No black head coaches in the Big 10 ....

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Art - "You wanna place the race card eh? How many white starting RB's are there in the B10?"

Let me get this right, you think that White head coaches are discriminating against White running backs in the BT? Wow. You actually magnifiy the relevance of this post in your argument. Black coaches and Black players are not in the same boat. Everyone should compete on the merits of their competence, charisma and experience, but Black coaches are often denied the needed experience (especially the coveted OC position), and then they are not interviewed or hired under the theory that they are not qualified. If I am wrong, tell me how many Black OCs you know of in D1 football (and DCs do not carry the same HC preparation weight). Players compete and it makes little sense to keep a stud on the bench (of any race). Lots of things influence opportunities to play. Some players are more "coachable" despite talent, some players are from MN and perceptions of playing time are part of the recruiting game, some players have mommy and daddy call coaches every fifteen minutes, and some coaches just don't like a particular kid and may keep him on the back burner. There is not a chance in hell that the "institution of college football" would advantage Black players who were not believed to be most talented and most likely to help the team win. The institutions gain nothing from doing so. You need only look at the coaching disparity to prove my point. Universities see no great advantage in having Black head coaches (because they can hire four or five positions guys and" feel diversified"). Thus, they don't.

Race does matter. Not because a person of a particular race makes a better coach. It matters because the players (all of them) are living a racial experience. For players who are miles from family and friends, who will "get it" when they are called a racial slur by a drunken idiot in Dinky? Ask the White kids at a Historically Black College if race matters.

Racism is not about "bad, evil people." It is about systems of privilege which allow racial preference to be consciously and unconsciously perpetuated. No system produces consistent results unless it is designed and supported to do so. The player ranks did not become accidentally integrated, and neither will the coaching ranks.
 

The Big Ten should have quite a few black quarterbacks next year...Gray (Minn), Bolden (PSU), Pryor (OSU), Robinson (Mich) to name a few. Just pointing out something positive with the Big Ten and the whole race issue.
 

If there's really this abundance of great but unemployed black head coaches that are better than employed white coaches, wouldn't at least one school hire one and then beat the crap out of all the supposedly racist schools?
 

MNRideorDieChick said:
Art - "You wanna place the race card eh? How many white starting RB's are there in the B10?"

Let me get this right, you think that White head coaches are discriminating against White running backs in the BT? Wow. You actually magnifiy the relevance of this post in your argument..
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That's how a guy like Toby Gerhart sets the California High School record for rushing yards, comes into college with prototype size and speed, and ends up a three star recruit with a "decent" offer list while a guy like Stafon Johnson comes out of the same state in the same year with worse stats and ends up a five star blue chip with offers from all the helmet schools.
 


dpodoll68 said:
The whole "there are more black players, therefore there should be more black coaches" argument is one of the most specious and ridiculous arguments I've ever heard, and yet, people like you continue to advance it.

Think about it like this: it's basically the same as saying, "There are more blacks than whites in prisons across the country, so there should be more black prison wardens." Why have I never heard anyone advance that argument?
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I tried to "think about it like this .... " , but my brain hurt too much. Please don't tell me you possess a diploma from the U.

And again Shannon is a bad coach?? A great record as a DC and en excellent graduation rate as HC.

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/shannon_randy00.html

Listen, knotheads ... I will support Coach Kill. I hope the guy is a screaming success at the U. But something is really wrong with D1 football and the opportunities it provides to minority coaches. Hope you enjoy the last days of the Roman Empire.
 

Hate to break it to you, but success of college coaches is not primarily measured in graduation rate. Tickets aren't sold based on APR either.
 

I apologize on behalf of the University of Minnesota for their dastardly decision to offer the position of head coach to a white devil after being turned down by the black man to whom they first offered the job.
 

Based on the original poster's logic, I worry more that dumbasses are still sadly an overrepresented group on Gopherhole.
 



Since we're on the subject, there's no native american head coaches in the big ten either! WTF!!!
 

and 1 in 5 people on the planet is chinese

so which two of the big ten coaches? I'm thinking BB and RichRod

love this thread!
 

This thread is ridiculous. Everyone knows the fraternity of College Football Coaches. I'm all for hiring coaches for the right reasons. It doesnt matter of they're white, black, red, green, or brown! For people to say that race isn't a factor then that's false. No one should be hired just because of their color, but to say that it is only 13(or however many African american coaches) "Qualified" to be a head coach is sad.
 

TPatt17 said:
This thread is ridiculous. Everyone knows the fraternity of College Football Coaches. I'm all for hiring coaches for the right reasons. It doesnt matter if they're white, black, red, green, or brown! For people to say that race isn't a factor then that's false. No one should be hired just because of their color, but to say that it is only 13 (or however many African american coaches) "Qualified" to be a head coach is sad.
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84% of NCAA coaches are tools, but only 25% of people are tools.

We need to fix this. I vote for redistribution of wealth, as this will fix the problem (or at the very least create a new, different problem).
 


I'm just getting the hang of this thing. The one tha i typed was a mistake. I figured I can be like the rest of the people on here and just post ridiculous things...
 

so true

Jeshurun said:
84% of NCAA coaches are tools, but only 25% of people are tools.

We need to fix this. I vote for redistribution of wealth, as this will fix the problem (or at the very least create a new, different problem).
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It was as tho HS jerks grew older and became football coaches at the D1 level.
 

Formo said:
Since our President (of the Union) is of African-American descent, the use of the 'race card' has been tossed the way of the Dodo.

Sorry, weak ass topic subject.
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I haven't read this thread yet but I must respond to this
Sorry but that's an idiotic thing to say. A black (or half black) man being president doesn't mean all race issues cease to exist or that discrimination doesn't still happen and effect people's lives negatively. Thats like saying if Hillary had become president that there are no more gender issues. That's a short sighted statement made only by people that live with blinders on to the real world. Most of the racial issues that exist today are institutionalized and date back to the days of segregation. I'll stop there
 

and as a response to the whole point of the thread:
There will be more black coaches in the coming years. The majority of D1 coaches started somewhere as grad assistants or even HS coaches. Most colleges require coaches to have a bachelors degree. The reality is that a much smaller percentage of black players actually receive degrees than whites and this dates back to when blacks started playing D1 football for a number of reasons (poverty, race, blah blah blah). Every year a larger percentage of blacks actually graduate from college whether they play sports or not. This will lead to a larger pool of blacks qualified to take even those low level jobs meaning more and more will move up the ranks in CFB. If you have 1000 grad assistants maybe 100 will become D10 position coaches, maybe 10 of them will be coordinators and maybe 1 will be a head coach. 20 years ago 25 of those original 1000 were probably black. Now its probably closer to 100. Still not a huge percentage overall but exponentially better than before so now maybe 10 of those black guys become position coaches and maybe 2 will be coordinators and maybe 1 gets to be a HC. Progress is a slow process at times
 

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