***OFFICIAL BETHUNE-COOKMAN SEASON OPENING IN-GAME THREAD!!!***

[Gopher_In_NYC]

I’m not. I want you to right. I just don’t think you are. Will this be a first?

With your moniker, you should NEVER EVER be wrong

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

No, for some people here, it is not.

There are multiple posters on this board who want this team to fail. They want the team to fail because they want Ben Johnson gone yesterday and they care far more about the affirmation of their beliefs that the coach is a total loser than they care about the success of this Gopher team.

They’d rather be right than happy; odd philosophy to living one’s life

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

GWG cherry picking? Oh, please, say it isn't so.

Well done!

He’d give George Washington a run for his

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

He’d give George Washington a run for his

I picked two teams that were ranked 6 spots apart last season and topos/twisted rock melon want to ignore that team, and pick other teams that were ranked 30-60 spots higher that we beat by less.

Yet I'm the one cherry picking?

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

I picked two teams that were ranked 6 spots apart last season and topos/twisted rock melon want to ignore that team, and pick other teams that were ranked 30-60 spots higher that we beat by less.

Yet I'm the one cherry picking?

I live in NYC, I like to bust a guy’s

 

[Holy Man]

With your moniker, you should NEVER EVER be wrong

I'm glad you understand. Not many do.

 

[stocker08]

I've never understood why people bet their hard earned money on things that they have ZERO control over. I know that these days, I'm in the extreme minority, but I'm only risking my money on stuff that I can at least have some type of slight control over.

You have control over what bets you make. It isn't like the lottery or a slot machine where everything is up to chance.

 

[stocker08]

There are more than one. I won't name names but there are at least three or four and possibly more.

There are a number of posters who dislike or downright hated the hire and have campaigned against Johnson ever since. At least one just in the past few pages.

 

[stocker08]

It's definitely still debatable. It has been one game and we beat one of the worst teams in the country by 20.

The only relevant comparison to last year right now is when we played St. Francis Brooklyn who was ranked similarily on Ken Pom. We won that game by 18, without Battle or Carrington. Samuels played 29 minutes, Ramberg 28, and TT 19.

So with 'better players' this season we beat a similarly ranked opponent by one more basket. And we weren't outplayed in the 2nd half of last seasons game either, like we were last night. St Thomas went out and hammered that same team by 36 the next game.

There's no comparison to be made with a sample size this small. Also.....Ken Pom.....!? It's been one game. lol.

 

[MissouriGopher]

The average lead for the gophers in this game was 14.5, the highest in the Ben Johnson era

 

[DarthGopher]

Are we better or worse? Let's wait and see what Christie brings to the mix.
Keep in mind...we have struggled with D3 Macalester and #350 Bethune Cookman.

Corn Flakes, here comes the piss.....

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

There's no comparison to be made with a sample size this small. Also.....Ken Pom.....!? It's been one game. lol.

That's pretty much my point for this years team and people already convinced this team is better than last years.

I was only using KenPom as a comparison for last years teams. If we blow out UTSA and are competitive with Mizzou, then I'll believe this years team is improved.

 

[GopherOhana]

just noting the hoosiers are ina. tight one with Florida Golf Course tonight

 

[stocker08]

That's pretty much my point for this years team and people already convinced this team is better than last years.

I was only using KenPom as a comparison for last years teams. If we blow out UTSA and are competitive with Mizzou, then I'll believe this years team is improved.

And that bums you out as a Ben Johnson super hater.....we know. You'll have plenty of time to shit on everything.....but maybe give it a rest for now. They did look decent last night.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

And that bums you out as a Ben Johnson super hater.....we know. You'll have plenty of time to shit on everything.....but maybe give it a rest for now. They did look decent last night.

Winning will never bum me out. I was just responding to a post that I thought was ridiculous. I didn't mention Ben's name once so maybe you should give it a rest.

 

[stocker08]

Winning will never bum me out. I was just responding to a post that I thought was ridiculous. I didn't mention Ben's name once so maybe you should give it a rest.

Based on your posts on the bball board over the past few years.....your anger over the win doesn't surprise me at all. Maybe you'll be more comfortable in your 'Ben Johnson is a Disaster' thread.

Ben Johnson is a Disaster

The state of the men's and woman's BB programs is in large part due to Coyle and his choice of coaches. He fixed one hiring error (we think). Hopefully he cares enough to fix the other.

gopherhole.com

 

[golfing18now]

And that bums you out as a Ben Johnson super hater.....we know. You'll have plenty of time to shit on everything.....but maybe give it a rest for now. They did look decent last night.

In fairness to GWG, I responded to the same post. To suggest the floor and ceiling have been raised and "it's not even debatable" is a little bit of a stretch. Would you disagree? It's way too early at this point to draw any firm determinations. Just like it was when they lost by 40 to Colorado State in the scrimmage.

There were a number of posters last year that thought that team could have been a fringe bubble team. If that was the ceiling for last year, what ceiling do we see this year? It's just too early to know. You might dislike the messenger, but his point isn't unfair in this case.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

Based on your posts on the bball board over the past few years.....your anger over the win doesn't surprise me at all. Maybe you'll be more comfortable in your 'Ben Johnson is a Disaster' thread.

Ben Johnson is a Disaster

The state of the men's and woman's BB programs is in large part due to Coyle and his choice of coaches. He fixed one hiring error (we think). Hopefully he cares enough to fix the other.

gopherhole.com

Nah the time will come for that thread. I'm not angry over a win at all, nor have I ever said that. I just disagreed with what a poster said and I am excited for the game on Friday.

 

[stocker08]

In fairness to GWG, I responded to the same post. To suggest the floor and ceiling have been raised and "it's not even debatable" is a little bit of a stretch. Would you disagree? It's way too early at this point to draw any firm determinations. Just like it was when they lost by 40 to Colorado State in the scrimmage.

There were a number of posters last year that thought that team could have been a fringe bubble team. If that was the ceiling for last year, what ceiling do we see this year? It's just too early to know. You might dislike the messenger, but his point isn't unfair in this case.

It's absolutely debatable. Not nearly enough of a sample size. Doesn't change the fact that some posters have such a vendetta against Coach Johnson....that the only thing that makes them happy is a Gopher loss. Some people just love to bitch, whine, and moan.

 

[GopherWeatherGuy]

It's absolutely debatable. Not nearly enough of a sample size. Doesn't change the fact that some posters have such a vendetta against Coach Johnson....that the only thing that makes them happy is a Gopher loss. Some people just love to bitch, whine, and moan.

So then you agree with me. What you said is debatable is the only thing I was debating, so I'm not sure why you're coming after me. I didn't bitch, whine, or moan once about the win last night.

 

[stocker08]

So then you agree with me. What you said is debatable is the only thing I was debating, so I'm not sure why you're coming after me. I didn't bitch, whine, or moan once about the win last night.

I think the team looks improved. Way better than last year. Sample size is way too small. You went wet blanket immediately....which is exactly what I would expect out of someone who has spent the past year pissing, moaning, and hating.

 

[Day1Fan]

"I can already tell this is going to be a really good matchup since both teams already made points" .. girl ...

The girl did not make the cut…. I would have loved to hear these comments first hand?!?!?

 

[gopherbadgerman]

I’d rather win. MSU will likely have a lot more good nights than the U, tonight isn’t one of them.

Agree. Win is always the answer IMO. I’d rather beat the worst team by one than lose to the best team by one

 

[Chico Gopher]

You have control over what bets you make. It isn't like the lottery or a slot machine where everything is up to chance.

Not to be a jerk, but I'm curious as to what affect you can have on a random game that you've bet money on. In what way will you be able to actually affect the outcome of any particular moment of a game from your seat on the couch. For example, the Gophers couldn't make a 3 in the second half the other night. Like to know in what way, If I'd bet money on the game or the prop bet of made 3's, that I could have any control over that. That's what I'm getting at. Any bet I make involving something that I am not actively involved in seems like throwing money down the toilet to me.

 

[Chico Gopher]

With gambling, you either have the bug or you don’t. You’re correct. There is not a logical reason to gamble so if you don’t have the bug, I’m sure gambling just feels idiotic.

It reminds me of a video where neil degrasse Tyson was confidently making an incorrect argument. He was arguing that if people really understood the odds, they wouldn’t dump their money at casinos. He couldn’t me more wrong. Vegas makes their money off people who gamble a ton and know the odds. A high stakes black Jack table is full of people who get it, but gamble anyway. It’s a compulsion, not a logical attempt to make money,

So to answer your question, we like to gamble because it’s fun. The fact that we have no control - like flipping a card or rolling dice - is part of what makes it fun.

Well, I guess that sort-of explains it-- I guess---sort of.

 

[bc2211]

One of my favorite moments of hypocrisy is when people rant and rave about people they think are pissing and moaning. You aren’t above pissing and moaning, you just disagree on the subject.

But, this is the gopherhole.

 

[Unregistered User]

I just hope this conversation stays in this thread instead of poisoning each In-Game Thread for the rest of the season.

 

[stocker08]

Not to be a jerk, but I'm curious as to what affect you can have on a random game that you've bet money on. In what way will you be able to actually affect the outcome of any particular moment of a game from your seat on the couch. For example, the Gophers couldn't make a 3 in the second half the other night. Like to know in what way, If I'd bet money on the game or the prop bet of made 3's, that I could have any control over that. That's what I'm getting at. Any bet I make involving something that I am not actively involved in seems like throwing money down the toilet to me.

Nah, I get what you're saying. You have no control over the game....I understand that. What I am saying is that the actual bet is entirely in your control. You get to pick what side you are on.....so it's not entirely random like the lottery. Watch enough sports.....and you probably do better than someone who watches none. So I'd definitely say there's a skill aspect to sports betting.

 

[Mulligan]

I just hope this conversation stays in this thread instead of poisoning each In-Game Thread for the rest of the season.

You sound like somebody who's new around here (which I know you're not)

 

[GopherTheJugular]

Not to be a jerk, but I'm curious as to what affect you can have on a random game that you've bet money on. In what way will you be able to actually affect the outcome of any particular moment of a game from your seat on the couch. For example, the Gophers couldn't make a 3 in the second half the other night. Like to know in what way, If I'd bet money on the game or the prop bet of made 3's, that I could have any control over that. That's what I'm getting at. Any bet I make involving something that I am not actively involved in seems like throwing money down the toilet to me.

Do you have a retirement account, or some kind of trading account? If so, how do you feel about your money in stock market? You can't affect the price of any individual stock (unless you own a major number of shares, which only a handful of people on this planet do) so how do you deal with that risk?

Granted, it's not at the same level, as a bet is all or nothing, whereas you can lose in the market for a while and then come back. But it's just an honest question I have. For me, I look at the two similar. I have trading accounts, and I have a gambling account. I feel if I do my research in both areas, both can be profitable. If I just randomly guess, I'll lose my money.