophers
 

kg21 said:
Henley looks brutal

Carrington was blah

And Payne concerns me because he has no shot, and is probably about as big and physical as he will get. Is he going to get a ton better.

Everything is horrible.
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Carrington didn't miss a shot all night. Had zero turnovers.
 

Wet_Blanket_Guy said:
You are accurate. Our average at best freshmen may progress, they also may not. But other elite programs have freshmen who are playing big minutes (who are not 1 and done freshmen), who show the monumental gap between what we have and what other programs have. Purdue is a perfect example: Loyer and Smith will improve and be with Purdue for the next 4 years (unless they transfer - not NBA players). Do we really believe our guys will catch up… that’s crazy thinking.

On the telecast the announcers were discussing how Purdue rarely gets top recruits, but Coach Painter gets guys that fit the Purdue vision and style of play. And then the Purdue brain trust grows the shit out of those players over the next few years. What the hell is the Gophers style of play and how do our recruits fit it?
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Payne has a chance to develop into a really good B1G player. He has the size and athleticism to overcome limited offensive skill.

The other frosh? It's a stretch to see them ever becoming above average B1G level players. I'm in the minority but IMO Henley has the most room to grow.

Can't see JOJ ever being an asset.
 



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