new roster takes shape

Any coach that doesn't have a top notch roster already in hand...and has one or more open scholarships should be out there attempting to buy a player that is a difference maker. If we aren't doing that in our situation, the coach should be fired. Leaving the last scholarship open at this point is like having a bad hand in poker and refusing to draw another card, because you don't want to offend the other cards in your hand.

Get Ken Evans or a similar difference maker... a number 2 option behind Garcia.

Beeg - in order to buy a player, you have to have enough money to meet that player's asking price.
if you don't have the money, you don't have the money. that's like telling me I should go out and buy a $400,000 house. believe me, I'd love to have a house like that. but I don't have the money.

you get what you can afford. I have a $70,000 house because that's what I can afford. and the Gophers have their current roster because that's what they can afford.

The Gophers are already a hard sell - no recent tradition of winning, not a factor in their conference, etc. if they want a player who is a difference maker, they're not going to get him at a discount. they have to be able to pay full retail price. and they have to have the cash on hand. no credit card or rubber checks accepted.
 

Beeg - in order to buy a player, you have to have enough money to meet that player's asking price.
if you don't have the money, you don't have the money. that's like telling me I should go out and buy a $400,000 house. believe me, I'd love to have a house like that. but I don't have the money.

you get what you can afford. I have a $70,000 house because that's what I can afford. and the Gophers have their current roster because that's what they can afford.

The Gophers are already a hard sell - no recent tradition of winning, not a factor in their conference, etc. if they want a player who is a difference maker, they're not going to get him at a discount. they have to be able to pay full retail price. and they have to have the cash on hand. no credit card or rubber checks accepted.
I believe they had been attempting to stockpile money in case Christie came back. My guess is that the money is there and could be had for a significant player. It is revealing that they are in contact with a couple of such players. Why bother if you don't have any money?
 

The Gophers are already a hard sell - no recent tradition of winning, not a factor in their conference, etc. if they want a player who is a difference maker, they're not going to get him at a discount. they have to be able to pay full retail price. and they have to have the cash on hand. no credit card or rubber checks accepted.

I agree that this program is not an easy sell for a variety of reasons and not all of them are related to basketball success (or lack of). From what I understand, NIL is paid in installments so they wouldn't have to have 100% of a player's allotment upfront.
 

I hadn’t heard about that. Definitely not good.

Agree, take a hard pass on that guy.

Just saw the video. He didn’t do anything of concern (that indicative of a character issue). Hard to see completely, but characterizing his movements as a punch is a tough sell.

Also, the sundial reads the bouncer “alledgedly punched” him. He gets drilled - hard. Reading the article I was inclined to agree with the hard pass. My curiosity got me to watch the body cam they mentioned.

I think this is overblown. Just a little overserved. The only real assault is done by the bouncer. He’s really upset about it. Once his mind gets caught up to what is going on, he’s polite and calm.
 

Just saw the video. He didn’t do anything of concern (that indicative of a character issue). Hard to see completely, but characterizing his movements as a punch is a tough sell.

Also, the sundial reads the bouncer “alledgedly punched” him. He gets drilled - hard. Reading the article I was inclined to agree with the hard pass. My curiosity got me to watch the body cam they mentioned.

I think this is overblown. Just a little overserved. The only real assault is done by the bouncer. He’s really upset about it. Once his mind gets caught up to what is going on, he’s polite and calm.
You might want to give the video another look. The guy wearing the webcam, who he charged and swang at, is a police officer.

I don't care what happened between him and the bouncer, he attacked a cop and was dragged to the ground and then pretended to not be able to breathe to try to get out of it. The video, IMO, was worse than the description. Hard pass for me on this guy.
 


You might want to give the video another look. The guy wearing the webcam, who he charged and swang at, is a police officer.

I don't care what happened between him and the bouncer, he attacked a cop and was dragged to the ground and then pretended to not be able to breathe to try to get out of it. The video, IMO, was worse than the description. Hard pass for me on this guy.
Was the police officer recognizable as a police officer?
In any case, Allen-Eikens is a perfect fit for the Gophers, who badly need a scoring big wing and have a roster spot vacancy to add him.
In addition, the Gophers appear to be financially challenged and would be grateful to obtain him for the felony discounted NIL.
 
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You might want to give the video another look. The guy wearing the webcam, who he charged and swang at, is a police officer.

I don't care what happened between him and the bouncer, he attacked a cop and was dragged to the ground and then pretended to not be able to breathe to try to get out of it. The video, IMO, was worse than the description. Hard pass for me on this guy.
Understand about the Bodycam. Recognize the Axios as the bodycam id.

And perhaps I am missing a part of the law.
And Perhaps I got to state a few assumptions I am working from; maybe they change things.

First, the state gives some allowance to “bouncer made law.” They need a little lattitude with drunks. Its just the reality. They’re also meatheads, so i think that means we have to have some tolerance (in both prosecution and judgement), when it comes to the sorting/meting things out.

reality to me says bouncers do jump the gun, misjudge often, and escalate things. However, the converse is with a crowd of drunks (especially those under 27), things have a potential to blow up quickly. So the the converse is a brawl. Got to stop any brawl potential. So that punch is fine.

The 2nd part

On the other hand, you got a guy that just got slammed, then jacked. Getting jacked, then getting up and expecting a rational response (especially in a bar) is a tall ask.

If I get punched like that, I’m getting up in defense. I ain’t parsing out who pulled me up. I’m defending myself. Even if I do recognize a cop, I’m wondering why he isn’t arresting an assailant.

he gets punched at .25 seconds, Officer Perez picks him up around .28 seconds. Pushes him multiple times, has him on the ground before 30 seconds elapsed.

Now I am unsure how long it takes for his adrenaline to dissapate, but I guess it’s longer than 30 seconds. I’m also noting the cop doesn’t realize his role in the reaponse here. He pulls him up and immediately starts shoving him - someone that just got punched…. Not the move. I think a minor cop mistake, but it certainly puts most people in a defense posture.

Elkins’s moves don’t appear offensive (more defensive). His isn’t attacking, he’s creating space between the guy shoving him. Not defending his moves as noting there character.

Finally, there is the “I can’t breathe.” Someone drinking I’d like expect there perfusion level to be around 88-92%. At the gas exchange level, alcohol gets burned off through our breath and I believe that is why there is a lower perfusion level. So I think that is probably what he is feeling and why he thinks he’s out of breath. Any physical activity with perfusion that low should feel like that.

He gets taken to the ground. He starts realizing whats going on he sounds like he’s calming down. Starts stating I’ll go home. To me, probably would be the move here in a just world. Cop’s hands are probably tied by the law. Once taken down he’s has to go.

Absent any more context, I think this is where this story ends. Give him a fine and move on.

If he did something real bad to get thrown out it changes the calculus. If he’s had issues before or after, it changes the calculus. With just what I see I think a fine is appropriate.

Maybe if I am the cop’s boss, I teach him how he could have imrpoved his safety chances by walking the guy out, acknowledging him, and saying ya still gotta go. Got it, you feel its unfair, shut up and go home.

Circling the convuluted post back around:

We got a cop, that is enforcing law, whereby the only crime he has knowledge about is the bouncer’s assault on the victim. Since, it’s understandable the state needs to enforce that, given its potential, I feel its just, to not have the state, put into a collusive position with the bouncer. To do that, I just let it go. Kid pays $500 bucks (read enough to hurt), learn how to drink fucker, and we all move on.

P.S. i think I was thrown in the article by “allegedly” - somebody watched that punch, then wrote, “allegedly.”
 







Poor Ben. And I'm worried the kid from California is a Gavin Newsome plant/spy....:cool:
I am worried that Ben is the spy.
The California kid is 6'0" 145 lbs.
He will never convince anyone that he is a basketball player!
The new roster is taking the shape of a puddle of shit!
 
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It is encouraging that the 5th year kid from Rochester isn’t being put on scholarship cause if they weren’t planning on using the last one it would’ve made sense to put him on scholarship for this year.
 



It is encouraging that the 5th year kid from Rochester isn’t being put on scholarship cause if they weren’t planning on using the last one it would’ve made sense to put him on scholarship for this year.
I hope you are right, but Ben likes to give the last scholarship to a walk-on as a last minute surprise which inspires future walk-ons.
 



I can’t imagine a sophomore who’s played 7 total minutes of college basketball all of which in garbage time would get put on scholarship over a 5th year senior with experience, but I suppose it’s possible
 

I can’t imagine a sophomore who’s played 7 total minutes of college basketball all of which in garbage time would get put on scholarship over a 5th year senior with experience, but I suppose it’s possible
Reader is the favorite because he has already served one year as a walk-on, like Ramberg and Purcell did the past two seasons. It seems less likely that either of the two newbies would earn a scholarship BEFORE they served their walk-on sentence.
That being said, I hope the last scholarship goes to.a superstar big wing transfer instead of a useless, non-playing walk-on.
 


It is encouraging that the 5th year kid from Rochester isn’t being put on scholarship cause if they weren’t planning on using the last one it would’ve made sense to put him on scholarship for this year.
I would assume one of the senior walk-ons (Reader etc.) would get it. Not a freshman.
 

Reader is the favorite because he has already served one year as a walk-on, like Ramberg and Purcell did the past two seasons. It seems less likely that either of the two newbies would earn a scholarship BEFORE they served their walk-on sentence.
That being said, I hope the last scholarship goes to.a superstar big wing transfer instead of a useless, non-playing walk-on.
It's June 17th. Do you figure there's a lot of "superstars" cooling their heels waiting to sign with Ben Johnson and the Gophers?
 




It's June 17th. Do you figure there's a lot of "superstars" cooling their heels waiting to sign with Ben Johnson and the Gophers?
Not sure what you define as a superstar but DeSean Eikens averaged 19/5/3 and was 2nd team all league. Could instantly be our 2nd best player behind Garcia and supposedly we are after him, sounds like he might be waiting for a medical waiver to play this year though
 

Not sure what you define as a superstar but DeSean Eikens averaged 19/5/3 and was 2nd team all league. Could instantly be our 2nd best player behind Garcia and supposedly we are after him, sounds like he might be waiting for a medical waiver to play this year though
If not a superstar, he is close enough, and he is an excellent "FIT!"
And we may be able to afford him!
 
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If not a superstar, he is close enough, and he is an excellent "FIT!"
I agree. Provides great size and experience on the perimeter, he raises the ceiling of this team exponentially. Could be a bonafide sidekick to Garcia that can score from all 3 levels of the floor
 

Not sure what you define as a superstar but DeSean Eikens averaged 19/5/3 and was 2nd team all league. Could instantly be our 2nd best player behind Garcia and supposedly we are after him, sounds like he might be waiting for a medical waiver to play this year though
Sorry, not familiar with his need for a medical waiver. What’s that about? (Thanks)
 






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