My take away from the Barn ...

It also seemed like MacKenzie handled the ball a whole lot more as the season wore on and Nolen's offensive short comings became more obvious.
 

It's called having three seniors to pass the ball to.
 


Will you share, zTTa?

Moderator Snowman.

Height of HYpocrisy = MN SNowman. Are you going to have another meltdown?

You know who Stan and Blizzard are, dont you moderator?

GH = Hypocrisy. Having MN Boy as moderator.

Bleed, Lady, Jason, etc - great decison making.
 

TJ Has It.....

I think you have Nolen assessed correctly. Some PGs have a real sense of the pace of the game, what they can exploit and their role in each game. Al has a hard time feeling the game on the offensive side of the court. He alternates between trying to do too much and just dribbling/passing around without a purpose. That stuff is hard to coach.
On defense he can use his toughness, quickness and ball hawking skills very effectively....his comfort zone. If Cobb or Joseph can run the offense, score when the opportunity presents itself, and play intense D...well, they will rotate for a lot of time at PG next year.
 


I think you have Nolen assessed correctly. Some PGs have a real sense of the pace of the game, what they can exploit and their role in each game. Al has a hard time feeling the game on the offensive side of the court. He alternates between trying to do too much and just dribbling/passing around without a purpose. That stuff is hard to coach.
On defense he can use his toughness, quickness and ball hawking skills very effectively....his comfort zone. If Cobb or Joseph can run the offense, score when the opportunity presents itself, and play intense D...well, they will rotate for a lot of time at PG next year.

TITCR. I saw this kind of play all season long from Nolen, and others. Westbrook and Hoffarber also seemed at times that they didn't know whether to sh*t or wind their wristwatch. I must say that, to me, it seemed the only players who confidently moved into position, framed up shots and tried to execute with authority were Damien Johnson and Ralph Sampson. Not good. I'm looking for Devoe Joseph to grow into this type of authoritative player, and I think we can expect it from Royce White and Trevore Mbakwe right off the bat.
 

Again you fail to admit that a n was a better player as a so. Perhaps tubby has broken him? Can he be rebuilt?

I'm not sure if you're talking past tense ? Is Al a better player this year than he was last year ? Has he regressed ? I don't think he's regressed at all but his limitations are being shown through his increased role and minutes this year as others have said. I think you would prefer to blame it on Tubby. I don't. I think overall he's an average player and typical of Monson's recruiting. I really, really, wish Tubby could have signed V. Jones so we could have had a reliable scorer at the point. Tubby knew Al's limitations. I'm seeing Al's minutes reduced next year with Cobb coming in and Joseph and a viable option.
 

I'm not sure if you're talking past tense ? Is Al a better player this year than he was last year ? Has he regressed ? I don't think he's regressed at all but his limitations are being shown through his increased role and minutes this year as others have said. I think you would prefer to blame it on Tubby. I don't. I think overall he's an average player and typical of Monson's recruiting. I really, really, wish Tubby could have signed V. Jones so we could have had a reliable scorer at the point. Tubby knew Al's limitations. I'm seeing Al's minutes reduced next year with Cobb coming in and Joseph and a viable option.

Oh yes, you were singing the praises of V Jones when he was being recruited. Not.

Easy to say now that he has performed quite well as a fr on a bad team.
 

Oh yes, you were singing the praises of V Jones when he was being recruited. Not.

I hadn't started posting here yet.

Again, you obviously have issues with Tubby. What don't you get them off your chest for all to see ?
 



Moderator Snowman.

Height of HYpocrisy = MN SNowman. Are you going to have another meltdown?

You know who Stan and Blizzard are, dont you moderator?

GH = Hypocrisy. Having MN Boy as moderator.

Bleed, Lady, Jason, etc - great decison making.

STFU, TT.
 


TT - If you have issues with Tubby or the coaching staff why don't you let everyone know what they are ?

There's nothing wrong with being critical and none of the coaches and players are above reproach past or present.
 

TT - If you have issues with Tubby or the coaching staff why don't you let everyone know what they are ?

There's nothing wrong with being critical and none of the coaches and players are above reproach past or present.

Right. That is why any post that isnt complimentary of the coach or coaching decisions is summarily blasted.

I have no issues with the coach, reserve.

Results are all that matters. Lots and lots of wins against top competition, Big 10 and NCAA titles.

Results.
 



Results are all that matters. Lots and lots of wins against top competition, Big 10 and NCAA titles.

When are you expecting to see those results ? Do you think Tubby and Co. have brought them quickly enough ?
 

When are you expecting to see those results ? Do you think Tubby and Co. have brought them quickly enough ?

Immediately. After all, the previous regime was, at best, horrid.

Expectations are sky high, the same as the compensation of the coach. Where they should be, dont you agree, reserve?
 



Immediately. After all, the previous regime was, at best, horrid.

Expectations are sky high, the same as the compensation of the coach. Where they should be, dont you agree

Gophers go from 9 - 20 to 20 - 14 and then 20 - 9 ( so far ) looking good for an NCAA berth. I don't believe the sky high goals will be reached with the talent leftover on the roster from the former regime. Not a bash on those players. Tubby's getting, I'm sure, as much as they have to offer talentwise. I expect that Tubby's making money for the University the same as Boeheim with Syracuse though probably not quite as much.

With attendance, I wonder if the basketball program was able to turn a profit under Monson.

Have to agree with FOT ZTA - SU or STFU. Which ever you prefer.
 

Gophers go from 9 - 20 to 20 - 14 and then 20 - 9 ( so far ) looking good for an NCAA berth. I don't believe the sky high goals will be reached with the talent leftover on the roster from the former regime. Not a bash on those players. Tubby's getting, I'm sure, as much as they have to offer talentwise. I expect that Tubby's making money for the University the same as Boeheim with Syracuse though probably not quite as much.

With attendance, I wonder if the basketball program was able to turn a profit under Monson.

Have to agree with FOT ZTA - SU or STFU. Which ever you prefer.

Such language Blizzard, er ? Wonder where Oh pee 1169 has been? Or one of the other little fellows....

BTW - I am sure SNOWMAN the MODERATOR will rebuke your use of such language on the pure and holy hole.

Now, why is it that so many folks on the hole have such a tough time with high expectations?

The tubster is getting a bit of a free pass from some folks here on the hole.

Just win baby. Results.
 

Now, why is it that so many folks on the hole have such a tough time with high expectations?

I'm just not sure what your deal is with Tubby. Others have asked but you haven't answered - what issues do you have with Tubby as a coach ?

And I'm not sure that I would say others don't have high expectations as seen in the mini meltdowns that have occured here after losses.
 

I'm just not sure what your deal is with Tubby. Others have asked but you haven't answered - what issues do you have with Tubby as a coach ?

And I'm not sure that I would say others don't have high expectations as seen in the mini meltdowns that have occured here after losses.

TruthTeller March 10, 11:11 AM:

"Right. That is why any post that isnt complimentary of the coach or coaching decisions is summarily blasted.

I have no issues with the coach, reserve.

Results are all that matters. Lots and lots of wins against top competition, Big 10 and NCAA titles.

Results."

Cant read due to the Blizzard? Or choose not to?

Win, and win big Blizzard.

Results.
 

Cant read due to the Blizzard? Or choose not to?

Win, and win big Blizzard.

Results.

Have we not seen results since Tubby took over ?

From 9 to 20 to 20 plus and a likely NCAA bid.

In the short amount of time that Tubby's had here what were you expecting as far as results go ?

Don't let the Truth be telling.
 

Have we not seen results since Tubby took over ?

From 9 to 20 to 20 plus and a likely NCAA bid.

In the short amount of time that Tubby's had here what were you expecting as far as results go ?

Don't let the Truth be telling.

An offense that functions well, for starters. Winning big for another.
 

Ah. Okay. Truth Teller expected that Tubby would take a team that was 9-20 and have them winning the Big 10 in two years. That's why TT is so salty right now. Now, there are two possibilities. Either TT is really just looking to stir the pot, and is criticizing the coach to spark angry responses, or he actually expected a Big 10 title in two years, and thus, is a stark, raving lunatic, and is a danger to himself and others. My money's on the former, but who knows?
 

Ah. Okay. Truth Teller expected that Tubby would take a team that was 9-20 and have them winning the Big 10 in two years. That's why TT is so salty right now. Now, there are two possibilities. Either TT is really just looking to stir the pot, and is criticizing the coach to spark angry responses, or he actually expected a Big 10 title in two years, and thus, is a stark, raving lunatic, and is a danger to himself and others. My money's on the former, but who knows?

Not salty, jmag.

But why dont you talk about the putrid offense?
 

I think most of our offensive problems stem from inexperience. Our biggest struggles offensively have been on the road, where inexperienced teams often struggle to make shots, especially without proven playmakers who can make their own shots. At home, when we're hitting our outside shots, our offense has actually looked quite competent, especially for a team whose best offensive options from last year have either taken huge steps back or have remained wildly inconsistent.
 

But why dont you talk about the putrid offense?

Really ZTA I believe the onus is on you to talk about the " putrid " offense. So far the Gophers are averaging about six points less per game than last year. I believe losing three seniors, that accounted for somewhere above 50 percent of our scoring last year may have something to do with it. Without capable players to replace them and having freshman forced into those starting roles again I would ask what were expecting from our offense this year and why has that failed your expectations and so also would be winning big. We're you expecting a B10 Title or a deep run in the NCAA tournament this year ?
 

Really ZTA I believe the onus is on you to talk about the " putrid " offense. So far the Gophers are averaging about six points less per game than last year. I believe losing three seniors, that accounted for somewhere above 50 percent of our scoring last year may have something to do with it. Without capable players to replace them and having freshman forced into those starting roles again I would ask what were expecting from our offense this year and why has that failed your expectations and so also would be winning big. We're you expecting a B10 Title or a deep run in the NCAA tournament this year ?

Excuses anyone!

Every year oh pee. Dont you? After all, that is the goal. Every year.
 

TT..there is a difference between high expectations and unreasonable expectations. We have high expectations, you have unreasonable expectations. Look at yourself, do you have high expectations for yourself, or unreasonable expectations for yourself. Setting and achieving goals is great, but the goals have to be achievable, not unreasonable. I lived my life that way, and am now retired and can look back at several situations of my life and say..."I did it".
 

Try to reason with some people .. honestly. Lol ..

HAVE A NICE DAY ZTA .. AND BY THE WAY GFY !
 




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