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Considering going down this route and was wondering if anyone had any feedback?
 

All I know is that when one of those commercials with Frank Thomas comes on TV, I can't hit the channel changer fast enough.

Given my personal health situation, I can't use any kind of supplement. (heart issues)

My opinion is that you are still better off just eating a healthy diet and following a sensible exercise routine for your age and situation.

A lot of people think they're eating OK, but we all have a tendency to ignore or not count all of the snacks and junk that we eat.

if there really was a pill that made you lose weight and get in better shape all by itself, it would be the most popular product in the world.

again, my personal opinion is that a lot of this stuff is marketed at people looking for short cuts.
 

I don't know anyone who has taken any kind of T "booster" supplement.

I tend to think of most supplements as "snake oil". They're unregulated. They don't need to have rigorous scientific proof to back-up their marketing claims.
 




I don't know much about these products, but if there are any clinical peer-reviewed studies, you can find them online. If there are none, then buyer beware. One thing to be aware of are the known side effects of unnatural boosting of testosterone, including heart problems.
 

Bad Gopher said:
One thing to be aware of are the known side effects of unnatural boosting of testosterone, including heart problems.
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Not sure if you're referring to this, but directly using things like testosterone or HGH, etc., is probably even worse than taking some "supplement" that claims to "naturally increase your testosterone".

The latter, probably just doesn't work, but guessing won't cause you harm in of itself. (other than to your wallet) The former though, might be what you mention. Be careful!
 


Gopher_In_NYC said:
Considering going down this route and was wondering if anyone had any feedback?
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If you want to lose weight I think fasting is the best way. It works and its not as hard as it seems, I have done 10 days with nothing but water and coffee. Can't give up coffee.
 



Wally said:
If you want to lose weight I think fasting is the best way. It works and its not as hard as it seems, I have done 10 days with nothing but water and coffee. Can't give up coffee.
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Ten days? Wow - impressive. Thanks

How much have you lost?

Have you ever tried intermittent fasting?
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Ten days? Wow - impressive. Thanks

How much have you lost?

Have you ever tried intermittent fasting?
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I have done intermittent and multiple extended fasts. I got lazy last spring in lockdown and haven't really been doing much, I usually try somewhat to limit carbs.

So I basically started fasting due to gut issues but then also for weight loss. Its great mentally to.

I was probably about 200 lbs when I started fasting in various forms. Got down to 170. I was about 160 in high school and my ideal weight would be about 165. Right now after Covid lazy I am about 185.🥴

If you want to fast it helps a ton to cut out all carbs for a day or ideally two before hand. With practice fasting becomes easier. Ten days was a bit wild, I had the craziest food dreams you can imagine. But after about three days your hunger really goes down to sort of a baseline annoyance. I have done multiple 3-5 day fasts.
 

Wally said:
If you want to lose weight I think fasting is the best way. It works and its not as hard as it seems, I have done 10 days with nothing but water and coffee. Can't give up coffee.
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Even cutting one meal out of the day can make a huge difference. Drinking water instead of sugary drinks is an easy switch that can shed pounds. Then of course....exercise.
 

stocker08 said:
Even cutting one meal out of the day can make a huge difference. Drinking water instead of sugary drinks is an easy switch that can shed pounds. Then of course....exercise.
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I quit sweet drinks years ago. Booze is the only issue now, I think I need to quit that to get a beach body for this summer.
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Wally said:
I quit sweet drinks years ago. Booze is the only issue now, I think I need to quit that to get a beach body for this summer.
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Rarely drink anymore either.
 

Do you guys really fast? I haven't heard of anyone actually fasting since my HS wrestling days.

Totally agree on the sugary drinks. I used to have a glass of orange juice every morning. Even just cutting that improved my intestinal health/comfort.
 


Too lazy to start another thread so this one had some related posts.

Has anyone done much tinkering with fasting? I know intermittent fasting was gaining some steam a number of years ago (like with these posts) but I'm talking more about duration fasting.

I've done a handful of 36-hour fasts in the last 4-5 months and I like the reset. It's remarkably easy and you really find out just how much you eat out of habit or boredom (or at least I have). And I feel so much better during and after a fast. The things I've read about how your body handles it, what happens at certain points like 12 hours this happens, after 18 hours this starts to happen, etc. Cell regeneration or recycling, mental clarity, of course fat burning, et al

For a 36-hour, I basically have dinner one night around 5:30-6p or so, don't eat the following day, and then sometime the following mid-morning I start to come off it. It often ends up being 38-40 hours. I am always surprised at how NOT hungry I am during that day. There might be a 15-30 min time once or twice, late morning, maybe mid-afternoon, but once you get to later afternoon, you just have to get to bedtime. I have not once been STARVING at any point during a 36-hour fast.

I've been wanting to do a 72-hour for several months but just haven't worked it into my schedule. Too many hunting trips, holidays, sporting events, etc. I'm targeting early next week for it now, we'll see if I can finally make it happen.
 


Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
Too lazy to start another thread so this one had some related posts.

Has anyone done much tinkering with fasting? I know intermittent fasting was gaining some steam a number of years ago (like with these posts) but I'm talking more about duration fasting.

I've done a handful of 36-hour fasts in the last 4-5 months and I like the reset. It's remarkably easy and you really find out just how much you eat out of habit or boredom (or at least I have). And I feel so much better during and after a fast. The things I've read about how your body handles it, what happens at certain points like 12 hours this happens, after 18 hours this starts to happen, etc. Cell regeneration or recycling, mental clarity, of course fat burning, et al

For a 36-hour, I basically have dinner one night around 5:30-6p or so, don't eat the following day, and then sometime the following mid-morning I start to come off it. It often ends up being 38-40 hours. I am always surprised at how NOT hungry I am during that day. There might be a 15-30 min time once or twice, late morning, maybe mid-afternoon, but once you get to later afternoon, you just have to get to bedtime. I have not once been STARVING at any point during a 36-hour fast.

I've been wanting to do a 72-hour for several months but just haven't worked it into my schedule. Too many hunting trips, holidays, sporting events, etc. I'm targeting early next week for it now, we'll see if I can finally make it happen.
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Good for you, not sure I could do it. I'm assuming this means only drinking water or do you still drink other stuff?
 

GophersInIowa said:
Good for you, not sure I could do it. I'm assuming this means only drinking water or do you still drink other stuff?
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I'm a weak bastard. I still drink some diet soda, and even some of the sugarless energy drinks I use. But I have to admit, I really feel good during and after the fast. I would guess maybe I'm not getting EVERY benefit of the fast by drinking what I do, but I have never drank coffee in my life, nor am I a Tea person. I guess those are for the most part okay. I've even seen some articles that say some diet soda isn't the end of the world.

Again, at least for ME, it really really tells you about your eating habits, why and when you decide to eat. It told me that I almost never eat when I'm HUNGRY, only when I think it's time to eat, or likely boredom, or just see something I want to eat.

Hard to describe but I really don't get that hungry during a 36-hour fast. I just finished up one this morning, having something to eat at about 39 or 40 hours. I ate a decent meal Wed about 4:30pm and didn't eat this morning until almost 8:30am
 

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:
I'm a weak bastard. I still drink some diet soda, and even some of the sugarless energy drinks I use. But I have to admit, I really feel good during and after the fast. I would guess maybe I'm not getting EVERY benefit of the fast by drinking what I do, but I have never drank coffee in my life, nor am I a Tea person. I guess those are for the most part okay. I've even seen some articles that say some diet soda isn't the end of the world.

Again, at least for ME, it really really tells you about your eating habits, why and when you decide to eat. It told me that I almost never eat when I'm HUNGRY, only when I think it's time to eat, or likely boredom, or just see something I want to eat.

Hard to describe but I really don't get that hungry during a 36-hour fast. I just finished up one this morning, having something to eat at about 39 or 40 hours. I ate a decent meal Wed about 4:30pm and didn't eat this morning until almost 8:30am
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100% I eat partly just because it's there. On days I'm really busy, it's not uncommon for me to get to 2:00 and realize I never ate lunch.
 


As a sort of fast, try cutting all processed sugar out of your diet for a while - everything (e.g., no BBQ sauce, granola bars, ketchup, a lot of types of salad dressing, etc.). You'll be amazed (a) how much stuff you currently eat is packed with sugar and (b) without eating that stuff, how much more energy you have during the day and evening.
  • Check the "Added Sugars" line on the Nutrition Facts panel.
  • Check Ingredients: Look for sugar, high fructose corn syrup, dextrose, maltose, molasses, honey, agave, or fruit juice concentrate.
 

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