Not-So-Happy Transfers

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To Be Named Later said:
What this writer fails to take into account is the very real loyalty that Penn Staters have for their school. It is easy to say that kids "should" transfer when looking in from the outside, but the emotion that goes into the WE ARE... chants is very real. I am friends with a couple former Penn State players and a couple other alums, and they are very proud of what they put in and what their degree means. The fact that four or five people made the decision to cover up the terrible acts of one person does not take away from my friends' pride, especially because their pride is more about the university as a whole than it is about the success of the football program.

I can only hope that Minnesota kids would share this same sense of pride in their degree, and it is disappointing that someone would say that kids "should" transfer. Then again, given the level of "journalism" found at the all-fan Bleacher Report, I am not surprised.

There will be transfers, but I would not be surprised if the numbers fall short of the "mass exodus" you are describing.
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Excellent points to be kept in mind. It's going to be difficult for Penn State to recruit going forward and they'll lose some guys due to transfer, but kids take a lot of things into account when making a college decision and my guess is even for football players, it's more than simply football. Penn State is a good school and I don't know if a lot of the players would transfer to a school with less academic prestige just to say they played in a bowl game.
 


MNGoldenGophers1 said:
It looks like the NCAA sanctions are not having the intended effect.

Pure guess but I think the lack of transfers may be a reult of lack of scholarships available this close to season starting and maybe coaches needing to get ready for season.
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Coolew01 said:
MNGoldenGophers1 said:
It looks like the NCAA sanctions are not having the intended effect.

Pure guess but I think the lack of transfers may be a reult of lack of scholarships available this close to season starting and maybe coaches needing to get ready for season.
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Good point. Here's the latest on the few who are leaving:

- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
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@schadjoe: Silas Redd Sr makes it official, confirming his son is headed to USC

Go Gophers!!
 



- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - USC

This last one has to sting. It could get interesting.
 

- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - (USC)
- Kevin Haplea - (TBD possibly Florida St.)

This last one hurts too. TE.
 




Coolew01 said:
MNGoldenGophers1 said:
It looks like the NCAA sanctions are not having the intended effect.

Pure guess but I think the lack of transfers may be a reult of lack of scholarships available this close to season starting and maybe coaches needing to get ready for season.
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I thought that schools were going to be able to take a PSU transfer even if they didn't have a scholarship available provided they took one less recruit the next year. Did that fall through?

It will be interesting if more players follow Redd out the door. I'm not surprised that there hasn't been a mass exodus from the program. Their real difficulty will be in recruiting quality players the next couple of years.
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MNGoldenGophers1 said:
I really thought there would be more transfers. It looks like the NCAA sanctions are not having the intended effect.

- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
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Wait...wasn't the intended effect of the NCAA sanctions to "change the culture" of college football?
 

- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - (USC)
- Kevin Haplea - (TBD possibly Florida St.)
- Jamil Pollard – Rutgers

4-star Pollard is the latest. The leak is getting bigger.
 

I'm really surprised more of the incoming freshmen aren't bailing. It's one thing for an established player to have to consider stay versus go, but it's a different thing when you haven't spent any real time on campus. A lot of those kids had multiple offers, you would think several of those offers would still be open, especially with the one year waiver for the scholarship counting.
 



Wow, USC sent six coaches to meet with Silas Redd:

Here's how it went down, according to Lane.

"I picked up the phone, in true SC fashion and called one of our great donors Ted Jones at Fletcher Jones Mercedes and I called him when we were at the SoHo House for the PAC-12 dinner and he said, 'Let me guess, you're calling about Silas. Where y'at?'"

"So he send his big ole Mercedes jet which was in Vegas to pick us up in LA. We got done with the PAC-12 meetings. We flew to White Plains, NY. It was myself, my dad, our running backs coach, our o-line coach."

"We called Coach Orgeron. He was in Louisiana. He got on a plane. Our defensive backs coach was in Nebraska. He got on a plane. The only two we couldn't get were our quarterbacks coach (Clay Helton). He was in Mexico because everybody was on vacation. Our receivers coach (Tee Martin) was on a cruise, so we tried to get a helicopter to go get him, but they wouldn't let us do it."

"We're in Norwalk, CT, up near you guys. We met at a Dunkin Donuts. Got our game plan, went into the house for a 3.5 hour presentation and flew back."

http://coachingsearch.com/home/974-priceless-lane-kiffin-describes-the-sc-pursuit-of-silas-redd.html

Go Gophers!!
 

BleedGopher said:
Wow, USC sent six coaches to meet with Silas Redd:

Here's how it went down, according to Lane.

"I picked up the phone, in true SC fashion and called one of our great donors Ted Jones at Fletcher Jones Mercedes and I called him when we were at the SoHo House for the PAC-12 dinner and he said, 'Let me guess, you're calling about Silas. Where y'at?'"

"So he send his big ole Mercedes jet which was in Vegas to pick us up in LA. We got done with the PAC-12 meetings. We flew to White Plains, NY. It was myself, my dad, our running backs coach, our o-line coach."

"We called Coach Orgeron. He was in Louisiana. He got on a plane. Our defensive backs coach was in Nebraska. He got on a plane. The only two we couldn't get were our quarterbacks coach (Clay Helton). He was in Mexico because everybody was on vacation. Our receivers coach (Tee Martin) was on a cruise, so we tried to get a helicopter to go get him, but they wouldn't let us do it."

"We're in Norwalk, CT, up near you guys. We met at a Dunkin Donuts. Got our game plan, went into the house for a 3.5 hour presentation and flew back."

http://coachingsearch.com/home/974-priceless-lane-kiffin-describes-the-sc-pursuit-of-silas-redd.html

Go Gophers!!
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wow
 

Are they not on probation for another year? Why are they allowed to participate in the pillaging of PSUs players?
 


corcoran1 said:
Are they not on probation for another year? Why are they allowed to participate in the pillaging of PSUs players?
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Because the penalty was not about punishing the parties involved, but also about making an entire school, program, and fan base look bad. If it was simply about punishment, they would have used the death penalty. The NCAA wanted to rub it in.
 



- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - (USC)
- Kevin Haplea - (TBD possibly Florida St.)
- Jamil Pollard – Rutgers
- Anthony Fera - TX

Fera was their big time punter.
 

highwayman said:
The loyalty to PSU is likely no greater than at any other school. To declare such is folly at best, denial at worst. I find it hard to believe that the general population of any school is that much different. Players are people, not automatons. We'll see, but I think the numbers of transfers will be interesting. It will take only a few to convince the rest.
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To Be Named Later said:
We will see. I am only repeating what I have heard and seen. You could be right, though I am guessing by the tone of your post that you have not known any Penn Staters.
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With 9 players gone in ten days, I guess I don't know Penn Staters. I do know people.
 

MNGoldenGophers1 said:


- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - (USC)
- Kevin Haplea - (TBD possibly Florida St.)
- Jamil Pollard – Rutgers
- Anthony Fera - TX

Fera was their big time punter.
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Haplea to Florida State. It's official per Tallahassee Democrat on 8-1-12. (TDO.com)
 

TLHGO4 said:
Haplea to Florida State. It's official per Tallahassee Democrat on 8-1-12. (TDO.com)
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You're right, thanks. Plus, Nowicki to Ill.




- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - (USC)
- Kevin Haplea - (Florida St.)
- Jamil Pollard – Rutgers
- Anthony Fera - TX

Justin Brown could be next?
 


MNGoldenGophers1 said:
You're right, thanks. Plus, Nowicki to Ill.




- Ross Douglas (decommit to Michigan)
- Ryan Nowicki (TBD)
- Rob Bolden (LSU)
- Tim Buckley (NC State)
- Khairi Fortt (Cal)
- Silas Redd - (USC)
- Kevin Haplea - (Florida St.)
- Jamil Pollard – Rutgers
- Anthony Fera - TX

Justin Brown could be next?
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I have to admit i drank the cool aid that few would leave. But this makes more sense.

Could someone please update the list of players with their yr in school this fall or 2013 recruit?

Thanks. That will show which classes are being impacted.

GM
 

gophermartin said:
I have to admit i drank the cool aid that few would leave. But this makes more sense.

Could someone please update the list of players with their yr in school this fall or 2013 recruit?

Thanks. That will show which classes are being impacted.

GM
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Here ya go: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/8/1/3212494/penn-state-football-roster-players-leaving

One senior, four juniors, two redshirt freshmen, one incoming freshman, and two recruits. Potential transfer Justin Brown is a senior and Akeel Lynch (another potential transfer) is an incoming freshman.
 

Although this not a transfer and no guarantee that he would have gone to P.S., Philly H.S. running back David Williams has dropped P.S. from consideration.
 


Only if electronically timed. None of this hand held bs.
 


Gopher Gold said:
Apologies if this has already been mentioned..

Penn States first post-sanctions signee.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/r...ate-nittany-lions-first-post-sanctions-signee
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"Brennan Franklin, a linebacker with scholarship offers this past winter from the likes of Wofford College, Eastern Kentucky and Robert Morris, leaves home Friday for State College, Pa., a journey that casts him as a symbolic figure in the worst college football scandal ever."

Maybe it's time to retract all those statements about "they'll be fine," and "they'll be back on top in no time at all". PSU is sunk...
 

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