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Limegrover's comments on the OL needing lots of work with pass blocking has me concerned. We know we have depth, size & experience on the OL. We know our emphasis will be on running with a very good group of RB's. Our success will largely depend on our ability to keep Mitch healthy and give him adequate time to throw 20-30% of the time.

Limegrover's comments raise the issue of whether or not we can do so. Also, and this question doesn't start with me, why exactly is our OC serving as the O line coach? I assume this is pretty unusual. Either the OC duties or line coach duties are suffering or is the OC job just a part time thing?
 

ncgo4 said:
Limegrover's comments raise the issue of whether or not we can do so. Also, and this question doesn't start with me, why exactly is our OC serving as the O line coach? I assume this is pretty unusual. Either the OC duties or line coach duties are suffering or is the OC job just a part time thing?
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I appreciate your question and I don't really have an answer other than that Limegrover's passion has always been for the offensive linemen positions. At practices he really enjoys working directly with them.
 

Listen to Limegrover closely some of the problem is with the O-line but a lot of it has to do with T. Cockran and M. Amaefula. Yes the O-line needs to improve especially against the better D-lines but at the same time he's also complementing the improvement by our Defensive Ends. I'm sure that the coaching assignments are the way Coach Kill wants. Limegrover is considered by many to be a good O-line coach and by filling that position it frees up a coaching slot elsewhere. There is a limit to the number of coaches on a team.
 

nsmike said:
Listen to Limegrover closely some of the problem is with the O-line but a lot of it has to do with T. Cockran and M. Amaefula. Yes the O-line needs to improve especially against the better D-lines but at the same time he's also complementing the improvement by our Defensive Ends. I'm sure that the coaching assignments are the way Coach Kill wants. Limegrover is considered by many to be a good O-line coach and by filling that position it frees up a coaching slot elsewhere. There is a limit to the number of coaches on a team.
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If our O-line can't handle Amaefula, we're in for a long season.
 

ncgo4 said:
Limegrover's comments on the OL needing lots of work with pass blocking has me concerned. We know we have depth, size & experience on the OL. We know our emphasis will be on running with a very good group of RB's. Our success will largely depend on our ability to keep Mitch healthy and give him adequate time to throw 20-30% of the time.

Limegrover's comments raise the issue of whether or not we can do so. Also, and this question doesn't start with me, why exactly is our OC serving as the O line coach? I assume this is pretty unusual. Either the OC duties or line coach duties are suffering or is the OC job just a part time thing?
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A lot of coordinators coach positions as well. Plus it's a week into camp, no coach is going to say he is completely happy with every aspect of his teams performance.
 



Costa Rican Gopher said:
If our O-line can't handle Amaefula, we're in for a long season.
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The kid got thrown into the fire as a true freshman, undersized at that. I suspect he's going to have a break out year and do a better job pass rushing than he has in the past. He's a little bigger, and has been threw the wars quite a bit and I think the light bulb comes on and he plays with a great deal of urgency.
 

Alex Keith was a better pass rusher than Amaefula last year IMO. I’m not too worried about pass protection though as we should be able to effectively execute the play action pass with how often and effective we will run the ball and when you run the ball as much as we do I can handle a guy like Amaefula getting a sack as long as we knock him on his ass in the run game twice as often.
 

Costa Rican Gopher said:
If our O-line can't handle Amaefula, we're in for a long season.
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I trust the coaches to know when the difference between a good performance on part of the defense and poor performance on the part of the offense. If Amaefula is beating our more experienced O-linemen then he's better!
 



Pass protection will continue to be a work in progress. It also depends on the WR's and QB's doing a better job running routes and decision making. As long as we pass when we want to pass we should be ok. We are not set up to pass out of necessity.
 

Pass protection is just more of your offensive line geling and getting into a rhythm with their schemes and zones. Plus a lot of the guys have moved around a bit so it makes sense that its not mid season form. I fully expect these guys to come together by the end of august. Patience chicken little, the sky is not falling.
 

t-docious said:
Pass protection is just more of your offensive line geling and getting into a rhythm with their schemes and zones. Plus a lot of the guys have moved around a bit so it makes sense that its not mid season form. I fully expect these guys to come together by the end of august. Patience chicken little, the sky is not falling.
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Whoa, now. Are you saying that our GH experts are out of line by expecting perfection starting with play one in game one, until and through the entire season???
 

nsmike said:
I trust the coaches to know when the difference between a good performance on part of the defense and poor performance on the part of the offense. If Amaefula is beating our more experienced O-linemen then he's better!
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Yeah yeah. Regardless - can we all agree there are better DEs in the B1G than Amaefula? If so, then this is still troubling. However, I suspect some now think we have the best DE combo in the country.
 



Spoofin said:
Yeah yeah. Regardless - can we all agree there are better DEs in the B1G than Amaefula? If so, then this is still troubling. However, I suspect some now think we have the best DE combo in the country.
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Not really defense is usally ahead of the offense early in camp. The fact that MA is mentioned in the same sentence as TC is encouraging. The defense stepping its game up will force the offense to also step up. The competition will make both units better.
 

Spoofin said:
Yeah yeah. Regardless - can we all agree there are better DEs in the B1G than Amaefula? If so, then this is still troubling. However, I suspect some now think we have the best DE combo in the country.
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Doc - I can't believe how the experts on this site can read a comment and then run with until they work themselves up into a lather. Relax people!:banghead:
 

Killjoy said:
Doc - I can't believe how the experts on this site can read a comment and then run with until they work themselves up into a lather. Relax people! :banghead:
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Amen, brotha!
 

Killjoy said:
Doc - I can't believe how the experts on this site can read a comment and then run with until they work themselves up into a lather. Relax people!:banghead:
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I'm in a lather? Our OC said we are struggling at something we struggled at last year. Then, when I say that is (and I quote) 'troubling' (gasp), you and Doc come after the 'experts'. How silly. So tell me... What speculation and discussion isn't off limits? How would TDG have handled this Killjoy? You do know it is different over there, right?
 

nsmike said:
Not really defense is usally ahead of the offense early in camp. The fact that MA is mentioned in the same sentence as TC is encouraging. The defense stepping its game up will force the offense to also step up. The competition will make both units better.
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Amen!
 

Spoofin said:
I'm in a lather? Our OC said we are struggling at something we struggled at last year. Then, when I say that is (and I quote) 'troubling' (gasp), you and Doc come after the 'experts'. How silly. So tell me... What speculation and discussion isn't off limits? How would TDG have handled this Killjoy? You do know it is different over there, right?
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It is the over reaction that people have to a normal occurrence during fall camp, i.e. working on getting better and getting ready for the football season. One way the coaches do that is through communication with their players. This communication may be part sermon, part mind game, and part kick in the butt, They use whatever attention getting techniques they feel will work best. Unfortunately, here at the GopherHole people often ends then up reacting like "Chicken Little". A more rational explanation might be the following quote by nsmike.

Originally posted by nsmike.

Not really defense is usually ahead of the offense early in camp. The fact that MA is mentioned in the same sentence as TC is encouraging. The defense stepping its game up will force the offense to also step up. The competition will make both units better.
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I'm guessing our OL has some work to do on run blocking. Just a hunch.
 

The OL play is where everything starts and ends. Even a one second improvement in pass protection can be huge for Leidner. Of course, it goes without saying the run blocking has to be done to perfection.
 

Indi1006 said:
The kid got thrown into the fire as a true freshman, undersized at that. I suspect he's going to have a break out year and do a better job pass rushing than he has in the past. He's a little bigger, and has been threw the wars quite a bit and I think the light bulb comes on and he plays with a great deal of urgency.
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Metaphor alert
 



Why is it called a metaphore? Why not call it a metaphive, or a metathree?
 


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