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Some guy said:
No idea why fewer people would be interested in the game following the Penn state thrashing. Almost like interest in the team is waning the more they lose?
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Because all the haters have nothing to hate
 

ecoperson said:
I'm only wondering why this thread of the thrashing of N'western continues to have less posts than the thrashing by Penn State? Where are all of the accolades? Shouldn't it be a wash? :unsure:
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I suspect you already know this, but --

the negative voices always seem to be the loudest on almost any issue. Good news gets mentioned, but bad news gets shouted to the heavens.

or, to put it another way, it's more fun to complain than it is to praise. Look at the on-line comments after any story in the Strib - the vast majority are negative.

and, with Gopher basketball, there is an added element. There are people who were upset when Johnson was hired as HC because they wanted a big name, or because they thought Johnson wasn't qualified. Some of those people have spent the entire season complaining and criticizing as a way of saying, "see, I was right - Johnson was the wrong choice." If the Gophers fail, in their eyes, it proves their point.

and then, some people are just trolls.
 

Some guy said:
No idea why fewer people would be interested in the game following the Penn state thrashing. Almost like interest in the team is waning the more they lose?
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It has been a pattern over the entire year. Negative posters crawl out of the woodwork after a loss but are conspicuously absent following a win. Sadly many of the negative posters have nothing constructive to say or no solutions to consider. Whining that this or that player is not a B1G quality player in the middle of the season offers nothing as the roster has been set for several months.

I always ask my employees to always bring a solution to the table rather than just bringing in their problems. I am not here to fix their problems. I am here to help solve them as part of the team. The belly-aching here about this player or that player gets old because there are no options to bring in players midseason in college sports.
 

ecoperson said:
It has been a pattern over the entire year. Negative posters crawl out of the woodwork after a loss but are conspicuously absent following a win. Sadly many of the negative posters have nothing constructive to say or no solutions to consider. Whining that this or that player is not a B1G quality player in the middle of the season offers nothing as the roster has been set for several months.

I always ask my employees to always bring a solution to the table rather than just bringing in their problems. I am not here to fix their problems. I am here to help solve them as part of the team. The belly-aching here about this player or that player gets old because there are no options to bring in players midseason in college sports.
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I get where you are coming from and share your frustrations...but this concept is not unique to this forum by any stretch of the imagination.

People love to complain and argue, and the internet is the perfect place for that because you can essentially say whatever you want. There are absolutely posters on this and any forum who only show up when they have something negative to say because they get their enjoyment out of pissing people off and complaining. I don't get it but there are lots of people wired that way. Just one of those things that comes along with the good ole world wide web.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
I suspect you already know this, but --

the negative voices always seem to be the loudest on almost any issue. Good news gets mentioned, but bad news gets shouted to the heavens.

or, to put it another way, it's more fun to complain than it is to praise. Look at the on-line comments after any story in the Strib - the vast majority are negative.

and, with Gopher basketball, there is an added element. There are people who were upset when Johnson was hired as HC because they wanted a big name, or because they thought Johnson wasn't qualified. Some of those people have spent the entire season complaining and criticizing as a way of saying, "see, I was right - Johnson was the wrong choice." If the Gophers fail, in their eyes, it proves their point.

and then, some people are just trolls.
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I know this of course... that's why I used my little sarcastic emoji! Social media including internet discussion boards offers people a unique opportunity to spout off without consequence. People love the anonymity of the digital communication world.

I actually don't think that this board has many trolls. In fact, I can think of only one who adds little one sentence posts about Wisconsin players.

I never type anything here that I wouldn't say directly to either the poster I am responding to or to the coach or player being discussed in the discussion.

I highly doubt that most of these negative posters would have the eggs to talk to Coach Johnson or Eric Curry like they write about them on this board.
 




ecoperson said:
It has been a pattern over the entire year. Negative posters crawl out of the woodwork after a loss but are conspicuously absent following a win. Sadly many of the negative posters have nothing constructive to say or no solutions to consider. Whining that this or that player is not a B1G quality player in the middle of the season offers nothing as the roster has been set for several months.

I always ask my employees to always bring a solution to the table rather than just bringing in their problems. I am not here to fix their problems. I am here to help solve them as part of the team. The belly-aching here about this player or that player gets old because there are no options to bring in players midseason in college sports.
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Well sorry I don’t have a solution to the current roster being bad at big ten basketball. My bad
 

ecoperson said:
It has been a pattern over the entire year. Negative posters crawl out of the woodwork after a loss but are conspicuously absent following a win.
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Well, duh. Why would there be a lot of negativity after a win? Maybe the majority of posters are both negative and positive and they are mostly positive after wins.

Try to keep this old joke in mind:

A couple had a boy named Timmy. Timmy never said a word for the first seven years of his life. One morning after taking a big bite of food from his plate and spitting it out he screamed: "Yuck, this is terrible!"

His astonished father cried: "Timmy, you can talk! Why have you never said anything before?"

Timmy answered: "Everything was all right up to now."
 



ecoperson said:
It has been a pattern over the entire year. Negative posters crawl out of the woodwork after a loss but are conspicuously absent following a win. Sadly many of the negative posters have nothing constructive to say or no solutions to consider. Whining that this or that player is not a B1G quality player in the middle of the season offers nothing as the roster has been set for several months.

I always ask my employees to always bring a solution to the table rather than just bringing in their problems. I am not here to fix their problems. I am here to help solve them as part of the team. The belly-aching here about this player or that player gets old because there are no options to bring in players midseason in college sports.
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You’re not our supervisor.

And everyone on here is a spectator, so we spectate.
 







cjbfbp said:
Well, duh. Why would there be a lot of negativity after a win? Maybe the majority of posters are both negative and positive and they are mostly positive after wins.

Try to keep this old joke in mind:

A couple had a boy named Timmy. Timmy never said a word for the first seven years of his life. One morning after taking a big bite of food from his plate and spitting it out he screamed: "Yuck, this is terrible!"

His astonished father cried: "Timmy, you can talk! Why have you never said anything before?"

Timmy answered: "Everything was all right up to now."
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My point is that the number of total comments in a thread is MUCH higher in a loss versus a win. My point is that I would expect there to be equal number of comments following a win. Where are all of the posts about how happy people are about the fantastic shooting by Loewe and rebounding in this thread.

You KNOW that the majority of posters are not both negative and positive. There are a small handful that roll that way. The reason for the disparity in threads for a win compared to a loss is that the large number of negative posters refuse to acknowledge the win. The negative posters pepper the game thread both during and after the game with a bunch of whining about the roster and coaching. The same crap game after game... it's like watching a washed up comic using the same tired joke year gig after gig.
 

bc2211 said:
Lighten up man.
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Ironic because that is exactly what I have been preaching. People need to take a step back from the ledge after a loss and try to see that their complaints CANNOT be addressed this year.
 

ecoperson said:
Ironic because that is exactly what I have been preaching. People need to take a step back from the ledge after a loss and try to see that their complaints CANNOT be addressed this year.
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I understand where your coming from and have seen and quietly appreciated some of the reasonable exchanges that you’ve had in this (or maybe other?) thread recently. Ultimately, though, I don’t think anyone on a message board should expect others to share positivity. The internet sucks, most use it to complain. cjb’s parable is a good one. If the gophers win, I happily say goodnight to my wife. If they lose, I vent what I saw on gopherhole so I can happily say goodnight to my wife. In between games, I’ll share my current observations on the past, present, and future. In your response to cjb, you say in regards to the gopher hole, “The same crap game after game... it's like watching a washed up comic using the same tired joke year gig after gig.” Unfortunately the recent past, present, and near term future of the gophers program happens to mimic your opinion of the board. A lot of us share this opinion.
 

Some guy said:
Well sorry I don’t have a solution to the current roster being bad at big ten basketball. My bad
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So why talk about the roster if it is bad and can't be changed mid season? We all know that we need to recruit better players to avoid a repeat of this year. Why do we need to rehash it again and again and again?

Many have pointed out to me that negative comments are about blowing off steam. This grates on me as much as the loss itself so I am just blowing off MY steam by pointing it out.

We all know exactly what we hope to see in the roster next year... more depth, a true point, some bigs, more athleticism to improve the defense, etc. I am looking forward to this summer to see what we add in the portal to complement the high school talent already signed or committed.

Everyone has every right to be negative, whine, and complain. I hope that I have a similar right to point out the few minor positives that I can find in a loss to balance this out. My comments typically attempt to bring something constructive to the conversation by offering a different perspective. I am fully aware that neither the negative comments nor my comments about them today adds much value. I will stick to pointing out the positives.
 

bc2211 said:
I understand where your coming from and have seen and quietly appreciated some of the reasonable exchanges that you’ve had in this (or maybe other?) thread recently. Ultimately, though, I don’t think anyone on a message board should expect others to share positivity. The internet sucks, most use it to complain. cjb’s parable is a good one. If the gophers win, I happily say goodnight to my wife. If they lose, I vent what I saw on gopherhole so I can happily say goodnight to my wife. In between games, I’ll share my current observations on the past, present, and future. In your response to cjb, you say in regards to the gopher hole, “The same crap game after game... it's like watching a washed up comic using the same tired joke year gig after gig.” Unfortunately the recent past, present, and near term future of the gophers program happens to mimic your opinion of the board. A lot of us share this opinion.
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I appreciate your well reasoned response. I just don't think that this year can be used for comparative purposes since it is so out of the norm. I see little correlation to the past because the only common denominators from last year is a undersized center who came out of retirement and an injured bench player.

If any of the items that have caused concern happen next year, I will be much more willing to find a pattern. If Johnson has a full roster of players that he had a fair shake at and he doesn't use the bench, I will also complain that he is running the team down. If Johnson recruits a bunch of senior transfers and never plays the frosh, I will also get frustrated by not developing the future. If Johnson pulls kids from the portal that can't walk and chew gum at the same time, I will be the first to question his choices.

I saw the writing on the wall well before the season started and have just written this season off as a loss. I do that with stocks all of the time. Sometime you need to know when to fold 'em. Unfortunately, we have to wait several more months before we can start to see what a typical Johnson team might look like.
 

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