Next year's over/under

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die hard gopher said:
TCU isn't a very good football team, they won the Rose a few years ago but they aren't a very good team right now, i'm not really worried about them at all, it will actually be a huge plus, we will win relatively easily yet we will be able to say we went on the road and beat a big 12 team that went undefeated 3 years ago, and why is everybody marking NW as 50/50 game?
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Again, this is what people said about Syracuse before the bowl game. I don't think anybody thinks TCU is much worse than Syracuse, do they?

NW will have a decent team next year if healthy, that's why people are pinning it as 50-50
 

MZBKA said:
I'm curious if you had to set the betting line for the number of Gopher wins next year, what would Gopherholers pick? We have a tougher schedule next year, with TCU in the non-conference schedule and OSU at home.

Date Opponent Location
Ths, Aug 28 Eastern Illinois TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Sep 06 Middle Tennessee State TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Sep 13 at TCU Fort Worth, Texas
Sat, Sep 20 San Jose State TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Sep 27 at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sat, Oct 11 Northwestern *^ TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Oct 18 Purdue *^ TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Oct 25 at Illinois *^ Champaign, Ill.
Sat, Nov 08 Iowa *^ TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Nov 15 Ohio State * TCF Bank Stadium
Sat, Nov 22 at Nebraska *^ Lincoln, Neb.
Sat, Nov 29 at Wisconsin *^ Madison, Wis.

My line right now would be 7.5 wins.
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I think we'll be about as good as this year. So 6 would be my number. Couple breaks went our way this year and we got to 8.
 


MZBKA said:
I agree with you except to say that Jones should RS unless he's one of the top 2 running backs on the team. With our offense, the #3 guy hardly sees any time. It'd be a waste of a year for two carries for JJ.
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I envision Edwards getting some carries on the jet sweeps just like Gordon was used at Wisconsin in 2012. I think Cobb got so many carries this year because he was head and shoulders above everyone else.
 

Nelson will throw it over.
Leidner will throw it under.
Gopher football 2014.
 


Sparlimb said:
I think we'll be about as good as this year. So 6 would be my number. Couple breaks went our way this year and we got to 8.
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why would you think we would only be as good next year as we were this year? we will once again be one of the most improved teams in the big ten, there is no reason not to expect that
 

Jeff Jones might not even be around in 5 years, even if he was playing at Alabama with a stable of RBs more talented then him he wouldn't redshirt
 

8.5 unapologetically. If anyone thinks that this bowl loss will do anything but put a chip on the shoulder of this team you are wrong. From the weight room and spring practice on this team will be on fire. Our facilities and weather make bowl games difficult. Get with Lou and donate to the building fund.

We roll Iowa and Michigan in Ann Arbor. Nebraska, Wisky and tOSU can go either way. We can have a power run team with lightning in a bottle unleashed. Jones will rush for at least 500 yards. To others hit 1000. Maxx, Wolly, and others will start making big plays look routine when the OL dominates. The QB situation will sort itself out just fine.

Gopher Football stays fun! Go Killer! Go Gophers!!!
 






die hard gopher said:
I never said it was, the coaches would chose not to redshirt him,
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you realize the reason that Saban doesn't redshirt his guys is because he knows he's getting backs every single year and that most of them will leave after 1 or 2 years of starting anyways so it doesn't impact them. We are not quite built that way so Jones would most definitely be RS if the coaches decide he won't get significant carries (which very well may be the case). Just saying it's a massive reach of a comparison between us and Bama in that Bama brings in top flight backs every single year
 

I'm saying we shouldn't redshift him because not only is he our best back but because he could very well only stay for 3 years, or possibly 4 if he redshirts, I don't see a player like Jeff being g a 5 year player, my point is why redshirt a guy if he isnt even going to use up all of his eligibility, you might as well use him all 3 years then to have him sit the first year and only play 2 years
 




die hard gopher said:
I'm saying we shouldn't redshift him because not only is he our best back but because he could very well only stay for 3 years, or possibly 4 if he redshirts, I don't see a player like Jeff being g a 5 year player, my point is why redshirt a guy if he isnt even going to use up all of his eligibility, you might as well use him all 3 years then to have him sit the first year and only play 2 years
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there are very few RBs that leave early anymore so I wouldn't be worried about that possibility
 

upnorthkid said:
there are very few RBs that leave early anymore so I wouldn't be worried about that possibility
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It is honestly the exact opposite of this statement. Of RBs that are draft eligible you're seeing a higher percentage that leave early.
 

diehard said:
8.5 unapologetically. If anyone thinks that this bowl loss will do anything but put a chip on the shoulder of this team you are wrong. From the weight room and spring practice on this team will be on fire. Our facilities and weather make bowl games difficult. Get with Lou and donate to the building fund.

We roll Iowa and Michigan in Ann Arbor. Nebraska, Wisky and tOSU can go either way. We can have a power run team with lightning in a bottle unleashed. Jones will rush for at least 500 yards. To others hit 1000. Maxx, Wolly, and others will start making big plays look routine when the OL dominates. The QB situation will sort itself out just fine.

Gopher Football stays fun! Go Killer! Go Gophers!!!
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Wow, that's quite the leap.
 

Yes it will be. Sorry we are going to be a threat to your BADgers.
 

upnorthkid said:
why is everyone so afraid of TCU? Boykin is not a great QB, their D is a shadow of what it was a few years ago, we should've gotten our QB situation (at least I hope to god we have by then) worked out. The only thing is it's a road game. Don't get me wrong, it will be tough, but it's not one of the toughest games on our slate by a long shot.

I'd set the O/U at 7.5 as we should sweep the non-con schedule and beat Purdue and Ill for sure. Then we've got Mich, NW, Iowa, OSU, Neb, and Wisc which are going to be tough games but I'd say we beat NW and win at least 1 of 3 against Iowa, Wisc, or Neb to get to 8 wins. The only game I don't really see us having much of a shot is OSU. Michigan will be difficult as well. We'll see who ends up leaving early for several of these teams too and what happens on the coaching carousel and with transfers but I'd say 8 wins is a realistic expectation given that our WR's get another year to mature and they were showing some good signs especially in the bowl game, our QB play should improve as you have to imagine someone is going to assert himself into the role, and our secondary should be solid again. I'm hopeful we will see an improvement on our record from this year to next yet again.
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I think uou might be underestimatig the misfortune the Frogs have dealt with these last two years. We lost our starting QB both years. This last season we also lost three startstarting Olibemen to grades and transfers. Our freshman of the year D-end broke his goot the second week, etc. Our seasons have been maligned with injuries.

Our D returns 9 of 11 from a unit that led the Big XII in D. We also hired new Co-OCs from Houston and Texas Tech. We are talented but inexperienced at QB with a top 10 recruit in Mathews as a Soph snd two top 15 QBs in tjis class. If our offense can even be somewhat competent (and we stay healthy) we expect the Frogs to be top 25 material again.

We lost heartbreakers/squeakers to Tech, Kstate, LSU, OU, WVU and Baylor. With a top 100 offense we win most of those games.

I'm excited to see the Gophs improved next year. They are bigger, faster, more aggresive then I have ever seen them. For the first time in my lifetime I watched then this yesr and expected a good game each time I tuned in. I exoect 8-10 wins for ur boys next year.

Both teams will be VASTLY improved.
 


maroonedinCA said:
It is honestly the exact opposite of this statement. Of RBs that are draft eligible you're seeing a higher percentage that leave early.
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look at the guys that come out early. the sure fire top 2 round picks. now look at all the RBs and look at what happens in college. out of the top 20 backs each year, how many end up as talents like Lacy, Ball, etc. and look at the actual percentage numbers of how many guys leave early. the top 20 backs don't always pan out as top 20 backs, or if they do, given the low demand in the NFL, they often are better suited to come back another year and refine their skills to get picked higher and guarantee themselves more money for their first contract (Ball, Gordon, etc.). That's why I'm saying the percentage chances of Jones leaving early are really not that high, and we will want to get as much as we can out of him. Now I agree fully, if he's the best back we've got (and it's seeming more like he will be from the UAA camp) then by all means start him. But to suggest he definitely shouldn't be RS is kind of ridiculous at this point.
 

MN Frog said:
I think uou might be underestimatig the misfortune the Frogs have dealt with these last two years. We lost our starting QB both years. This last season we also lost three startstarting Olibemen to grades and transfers. Our freshman of the year D-end broke his goot the second week, etc. Our seasons have been maligned with injuries.

Our D returns 9 of 11 from a unit that led the Big XII in D. We also hired new Co-OCs from Houston and Texas Tech. We are talented but inexperienced at QB with a top 10 recruit in Mathews as a Soph snd two top 15 QBs in tjis class. If our offense can even be somewhat competent (and we stay healthy) we expect the Frogs to be top 25 material again.

We lost heartbreakers/squeakers to Tech, Kstate, LSU, OU, WVU and Baylor. With a top 100 offense we win most of those games.

I'm excited to see the Gophs improved next year. They are bigger, faster, more aggresive then I have ever seen them. For the first time in my lifetime I watched then this yesr and expected a good game each time I tuned in. I exoect 8-10 wins for ur boys next year.

Both teams will be VASTLY improved.
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I knew about the starting QB for both years. Boykin just does not impress me in the flashes I saw of him but if ne of your new guys is an improvement you will be much tougher. And I agree you lost some tight games, but losses are losses. I expect your D to be tough yet again but (and I will fully admit I don't know who plays your games in and out and who starts) but you seem to have a lot of guys graduating in the secondary and lose some more O lineman. It should be a good game, but one I feel we SHOULD win. However obviously the offseason can have a big impact on that opinion
 

Looks like a 7 & 5 season to me.
I think they lose one non-conf game (TCU or SJSU). I think they win four B1G games (Purdue, Ill, NW and Iowa). I'd love to be wrong but I don't think I'm too far off the mark.
 

Section209 said:
Looks like a 7 & 5 season to me.
I think they lose one non-conf game (TCU or SJSU). I think they win four B1G games (Purdue, Ill, NW and Iowa). I'd love to be wrong but I don't think I'm too far off the mark.
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Shouldn't SJSU be a pretty weak team next year? Don't they lose their star QB?
 

Section209 said:
Looks like a 7 & 5 season to me.
I think they lose one non-conf game (TCU or SJSU). I think they win four B1G games (Purdue, Ill, NW and Iowa). I'd love to be wrong but I don't think I'm too far off the mark.
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Were you predicting another 3 win season last year and a 5 win season this year? I can't fathom less then 8 wins next year and would be disappointed with less then 9 including a bowl game, we should be once again one if not the most improved team in the big ten next year
 


MZBKA said:
Shouldn't SJSU be a pretty weak team next year? Don't they lose their star QB?
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Probably. I haven't seen the kid they'll be playing next year at QB. I'm not saying SJSU will be a better team. I'm not even saying the Goph's SHOULD lose to them. But I can envision a non-conf loss to one of the two teams I noted. Let's face it, Minn was a better team than Syracuse but the Goph's lost. On paper, I think they win all 4 non-conf. But I'm betting it doesn't play out that way.
 

MZBKA said:
Could happen. The only tough games we have in our first 8 games are TCU, Michigan, and Northwestern.

It's also possible we lose those 3 games and fail to make a bowl.
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Michigan has all the appearances of being a complete dumpsterfire right now. But a lot can happen betweenn now and next October. I agree that those 3 games will make or break our season. OTOH, people said the same thing about the Iowa game this year. We stank it up that Saturday, but still had a damn good season.
 

die hard gopher said:
Were you predicting another 3 win season last year and a 5 win season this year? I can't fathom less then 8 wins next year and would be disappointed with less then 9 including a bowl game, we should be once again one if not the most improved team in the big ten next year
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I don't recall that I had any expectations for 2012 and I had this year pegged at 6-6 (until the Iowa loss). When you consider the Goph's were underdogs in most (all?) the B1G wins this year, it doesn't seem like a 6-6 expectation was being pessimistic. The NW win was only by 3 points and the IU win was only by 3 with a fortunate fumble in the closing seconds. I don't think anyone would have been surprised if those games would have gone the other way. The Goph's out-performed everyone's expectations this year and I don't think anyone would have predicted an 8-4 season.

I would love for you to be right about next year. Looking up-thread here, I'm not the only one picking 7 wins and I see one or two 6 win predictions.

I'm not convinced some of what we saw this year is a permanent change in the Goph's. And I'm not trying to take away from what they did this year. But look at the last three games, 13 quarters without an offensive touchdown. After posting some very impressive play earlier in the season, the Goph's went back to what we'd seen in the past. Yes, UW and MSU were stronger teams, but the Goph's hung with UW pretty we'll for a good portion of that game. There's no reason the offense shouldn't have posted points in either of those games. And the Syracuse game, well....

Will I be surprised with 8 wins next year? No. Do I think 7 wins is "unfathomable?" No. 9 wins? That seems unlikely to me, but I'll be tickled to death if it happens.
 

some of you are acting like this years gopher team is playing next years schedule and if they were then i would agree with you but that is not the case, next years gopher team plays next years schedule, and next years gophers should be a lot better then this years gophers
 

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